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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 22, 2009 -> 12:55 AM) I'm seriously going to snap the next time somebody suggests we add starting pitching. Especially extremely expensive starting pitching (and when I say expensive I mean in both money and players). We're absolutely set with the starting rotation for the next 3-5 years, at least. Eh, I just know that Kenny inquired about Haren when Peavy said no initially and quite frankly, a bunch of the players the D-Backs sent to Oakland were from us, so it's like "We had the ammo for that?" As long as there's a Dan H. in the rotation I'll be fine. QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Sep 22, 2009 -> 01:44 AM) Agreed. And we shouldn't be expecting the Sox to fill the 5th starter spot with anyone besides players like: Freddy Garcia, Daniel Hudson, Carlos Torres, John Ely, erc etc etc. If the Sox goes outside the organization for a starting pitcher for the 5th starter role, then it'll be a lower-tier starting pitcher among the likes of Doug Davis, Paul Byrd, Carlos Silva, Russ Ortiz, Vincente Padilla, etc etc etc,... you know, scrubby guys like that. I want to see that just for the sheer fact that AJ would snap.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 21, 2009 -> 10:17 PM) Cross the top three off of your list right away. We aren't trading for expensive starting pitchers, nor are we trading for middle of the line up plodders. Crawford and Figgins are the only guys on that list that make sense. Eh, I always thought if someone was on the market, Kenny would inquire, but never snag them. Peavy changed my opinion on that, and he reportedly tried to get Haren a few times. Also, I just realized why Kenny's restaurant is called market. QUOTE (son of a rude @ Sep 21, 2009 -> 11:07 PM) Halladay would be amazing since he is damn good and is one of the best LF'ers defensively, buttttttttttttt he is a boras client... I want to see Holliday and Halladay on the same team, it would be pure confusion hilarity.

QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Sep 21, 2009 -> 09:43 PM) ^^^^Wow that is some optimism to be going after any of those three, trade those players. It will be a fun off season as always and looking forward to all the discussion. I think Link had a terrible year and that is why I think he is going to be unprotected, but with that, I'm not sure what players we have to move to the 40 man to protect. With Kenny, I'd expect anything. Seriously, it wouldn't shock me at all if any of these players are here next year: Halladay Haren Fielder Crawford Bay Holliday Figgins (most likely)

Ugh, Hawk is mad how Walker works with the players before every road game and they just seem to forget it come game time.

If Kenny pulls off a block buster Hudson or Flowers will headline it. For an elite pitcher (Haren, Halladay), Hudson's the headliner. For a bat (Crawford) it'll be Flowers. If its someone like Fielder, both are gone.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Sep 20, 2009 -> 11:49 PM) Some might say you're a dreamer, Tommy. But you're not the only one. I'm with you. Everything's important till the math no longer works in our favor. Till then dream way. Over the next six games, Hudson, Danks, Buehrle, Peavy, Freddy, and Floyd will retire every batter they face. And I will go

QUOTE (SockMe @ Sep 20, 2009 -> 10:50 PM) I was sitting on the Royals side, black t-shirt, holding the Stone Pony poster, anyone? I saw you...

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 20, 2009 -> 09:12 PM) Carrasco also pitched two days ago, so he was out anyway. I wonder how far into the game they let Hudson go? All 27 batters.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 20, 2009 -> 06:36 PM) I'd rather have rios. I'd turn around and trade Zambrano for someone else, because someone would take him in this crazy sports world.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 20, 2009 -> 05:44 PM) Oh Jesus God no. Unless we know that Peavy's arm is about to fall off, that's ludicrous. I'd trade Rios for Zambrano and Cotts (to get him out of that hell hole). That's it though.

Buehrle should remain the #1. Because the only thing that means is that he starts Opening Day, because as Ozzie has stated in the past, they want 5 #1's. But Buehrle deserves that Opening Day start, not Peavy, Floyd or Danks.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 19, 2009 -> 10:20 PM) Now, according to Ozzie, next year they plan on making him a #3 or #4 starter. What.

Was my first favorite rookie...met him at Grandstand once. And now he's gone and is getting vengeance for it becoming Gordon.

3 K's...nice. Edit: Cancel the post game show.

QUOTE (League @ Sep 19, 2009 -> 06:13 PM) Poor kid, making your debut against Peavy in a game like this must be a drag. Eh, it's his first start, but he has pitched in the Bigs before.

Well, that was a pleasant first inning to say the least.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 19, 2009 -> 03:53 PM) And Buerhle has pitched as much as anyone in his era. Why is he all of a sudden so fragile? Exactly, how many games has Buehrle missed in his career? One, and that was so Loazia could have a chance to win #20. And when Buehrle pitches on 3 days rest, he's stellar, so I'm gonna agree with DA that Buehrle is in no trouble of injury.

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Sep 17, 2009 -> 05:26 PM) Why? It lowers the bar and his speech wouldn't be anything special. How does it lower the bar? The guy is 37th all time hit leader and has the most RBI's of any player not inducted into the HoF but is eligible.

So, all this Prince Fielder talk that I'm not sure if ESPN just made it up to start Fielder to Red Sox rumors has made me wonder... ...would the Sox have enough bait to trade for Fielder? Going into 2010, their CF (Cameron), 2B (Lopez), and C (Kendall) are FA's, and if the trade happened, they'd need a 1B. And of course... We all know the Brewers would ask for starting pitching, so there goes Hudson and Torres, and you'd probably have to include 1 of Charlie Shirek, Jack Egbert (if anyone would want him), and Lucas Harrell. That's the given. So that means you'd have to give up a CF; That means you could give them Shelby, D2, Mitchell or Rios. Rios - You'd have to eat salary, and plenty of it. It might not be worth it, or it could be worth it, but you're eating a lot of salary for them to take The Albatrios. Shelby - Brewers might have interest in him, and if they did, include him. Danks - I'd try to avoid biting on including D2, because his being shipped could affect Danks resigning. Mitchell - Are we even allowed to include him? I know you can't trade a player until a year after they're drafted, but could he be on the 40 Man roster and be shipped or could he be a player to be named later? Now, for the 2B, you have three guys you could give them; Nix, Retherford, and Lillibridge. Nix - Has shown he could be a good ML 2B so you might have to bite on trading him Retherford - Is no slouch either and according to FutureSox he's kind of like Nix, so you'd probably have to give up Nix. Lillibridge - He might be thrown in with Nix or Retherford, but he's not going over one of those two. As for catcher, you have really two options, and only one reasonable one. Flowers and (maybe) Phegley. Flowers - At least this would mean we'd essentially turn Chris Young, El Duque, Luis Vizcaino, Javier Vazquez, and Boone Logan into Fielder. I could live with this, because AJ is about as durable as they come and is still going strong. And now throws out runners to boot. Phegley - See Mitchell. Now, that leaves one more hole, first basemen. And that leaves two guys. Viciedo and Flowers. Flowers - You might just get off including him as a 1B and C. If he's included though, you're not giving up Phegley. Viciedo - Would it be worth it? We might shut down our Cuban Connection, but Viciedo makes a lot to not be on our big league roster, this one wouldn't take as much thinking as the others. So that means a 7 for 1 of: Fielder for: Hudson, Torres, Shirek/Egbert/Harrel, Rios/Shelby/D2/Mitchell, Nix/Retherford/+Lillibridge, Flowers/Phegley, Viciedo/Flowers (Phegley not included). How would we coup our losses? We'd lose Hudson and Torres, so essentially our #5 starter for 2011. Who knows? Maybe Freddy has a resurgance and he's 33, so not incredibly old and a decent Freddy Garcia is fine behind a Buehrle/Peavy/Danks/Floyd 4-headed Monster. We lose a minor league pitcher who could be a #5 one day or a BP arm, not hard at all to recover. We lose a centerfielder, but we have plenty of depth to recover from losing one of those. We lose a utility player and Lillibridge, but which ever one we keep between Nix and Retherford can take that spot, and Lillibridge is...Lillibridge. We lose a catcher and we keep the other. We don't need one to be ready next year, since we still have AJ for a couple years. We lose Viciedo, but gain Fielder, so we lose nothing. What do we get? A lefty power bat that could DH or spell Paulie at 1B and a a guy that could help us for years to come. And that was a big write, I was apparently bored.

This is bad. Cause now he can eat Alexei and not face disciplinary issues.

Found this today, and it explains Pods' defensive woes. http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/48439/GET+DOWN+FOOL/ He's afraid of getting punched in the face obviously.

Kenny needs one.

Figured you guys might like these. Good job Mark, good job. What?! Kotsay doesn't want attention. His wife does.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 13, 2009 -> 12:12 AM) Don't miss out on this gem: Guillen on his hitters failing to beat pitchers they have seen for the first time - "I mean you're not going to take anything away from the pitching staffs that we've faced, but we've been facing some pitchers this year it's like, 'Who the [expletive] is this guy? They don't even belong in the [bleeping] big leagues and they just kicked our ass.' I'm not going to lie to anybody. I know who beat us and I know who should beat us. We've faced some guys where they've called him up, faced us, and get him back to [bleeping] Double A, get the [bleep] out of here. That's how bad we've been." http://blogs.suntimes.com/whitesox/2009/09/oz_being_oz.html Awesome stuff, Oz. Heh, at least Oz is honest .

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