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QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 07:16 PM) Lots of kids grow up with f***ed up families... but not a lot of kids grow up with all the money they will have. I don't feel sorry one bit. I said most sorry, so out of Elin, Tiger, and the kids, the only ones with a shred of sympathy from me are the kids.

Boo.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 05:26 PM) When you factor in defense (he's throw out 52% of attempted base stealers this year), there hasn't been a better all-around catcher in baseball. I must now find my Miguel Olivo signed hat.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 04:23 PM) If a team is fully under the cap to the point that they can afford Bosh's contract, can't the team deal Bosh straight up for a draft pick and just absorb the cap hit? Toronto doesn't have to take salary back. I don't think the Raptors have room without Bird Rights and they would want SOMETHING in return.

QUOTE (kev211 @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 04:17 PM) It's not their options though they don't decide Chris Bosh does and they take what they can get from where he wants to go. Well no, those are the options if Bosh wants max money.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 02:49 PM) Viciedo 2 days in a row?!?! Rejoice! Holy ****! QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 02:51 PM) He'll go 0-4 against Grienke and Ozzie will never play him again. Or, he'll go 4-4 with 4 HR and 16 RBI's. QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 04:09 PM) I want Jones to DH while using Lillibridge as his bat.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 03:51 PM) Brendan Haywood. Though I really don't see how Toronto has the leverage to demand anything, their options are basically take whatever they can get or let him walk. Their options really become: Lakers -Bynum Heat - Beasley, Chalmers, Anthony Knicks - Eddy Curry (ahahahahahahaha) Bulls - Deng, Taj Throw in picks where needed.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 01:25 PM) I think he still wrote for BP when that deal was made. I know Gord Ash was their GM at the time, and I think Law was hired by Riccardi. Law was hired by Riccardi. And Ozzie Ball, yes, our system sucks. Daniel Hudson does not. Remember Klaw's quote about Hudson? http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/...sider-keith-law That shows me he failed to do any research whatsoever. Hudson dominated at all 4 stops and was OK last year when he was up here. He then says "Unless he stunk." That shows he didn't even follow Hudson and was unsure if he was good or bad. In other chats he said he expected the Hudson hate, so it just kinda shows that he hates the Sox or that he just didn't feel like including the MiLB Pitcher of the Year on his 100 Prospects

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 03:42 PM) Tiger's divorce is about to be official. Elin Nordegren gets $750 million dollars, sole physical custody of the kids, but she can never come out in public and talk about Tiger's flings when they were married. Tiger has to keep all girlfriends away from the kids, can only bring them around if they get married. WOW, $750 million f***ing dollars! http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/...-woods-divorce/ While she has every right to get that $750M, it makes me think less of her. Yes, the cheating was horrible for Tiger to do, but how much better a person is she to have chased him with a club and try to get as much as possible? I feel most sorry for the kids in this instance.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 03:25 PM) Just to add fuel to the horrible rumors fire... Reina If Chris Bosh wants his six-year max contract, it looks like Bryan Colangelo wants Joakim Noah or David Lee in return. Not taking Beasley. If by "Joakim Noah" he means "Luol Deng and Taj Gibson", sure.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 03:09 PM) Well it was soxnet, but close. I'm stunned with Mike though as I thought Jason would (and should) have the biggest beef with him along with Mario. My favorite is that he apparently still reads SoxNet, because remember when we thought Hudson would fill in for Peavy? JC was all over dismissing that.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 02:53 PM) 45 hits in a row, that'd be a record or somethin 12 hits is the current record, belonging to Walt Dropo.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 02:25 PM) If that is the same friend who didn't want LeBron to begin with, then he should be taken to an alley and be beaten up heavily. That was my brother. He for some reason still wants Wade + Amare.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5342894 Rob Kurz and Chris Richard have joined the vaunted FA class.

Pods was awesome, demanded too much money after coming back last year, is a crappy base runner and fielder, but a good hitter.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 01:52 PM) It would be a challenge to win playoff series against good teams. Winning 60-65 games should happen somewhat easily though. Agreeing with this. Especially on long rest like the playoffs have, teams like the Lakers, Thunder, and (this years) Celtics could take them, just because they would have 2 massive holes at point guard and center. My friend just sent me a text about Melo, saying he wants the Bulls to trade Deng/Taj/JJ/Picks for Melo, then sign LeBron to form some sort of crazy super team.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 10:03 AM) Williams - 22 inherited runners, 13 have scored - 59% IS% Politte - 11 inherited runners, 3 scored - 27% IS% If you add Williams' 13 that were inherited to his total runs and earn runs scored, it jumps to 29 runs and 27 runs respectively allowed in 25 innings. With Politte, his jumps to 33 and 32 respectively... thus, Williams' IS+RS average is 10.44, and his IS+ER average is 9.72 Politte's IS+RS average is 9.90 and his IS+ER average is 9.6 Kalapse may argue that Williams is worse, because it is a relievers job to get out of a jam because Politte still did a better job of it than Williams. I'd argue that he received half of the inherited runners that Williams did, and thus, with his peripherals, he would have been far more likely to allow more than 3 runners to score on his next 11 inherited. I'd also say that, independently, Politte was a far worse reliever than Williams, simply due to the tendency of Politte to come into a bases empty situation and allow runs to score, whereas with Williams, it's far more likely for him to come in with runners already on base and then allow them to score. In the end, we'd be arguing a relatively moot point. The fact of the matter is, the White Sox have had two of the worst relievers in probably the past 25 or so years within 5 years of each other. That is sad. However, only one of these guys was actually given his job in the bullpen, rather than earned. Williams had no business being on this roster to begin with, which makes his statistics all the more tragic. quick edit: Politte's WPA in 2006 was -1. Williams's WPA this year is -0.5. This has a bit to do with Politte pitching later in close games, opposed to Williams pitching earlier in blowouts, but that could really be all the more reason Politte is worse. Man, B-R has gotten completely f***ing awesome in the past year or two. Agreed on all points. My one ever gripe with B-R was lack of uniform numbers, then they add that.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 10:25 AM) Per Dan Lebatard Twitter: I am now a tad concerned. Dan LeBatard is an idiot most of the time, but that is a tad bit concerning. Also, if thats the deal, unless LeBron/Bosh/Wade are going to play 48 minutes a game, they are screwed. However, if Bosh is truly going to Miami...go hard after Dirk (not to a max obviously), perhaps bring Salmons back as SG, and use that to entice LeBron.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 09:01 AM) This thread is like cocaine. Also, posted this in the NBA thread: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Ca...?urn=nba,252494 Landscape changes dramatically in FA if that happens.

The Kalapse Forumla: http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/shareit/yB88b Politte, 11 inherited runs http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=3799 Randy, 20 inherited http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=6122

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 09:31 AM) The crazy thing was that Williams actually made 3 acquisitions to help that bullpen out, and all 3 were varying levels of adequate (Riske), good (Thornton), and great (MacDougal), and it was still just terrible. Jenks blew up in July and September of that year, the league finally realized that Neal Cotts only had 1 pitch, Cliff Politte had a worse season than Randy Williams is having now, Brandon McCarthy was not a middle reliever, Boone Logan was certainly not ready to be a relief pitcher for the Sox...it was ugly all-around. In 2005, 4 White Sox starters finished with an ERA below 4.00 (and Freddy was the highest at 3.87)...in 2006, no White Sox starter had an ERA below 4.25, and Contreras was the best at 4.27 (and in his final 22 starts, he posted a 5.32 ERA). The magic had definitely worn off. In Kalapse's "Holy S***, Randy Williams is the 6th Worst Reliever of All Time" formula, Politte was 20th. That just made me think of how incredibly bad Randy is, and he gets the nod because unlike Kotsay, he doesn't grind into double plays and isn't the most complete player on the team.

QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Jun 30, 2010 -> 09:06 AM) Wow this is moronic. In a mock draft you try to predict where the players will go, not where you would take them. For some reason, I always thought he adored Sale, yet couldn't find things after the draft, and I thought he fell to 47 on Klaw's board only once the Sox drafted him. Just found that's not true, so yes, that was moronic.

Trout is tearing up A ball, low A ball at that. While it's impressive, Jeremy Reed and Brandon Allen have been impressive in the minors at higher levels. Lets hold off the superstardom tag. He's probably 2-3 years away minimum. Mitchell looked like he would be with the Sox next year until his injury. Keith Law is a piece of ****, he adored Chris Sale coming into the draft (he had him going 4th overall) and the second the Sox drafted him, he suddenly had horrible mechanics and was a horrible prospect.

Nuggets could trade Melo http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Ca...?urn=nba,252494 Poor Knicks, they wouldn't have the ammo over say, the Nets, to trade for Melo.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 12:31 AM) I'd be willing to split costs. However, I'm thinking they'd want one, if not both, of Hudson and Flowers. If Huddy gets traded, Sale is the fifth starter next year. Also, I'd offer this: Hudson/Flowers + Morel + Torres