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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 14, 2009 -> 07:15 AM) Why would Carlos Torres have value? He is 27 years old, occassionally has a very hard time throwing strikes, doesn't throw very hard, and has a MLB ERA over 6.00. He could be used as filler in a trade, but no team would give you anything worthwhile, especially when it really isn't a salary dump with Mr. Torres being the main prize coming back. I sell that AAA Perfect game to death. Oh, also, I hire Robbie Gould as Alex Rios' personal motivator. And by that, I mean, every time Rios K's with people on, he gets a swift kick to the...you can finish that.

If I'm Kenny I call up Jed Hoyer and offer Flowers/Hudson/Viciedo/Retherford/Link for AGon, as a base. Then I add to the trade by throwing in Torres/PTBNL (Mitchell, when we can) for Bell. Finally, I toss in Hynick for Poreda (think Gio Gonzalez, where we reacquire a prospect). Then I resign Pods for left field. Sign Olivo for backup catcher. Lineup: LF - Pods SS - Ramirez 2B - Beckham 1B - Gonzalez RF - Quentin DH - Konerko C - AJ CF - Rios 3B - Teahen That lineup has really good potential if people can just get over last years issues. Rotation stays the same (Buehrle, Peavy, Danks, Floyd, Garcia) Bullpen looks like: CL - Jenks SU - Bell SU - Thornton MR - Linebrink MR - Nunez LR/MR - Poreda LR - Carrasco Bench: 1B/OF - Kotsay OF - De Aza C - Olivo 2B/SS/3B - Nix

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 09:36 PM) We are in a very good spot IMO on Dotel. Worst or Best (different view for some posters) case scenario, he accepts and he's another good veteran arm in the pen. Or.. he can decline it and we'd have a sup. pick comming to us. IMO personally... it's a win-win. The spect lover in me though hopes he declines, but I could definitely see Dotel accepting if he really likes the guys and the overall team here. I still like Dotel with us in the pen alot. You sir, summed up my feelings on Dotel.

At least Nunez looks to be shaping up well. We'll miss you Betemit. You warmed up Slayers number for us.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Nov 12, 2009 -> 10:34 PM) Then again I wonder why the Padres would give up someone like that. Fill a ton of holes with their biggest chip. They could fill possibly five holes in their big league club.

My one untouchable prospect is D2, solely for dumping Boras and his brother, and cause he'll be good. If I can throw in Mitchell as a PTBNL, I do it. 4-5 prospects is what I offer. 6 if they toss in Poreda. 7-8 prospects if they throw in Bell and Poreda.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 12, 2009 -> 12:09 AM) A showdown? lol. I'll be surprised if we don't lose by at least 15. A showdown would be the Spurs and Lakers. Dbaho, why did Dwight Howard only take 3 shots last night? We beat the Spurs, thus, a showdown. In my mind at least.

Definitely crapped that game away, though we have 2 games coming up against Sac and Philly that we should win before a showdown with the Lakers.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 11, 2009 -> 10:49 PM) Hynick??? Counting on him for anything but garbage innnings in the majors would be crazy at this point. Wouldn't expect him to carry a major load in the majors, but instead be a spot-starter and last BP resort.

QUOTE (Markbilliards @ Nov 11, 2009 -> 10:28 PM) If the Sox were at the point where they were allowed to be offering Mitchell and they also gave up the other five guys you named, there will be no other deal out there that would come close to that. However that's too much for Kenny in my opinion. If we could, I'd ask for Poreda back (See: Gonzalez, Gio) to help with the lefty situation in the pen. Plus, then we'd have: Poreda Hynick D2 Phegley While the farm would take a huge blow, those four could help it recover.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 11, 2009 -> 10:25 PM) IIRC you can't PTBNL Mitchell until Mid-December at the earliest. Dang it. For some reason, I feel he's more enticing then D2, and that they'd love him. Darn this no trading picks till one year later thing.

So lets say it becomes a Sox Duel, the White variety could offer: Hudson Torres Flowers Viciedo Retherford PTBNL (Mitchell) The Pads fill their holes at 2nd, Catcher, 2 pitching spots, a first basemen (fill AGon void), and CF. The reason Mitchell is PTBNL is because I really, really, don't want to give up D2. Red could offer: Bucholz Bard and I have no idea who else is in there system

QUOTE (buckweaver @ Nov 11, 2009 -> 05:09 PM) A brush with Granderson story to share: When he was a AAA player in the Detroit system, he was an instructor for a kids' winter baseball camp in Libertyville; my son attended. Not only was he a terrific teacher, but a great role model. He wore his Tigers uniform, stayed late to talk with the kids and signed autographs for all who asked. We've continued to follow his career since then and have delighted in his success (except against the Sox). I don't see how the Sox could pull of a deal for him, but what an addition he'd be. I just found out recently my brother played on the same field as him in HS, since Granderson's high school is in the same conference as mine. That aside, I'd love to get Granderson.

Noah being left off the All-Star ballot is kinda ridiculous. Anyway, heres an ESPN sponsored blog about why Noah is the 3rd best center in the NBA so far this year. http://bullsbythehorns.com/?p=1324

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 11, 2009 -> 09:41 AM) "s*** storm" to me is them making a big deal out of it because it was such an obvious mistake. The majority of their coverage had to do with the Cavs losing a 2nd game at home 2 weeks into the season (when it took them the entire season to lose 2 last year), not what an awful call it was. I just remember interviews about why he felt cheated on the call, Mike Brown saying the rules need to be re-read, etc. Hence, if he made THAT shot and it was overturned, media goes crazy. Also, the rules state it to be .1 seconds left for there to be no shot, we had triple the time.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Nov 11, 2009 -> 12:29 AM) Tough break for the Bulls tonight, I wonder if it was more a superstar player than Brad Miller if they would have gotten the call then. God knows if it was LeBron, there'd probably be a whole ESPN Sportscenter newshour dedicated to it or something. I imagine LeBron not getting the call and the epic ****storm that would result.

My friend and are arguing over this, since he said that we'd have no arms left in the system, and then he proposed this: Try to get Poreda as a throw in in the deal, since he didn't uber-suck here. I don't think Pads would do it, but who knows?

Worst. Call. Ever.

Ok, I missed the party But I'll just break it down: Halladay is a pipe dream, but that'd be one hell of an interesting rotation. Seriously, when you have five all-star caliber pitchers on a staff, that's crazy. So crazy it won't happen. Gonzalez I jump at any chance I get that doesn't take anyone off the 25 man roster (other than Nix and some BP guys) or Danks. I'd have him and Paulie platoon the DH and 1B spots. Kenny having this much faith in D2 is interesting, I honestly won't be shocked if D2 was our starting CF or RF. I'd like to see otherwise, but if that happens, I pray he pulls a Gordon. Don't know about Vlad, I like him, but he's old and past his prime, and it defeats the "young, fast, athletic" mentality. However, I think the best thing to happen would Jerry getting whacked out on some drug and giving us a payroll to match the Yankees, allowing us to buy Halladay, Gonzalez, Crawford. No team would ever match that ferocity. Or it's unlikeliness.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Nov 8, 2009 -> 07:54 PM) I wouldn't oppose a guy like Hideki Matsui being our DH. The dude is pretty clutch and they could play this song when he comes up to bat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6rDWqjnW7w I wouldn't mind that, since Matsui is good and that's great batting music. Then again, Lillibridge had far-and-away the best batting music, so...

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Nov 8, 2009 -> 05:48 PM) Hell of a long shot regardless.. but just to have everyone's pants creamed alittle.. From Vercey and the NY Post. I'd much rather have Wade. My brother and I talked about this, and how passing His Airness' statue would do the following to people: Kobe: Push him to accept the challenge Wade: Find in an honor LeBron: Be pressured and eventually whine about it. Also, small annoyance, you play a 3 forward rotation then, since Deng is untradeable (if he plays bad, he'd get shopped, if he plays well, they'll keep him and let Salmons walk).

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 8, 2009 -> 03:14 PM) Are you saing Kenny "The Titan of Awesomeness" Williams JR is a bit too soon?" It's already his dads nickname.

QUOTE (The Baconator @ Nov 8, 2009 -> 01:45 AM) Agreed. D2 is good, and I'm also a fan of the classic 'Jordie' I'm gonna agree here, D2 is probably the best nickname.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Nov 7, 2009 -> 09:36 PM) My god, I love Joakim Noah. I wanted him on the Bulls the first time I saw him in College. I do not regret wanting him.

Sox prospect wins the Cross City AFL League Prospect Classic. Also, D2 needs a new number since Quentin's got 20. I say he should get 52, since its 50 + 2