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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 14, 2011 -> 02:09 PM) His contract pays him $25.244 million this year. KG and Pierce were getting nice money too. Doesn't change the fact that Kobe knew this deal was the best they'd get. Him, Ray, and a few other can get masters.

@DarnellMayberry Darnell Mayberry Lots of players were smiling and joking just before the start of the news conference. Kobe Bryant looked pissed.

Stern basically said the season is dead, just not in those words.

Stern sounds like he's ready to go to war by letting the players, Kessler, and Hunter destroy themselves. And they will.

So, how long before half the league goes broke, realizing KG and Pierce led them like sheep to slaughter? Who gets fat? My guess is Beasley.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 14, 2011 -> 01:31 PM) The Union has brought in some heavy legal hitters here. The 2nd name stands out to me. It really seems like the Union wasn't negotiating in good faith. Kessler is they're lawyer, the same man who implied Stern was a plantation owner. Oh and Billy Hunter is the Executive Director of the National Basketball Trade Association. Woop-dee-f***ing-doo.

So, players were denied hard copies of the proposal, not allowed to vote, and the union dropped them immediately post meeting. This has been the NBA vs. the NBAPA vs. The NBA Players They won't win a lawsuit. Also, chances are all contracts get voided. f*** the players union.

SamAmicoFSO Sam Amico NBA union is disbanded immediately. One Western Conference player texts this only: "WTF???" 1 minute ago

The Union denied player reps hard copies of the proposal over the weekend when requested to bring back to non-player reps.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Nov 14, 2011 -> 10:00 AM) They would have to meet in the NFC Championship. Nevermind then.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 13, 2011 -> 04:55 AM) Q, you're in college, why the f*** you on soxtalk right now? Andrew, you back in NY yet? Shack...go Andy Dalton! And those are the people on ST right now. When the f*** was this? I was probably chilling in my dorm lounge with people. Not a big partier. SoxTalk = ultimate downtime site.

So, the US Today leaked the proposal. It doesn't look bad. It's in the players hands and my guess is, they f*** it up.

The Lions can take their new found "success" and f*** themselves with it. I'd love to see a playoff matchup.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 13, 2011 -> 10:04 AM) Wait, you originally cut out the hot chick on purpose? Wanted wite to fill in the blanks and be angrier. And I didn't cut it out, it came like that.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Nov 13, 2011 -> 04:41 PM) I have a paper and a presentation due at 6:00pm today... and I'm on a baseball forum reading about catapults in Middle Earth. Anyone know where I can get some Adderall?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 13, 2011 -> 05:34 PM) There's a decent chance that the Bears will go into Lambeau looking across the way at a 14-0 team. They get a crack at them then. I'd hope to take them down. We're going with a game of running, aggressive defense, and superb special teams. Where does this sound familiar?

"Matheny, 41, doesn't have managerial experience but is no stranger to the game." White Sox are terribly run.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Nov 13, 2011 -> 02:36 PM) Anytime the Miami Marlins hit a home run, this feature will light up in Miami. It's like a Lisa Frank design on meth. Along with the aquarium backstop, that stadium is on Meth. QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 13, 2011 -> 04:32 PM) Let's just cut the s*** and call them the Disney Marlins.

QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ Nov 13, 2011 -> 01:04 PM) UZR really liked De Aza's defense last year. Dude put up a 2.8 fangraphs WAR in 54 games. Sure, a lot of that was BABIP, but that's impressive. Holy f***.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 13, 2011 -> 09:40 AM) Rowand, Russ, Heads, How are you guys not 300 pounds? Fixed.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 13, 2011 -> 03:46 AM) Heads, Russ, you guys are disappointments. Q, get out of this thread, you're like 14, you're not even old enough to read this s***... Damn, you caught me. But drunk Heads may seriously be the greatest thing ever...

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Nov 13, 2011 -> 02:04 AM) I guarantee over 1/8th of the players could get an advanced degree if they wanted to. It's really not all that difficult. Basketball pays way better than a masters degree though. Ok, a little hyperbole. But I'd draw the the line at 1/4. Some players come off as exceedingly dumb.

Fine.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 12, 2011 -> 09:53 PM) So, I have an advanced degree...I'll trade pay statements with him. I'm going to do Mizzou's 4+1 Masters (Get the masters in one extra year of school) and that's just so I can expect to get a not s***ty job as a waiter. Nazr Mohammed can go f*** himself. The league should just win the lockout based off his statements alone. The starting Mizzou SG/SF is in my geology lab. Shown up twice. He's paying less for school then me and he'll get to play in Europe or something (I doubt it, but he's getting his degree, so he should make more than the D-League.)