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As much as I rib the Padres/Preller, Seidler was basically the anti-Jerry and thus necessary in sports.

Doesn't compute, because as SSHM has outlined, the Sox basically only won when TA was throwing pasta parties.

Greg out here buying wagyu cold cuts and handpicked heirloom pomegranates.

Re: Thompson, I also want to see Bannister get a shot with him. For some reason I have an itching feeling that the Rays could swoop in and suddenly fix all his issues.

I still think Carela gets added. He's got good stats as a young starter — some destitute, White Sox-esque team like the Royals or A's might figure they can make him a reliever for a year. I tried to find defensive grades on him last night and he wasn't in Pipeline's Top 30 for the Cubs or Fangraph's Top 52. Like, maybe if they jettison Sheets?

They just reposted the Astros' Fansided deal Which is Urquidy, Jake Meyers, JP France and "multiple prospects." It's a strange proposal.

Garcia, Patino, Scholtens and Banks all have some decent value for next year's team. I feel like Cronin can stay unless you absolutely need the room.

Good enough for me. I now demand they make this trade.

So, isn't the best scenario for the Bears that Fields comes back and balls out like he did against Denver and Washington? I only ask because it seems like Marvin Harrison Jr. is the guy with the actual generational label in this draft + drafting another offensive lineman feels like it creates a better situation.

Nah man Mon - RemVP Tue - Daryl Boston for hanging on so long Wed - Touki Thu - Also Touki

Anyway, from the Orioles, how unreasonable am I being here? Kjerstad, Bradfield (should have been the Sox pick once Teel was off the board), Povich and Juan Nunez for Cease and any random throw in like Jimmy Lambert.

Reds got Noelvi Marte, Edwin Arroyo, Levi Stoudt, and Andrew Moore

For most teams, but consider Jerry.

Horrifying thought exercise time: Getz keeps Cease till the deadline and try to package Moncada or Eloy with him.

I'm trying to also think of it from the perspective of which teams might try to extend him vs. which would use him as a hired gun for 2 years. Dodgers, Mets and Red Sox would try to extend him. Padres might if they're still trying to contend and have all their money coming off the books. Reds are a toss up. Orioles, nah.

Man, the GM meetings getting cancelled cause of norovirus sure has killed any fun to have until the winter meetings. Instead, we get to speculate how Jerry can hurt us next.

Whatever do you mean???

And the desperation of the 2015-2016 teams led to them trading several minor leaguers that turned into long-term major leaguers, from depth to perennial all-stars.

Live in Brooklyn, so they're super blacked out. They're just the natural choice for a new team for me since I go to Cyclones games, most of my friends here that are baseball fans are Mets fans, and I just couldn't bring myself to be a Yankees fan.

Man I was being sarcastic.

Counterpoint: If Getz's tenure begins with another org taking a Tatis family member and suddenly they go supernova, well...

Jerry is the dude who will spend $200,000 fixing a 2005 Ford Focus instead of just buying a new car.

It's like the Antonio Brown list, which is worth a read. Let's just start from after the World Series. 2006: Gets rid of Frank Thomas. Thomas finishes 4th in MVP voting in 2006. After opening a hole in CF by trading Rowand for Thome, they trade top prospect Chris Young for Javy Vazquez. Brian Anderson is bad. Despite a monstrous offense powered by home runs in 2006, barely miss the playoffs. 2007: Thanks to Kenny gutting the farm system and marquee free agent signings like Darin Erstad, they get old and bad. Kenny's pseudo-rebuild/retool is built around top prospects like Josh Fields, Jerry Owens and Danny Richar. The first round picks are all "safe" guys. Sox miss out on acquiring Miguel Cabrera because Jerry doesn't want to take on Dontrelle Willis' contract. 2008: They get to the playoffs but their MVP candidate breaks his hand cause he was angry and punched a bat. KW Jr. drafted in the 6th round. The Sox trade re-acquired Gio Gonzalez and Ryan Sweeney for Nick Swisher. Dave Wilder scandal Swisher is shipped out after one year because he's toxic as hell. 2009: Ozzie is getting on Ozzieball now. Rios is brought in to replace Dye. Thome is shipped to the Dodgers. Beckham looks like the future at 3rd base, but the Sox decide they need Mark Teahen because even back then, they enjoyed trading with the Royals. Getz and Josh Fields are traded to the Royals. This creates a disastrous butterfly effect. Sox pick Jared Mitchell ahead of Mike Trout cause Jerry hates high school players. 2010: Sox trade Daniel Hudson for Edwin Jackson. Hudson is still pitching. Because of Teahen, Beckham becomes the second basemen. He later talks about how this kinda played with his head. The rotating DH Ozzie and his kids become a distraction. 2011: Adam Dunn Ozzie negotiates with Marlins to leave mid-season 2012: Robin Ventura hired despite no managerial experience. Jerry lets Buehrle leave for a reasonable contract Trade Chris Devenski for Brett Myers Trade Eduardo Escobar for Liriano 2014 and 2013 are just sad, but can be summed up with stuff like Jeff Keppinger and Adrien Nieto 2015: Sox go big! Melky signing Adam LaRoche Trade Semien, Phegley, Bassitt and Ravelo for Samardzija and Ynoa Sign Robertson but that was fine 2016: The death spiral begins Sox trade Montas, Thompson and Micah Johnson for Todd Frazier Fucking Drake LaRoche Trade Tatis (and Erik Johnson) for an imploding James Shields 2017: Trade Sale, Eaton, and Q because they colossally fucked up everything. 2018: Lose a lot, draft Nick Madrigal. Lucas Giolito goes outside the organization because the instruction he's getting sucks. 2019: Lose a lot, draft Vaughn to play first base. Don't sign Machado when they were the only bidder because they tried to toy with him. Don't even try for Bryce. 2020: Have a real shot at Wheeler. Miss. "We have an All-Star catcher. Sign another." Tbh I was fine with Yasmani, but still kinda dumb. Eloy gets hurt cause they never taught him how to play defense. Play Vaughn in left field. Rush Crochet to majors as a reliever. Botch his development. Burger and Sheets seeks development outside the organization. Omar Vizquel scandal #1 breaks. 2021: Hire TLR despite having their pick of the litter. Miss out on Joc because of a small amount of dollars. Omar Vizquel scandal #2 breaks, this one with organizational implications. TLR's nonsense. Leury extension. Rename Loretta's Lounge for no reason. Acquire Craig Kimbrel, use him wrong. Squabble with Giolito in arbitration. And I don't even need to start typing out the past two years. And I missed other moments from the past 18 because I was just going off Baseball Almanac and my memory, but there are organizational things like not spending wisely internationally, home grown players like Flowers and Semien becoming better defenders once leaving the Sox, trading international spending allotment etc. Being a Sox fan is death by a thousand cuts and Jerry is very pennywise/pound foolish. There's a reality where they have a homegrown infield of Semien/Tatis/Anderson/Abreu for the past few years. Don't even need to spend a Madrigal pick! Everything they do is so fucking stupid and self inflicted.

Because Pedro wants Salvy and because of the deep scars of the Tatis trade.