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QUOTE (Reddy @ Feb 6, 2010 -> 12:18 PM) it does capture one's attention... Well, it's a large signature. That's what they do.

QUOTE (Mattchoo @ Feb 6, 2010 -> 06:53 AM) In my opinion, you do everything and anything that doesn't include Hudson. Dan Hudson looks like a core player for future Sox to me I feel there could be possibilities using Alexei or Floyd as the center piece. Some of the scenarios I'm seeing above don't make sense to me. How often are there 5 for 1, or 6 for 1, swaps in MLB trades. I mentioned this trade a long time ago, but how about Floyd, Flowers, Mitchell or D2, Morel, and one other prospect for Gonzo and Young. Going from memory that saves the Padres like 7M this year. Floyd>>>>>>>>>>Young Trading Alexei or Floyd to be able to hold on to Hudson is not a way to build. Both are a lot more essential to the core of the Sox. QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Feb 6, 2010 -> 12:30 PM) Today on White Sox weekly, Mike Gonzalez mentioned that A-Gon will likely be dealt, its only a matter of time. The team with the best chance to get him are the Red Sox. Jed Hoyer was the former Assistant GM for the Red Sox and has a great relationship w/ Epstien. With the Red Sox deep farm- and Hoyer's knowledge of all of those prospects, it would be really hard to match up with them. My one hope is that Hoyer asks for prospects he knows are really good, and Epstein might bite.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Feb 6, 2010 -> 05:06 AM) Would you do that deal? Konerko, with most of his salary paid, J. Danks, Flowers and Hudson for 2 years of A. Gonzalez seems a little steep, but I think I'd be satisfied even with that, especially if Gonzalez could be signed to a long term deal. However, I doubt the Sox would spend the money needed to get him to stay. The problem is the Padres wouldn't want Konerko. They'd want something along the lines of Flowers, Hudson, [A], , [C] [A] Pick 1: Mitchell (as a PTBNL), D2 Pick 1: Morel, Viciedo, Retherford [C] Pick 1/2/3*: Shirek, Hynick, Torres, Nunez, Marrero, Shelby, Gartrell, Santos, Gilmore, etc. * If Mitchell and Morel/Viciedo is taken, pick 1. * If Mitchell-Retherford or Morel/Viciedo-D2, pick 2. * If D2-Retherford, pick 3. Ideally, I'd send them Hudson, Flowers, Morel, Viciedo, Torres, Shelby, and Gartrell. Yes, you lose Hudson, whom can't be replaced in the system. However, you'd only need a fifth starter, and Marquez (if healthy) or Hynick could fill in that role if Freddy goes down. Flowers is gone, but AJ's got I'd say 4-5 years left in the tank, and Phegley could very well replace Flowers. Both Morel and Viciedo departing hurts, but it'd let you hold on to D2 and Mitchell, which I like. because, I know it shouldn't effect it, but keeping D2 could help keep D1 around long term. And keeping Mitchell is perfect. Also, Retherford (I think) played a bit of 3rd, so he could fill in in a pinch. The other three, Torres, Shelby, and Gartrell can be replaced. However, tossing in all three could help entice the Padres.

I kinda want to see how a pitcher would do, since he's standing roughly the same distance.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Feb 6, 2010 -> 04:02 AM) Thanks fellas for the clarification. Well, wouldn't it be worth it to pay almost all of Konerko's salary for 2010 if the Sox could get Gonzalez without having to give up too many prospects. If they could keep Hudson and Flowers, I'd be in favor of giving the Padres Paulie with as much of his contract paid for as they need to make it work for them. Then give them J. Danks and whatever other prospect they'd want, not including Flowers or Hudson. The deal would require Flowers and Hudson. Giving them Paulie, and paying even $10M of his contract would basically make it so instead of Flowers-Hudson-Viciedo-D2-Other it'd be Flowers-Hudson-Paulie-Other. Essentially, to get Gonzalez, you give up the top of our system (aside from Mitchell or D2, as only one would go)

QUOTE (knightni @ Feb 6, 2010 -> 03:34 AM) He had the perfect reaction after it went in, just standing there.

Other thoughts from the loss: Man, I miss Joakim. Also, the Bulls signed Chris Richard for 10 days as a stop gap. Since he's in town, anyone know if we could afford another minimum salary? Byars would be nice for 3 point shooting. Edit: Wow, just checked BG's 3pt%. Salmons is worlds better than him this year.

So, is anyone else amped for Fallout: New Vegas after seeing the trailer?

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 6, 2010 -> 12:34 AM) Derrick Rose made me jump like a little kid with that massive one handed dunk against the Hawks... too bad that was the only play and thing the Bulls did right the entire game. Man if anyone can make a freaking shot, Rose's assist numbers would be as high as Rondos. It's like they use a magnetized ball, and the rim was the same polarity. Also, when you're tired, NBA Games begin to look like NBA Jam

Dear Cubs: Pay for your own damn stadium

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 10:33 PM) It's pretty damn cool seeing all of those guys in their college uniforms. They all look so young and cute! This was what I thought, minus the last sentence.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Feb 5, 2010 -> 07:09 PM) Would the Padres be interested if Konerko could be included with the prospects, especially if the Sox were willing to pay part of his salary? If the Sox paid $6 of the $12 million owed Konerko, that would bring the total cost of A. G. to about $10.75 million for this year, which is still less than they would owe Konerko. That might help entice the Padres, as they would have a replacement at 1B for Gonzalez, which could appease the fans. Konerko would also being staying because not only the reasons as stated above, but he'd become the DH. At least I hope Ozzie has enough respect for Paulie to not put him in a rotating monster.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 5, 2010 -> 05:16 AM) Something tells me he is not going to be interested in being a #2 back. And some team will take him on as their #1 back. At this point in his career, my guess is he isn't a whole lot different than Forte, to be honest. Wouldn't it be something to see him go to those Patriots... Especially after seeing them gloat over him in 06.

LT says he's done as a Charger Well, this is intriguing. Does anyone consider the Bears should consider him as a #2 back? They could use someone to compliment Forte.

QUOTE (knightni @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 04:47 PM) "They're always after me Lucky Charms!" Who's the Unicorn?

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Feb 5, 2010 -> 12:50 AM) At this point, if all it would take is Hudson, Flowers, and Danks we might as well do it. We need the shot in the arm, and as much as i dig the idea of both Danks brothers starting for the team at the same time, i'm far more sentimental about a guy who could pop 50 from the left-side. If all it takes is Hudson, Flowers, and D2, then pull the trigger. I too would love to see the D&D brothers (like the M&M Boys in Minny, and it would allow them to enter to this) but I'd get over it. (Also, Hudson, Flowers and D2 seems very cheap. I'd believe something like Hudson-Flowers-Mitchell-Morel or Hudson-Flowers-Danks-Viciedo would be more likely)

QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 11:59 PM) More fodder on Agon. I know pipe down. Couldn't resist though. http://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/conten...MLB&id=3593 There is a quote from Moored that they will have trade Agon sooner rather than later in the 3rd paragraph down. You never know. Full article with second link here. http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/feb/03/1s3sullivan/ Take that Joe Mauer.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 10:27 PM) After living in eastern Michigan for a few years, it was obvious that the Pistons made the trade just to make a trade. The GM got so fed up with losing in the playoffs that he wanted to break up the core to motivate them, obviously that didnt work too well in hindsight. That logic will forever baffle me. Seriously. Obviously if you're losing in the playoffs, you would want to acquire a big piece. Not a "I Must Start or Nothing" Allen Iverson/

QUOTE (flavum @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 09:28 PM) He can do whatever he wants, but if he quits at 31, takes a year off, and then comes back and pitches for the Cardinals for 4 or 5 years, I'd be a little pissed if he did that. Don't be a Favre. Stop talking about it, but when you do it, stay gone. If he did, I would never wear my Buehrle shirt again as long as he played. And I wear it once a week, so that'd be change.

http://www.sportspickle.com/article:616/10...als-of-all-time My favorite is number 4, because I don't count #1, even though it is a piece of art.

QUOTE (Chi Town Sox @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 09:38 PM) still don't understand Billups for Iverson after they had that long run of being VERY good in the East The only logical explanation is that Joe Dumars is being paid on the side by the Cavs.

Adrian Gonzales, now. Do it Kenny. Stupid Twins, always making moves that are good.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 08:09 AM) Could the Pistons move to Pittsburgh? First words to mind: How the mighty have fallen.

QUOTE (knightni @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 09:02 PM) I voted Ranger, because I remember his (long) debate with Shack being one of the best forum things I've read in a while.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Feb 4, 2010 -> 07:37 PM) I'm at the point where i can seperate myself from the prospect loving side of me. Just get me A-Gone, and let's call it a day. We've got in-house options to replace Danks (Mitchell), and we're focusing on pitching in our next draft anyway. A.J's got a couple more years left in him, and we can always find another catcher elsewhere. A-Gone is just too good to pass up. D2 is the one prospect I'd be sad at giving up for AGon, purely because of his brother. I've always been a fan of brother combos in the majors. That being said, from a baseball stand point, I'd be fine giving up D2 for Gonzalez. However, I could see the amount of players sent being lower if you included Mitchell instead of D2.