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If you told me that Maldonado hits .150 this year, I'd believe you.

Maybe Jacob Gonzalez is one of those dudes that internalizes everything and becomes the best player from the class. I really, really hope.

Summary of everyone's reaction: f*** yeah five Sox prospects with good-to-glowing reviews. But also, why is Montgomery so low? (I understand his explanation, again, summarizing reactions)

What does Tray hate more: Andrew Vaughn or a South Loop stadium?

AKME are truly horrendous at asset management

Chris Getz's mantra has been: Get old, strike gold

Do not like

So Grifol is worthless, because here are all the vet leaders (30+ or will be this year) they've added: - Paul Dejong - Erick Fedde - John Brebbia - Chris Flexen - Martin Maldonado - Max Stassi - Tim Hill Minor league deals - Kevin Pillar - Chad Kuhl - Rafael Ortega - Brett Phillips Obviously they need to fill out Charlotte's roster, so I'm not gonna lose sleep over Ortega and Kuhl, but if Getz thinks that Grifol needs 9 new vet leaders, then fire Grifol instead of spending money that seems harmless in small increments, but begins to add up to an amount that could be used on actual major leaguers - a cardinal sin of the Hahn era.

How many veteran leaders do we need? It feels like the entire team is compromised of veteran leaders at this point. The only way any veteran leadership is imparted is if they start getting jettisoned for young guys.

I forgot Brett Phillips was around until this thread.

It's so interesting to create a team identity of old guys with no offensive upside that rely on their reputations as good defenders.

This is the funniest aspect of it all. Tearing it down to studs for to gain...what? Tim Hill, Martin Maldonado and Chris Flexen?

I was told that with Rick Hahn we were done trying to collect overhyped, failed-in-the-majors prospects like they're infinity stones.

I'm convinced. Can't draft him.

My lord that is a fleece by Elias

Fucking nerds with their stats.

They started off so strong and have since sat on their hands. The Knicks were reportedly offering a good amount of LaVine last year. We know DDR and Caruso had good offers. Vuc - as an expiring - probably could have pulled a second. They should have swallowed their pride, done a big sell off and traded LaVine, DDR and Vuc at minimum and Caruso if the offer was right. Build around the young guys they had and then try to improve in the draft and the sudden new found cap-space. Instead it's just run it back for the 5th time with depreciating assets.

The new stadium would be right around the corner from Manny's, a Binny's and a Portillo's, roughly a 10-15 minute walk. These are all big wins.

That's the buy and sell price. I know there's cost associated with running the team, but think of the annual earnings + influence that come with owning a Big Four sports franchise

Lord, I see what you have done for others

Please god, just let Steve Cohen get wide-eyed

This is the thinking that is what leads people to writing off Coby White, Lauri, Ayo and Wendell Carter early in their careers. You could even argue Jimmy was in that group, but he had a lot more leeway as a roleplayer until he blew up in year four. If you're calling a player a bust after one partial season of minor league ball in their draft year, you shouldn't bother following prospects because you just want instant gratification.

Gonzalez hasn't even played an entire season of minor league ball, so calling him a bust this early would be premature and ridiculous. You can say it was a bad pick because of his profile - slow running shortstop who wasn't hitting for a lot of power in his cup of coffee post draft (which, as James has pointed out, is a grain of salt) and because you had toolsy players like Arjun Nimmala and Enrique Bradfield on the board on the time. But if he comes out the gate roaring to start 2024, suddenly all bust labels are going to start being shed. It's like saying Jake Burger was a bad pick at the time given his profile. You could have definitely said a bust after a few years. But now the bust moniker is silly.

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