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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 12:40 AM) 1,288 Where did you go to broadcasting/journalism school again? I hope not Medill. Is it too late to ask for a refund? Kent State. QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 11:49 PM) Can I be Jud Buechler? He looks so ripped in that photo.
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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 11:25 PM) Q has become Jordan and Victory/Marty have become the Cavs and Knicks. Does that make SS2k5 Scottie?
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2011-2012 OFFICIAL NBA LOCKOUT thread
Quin replied to southsider2k5's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 10:41 PM) It'd be nice. I will hunt KG if the NBA cancels games today. Press conference scheduled for after meeting. -
2011-2012 OFFICIAL NBA LOCKOUT thread
Quin replied to southsider2k5's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
NBA labor meeting in hour 14. Please let it happen. -
Pulling for Cards, or it'll be hell down here.
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2011-12 White Sox off season catch all thread
Quin replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:49 PM) Brett Ballantini out at Comcast, dont come here to stir controversy but that's a bit surprising. I want to know why, he was a good beat. -
QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 10:05 PM) Two wrongs don't make a right. Ok, he's Cowley.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:55 PM) qwned. Doubly so because of Qwerty. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:57 PM) And if someone puts me and Dick Allen together, you know they are wrong. Funny but true. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 10:03 PM) And yet, you can still call people out for doing all of the things you have done yourself as a spy. I'm still on the fence on this after rescinding my opinion he was Cowley, now, not so sure.
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QUOTE (qwerty @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:49 PM) Naivety. God I love when qwerty posts. So simple, yet brilliant. Obligatory "post more"
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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:16 PM) Where is that darn ignore button? Click on my profile, then hit "ignore"
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The new Android update is fast.
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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 06:13 PM) It's Kenny's right to have a spy in the clubhouse if he wants. I'd be willing to wager that Chairman Reinsdorf has a few sprinkled throughout the organization too. It's also Kenny's right to let Ozzie quit, which he did, instead of keeping him miserable. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 06:18 PM) Plenty of spies in that clubhouse... They just all had the last name Guillen... Ozzie, Ozzie Jr, Oney, Ozney, and Joe. There's obviously some spies in the clubhouse, since Cowley's sources (See: Guillen Clan) always revealed personal information about Kenny and ex-players.
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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 05:30 PM) I'm making no judgement here. As I said in a previous post, Kenny does have a right to have a spy in the clubhouse, but when things go in a dysfunctional way he has to be held somewhat accountable for it. You're making the judgement that Cooper has low moral character and is a "spy" because of what Scribbles the Journalist (he does rough draft in crayon, according to my sources) and a loud mouth, egotistical, rat have said. QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 05:30 PM) The GM deserves to know WTF is going on with his team too... NO HE DOESN'T QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 05:34 PM) Most GM's ask the manager instead of having a spy run up to their office. QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 05:36 PM) Problem is the spy got a longer contract than the new manager. Who would you give a longer deal? James Bond or M? QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 05:36 PM) Most GM's can trust their manager. Nope, Kenny just has to intuitively know what to do. QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 05:39 PM) Could it be that's because he's really good at his job? Herm should be given a lifetime contract while they're at it. Nah, can't be it. QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 05:45 PM) Seriously, this. The way Ozzie talks about it, it was an open war between himself and KW and he wanted to be sure that KW had no knowledge about his own team. There's an Ozzie defense in there? When snitches and spies, rats and lies are involved, there's a defense for ANYTHING.
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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 03:06 PM) The story is that Guillen and at least some coaches did not trust Cooper. Ok...if "some coaches" are Cora, Cox, and Walker...Cora was going to be with Ozzie wherever he went, Cox is a bad 3B coach, and Walker was terrible as a hitting coach. Maybe they we're jealous. QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 03:09 PM) Coaches that left: Cora, Cox, Walker Coaches that stayed and weren't f***ed over by Coop: 3 Harold Baines First Base Coach 36 Juan Nieves Bullpen Coach 59 Mark Salas Bullpen Catcher Buddy Bell Director of Player Personnel Alex Cosmidis Scout Nick Capra Field Director Daryl Boston Coordinator, Defensive Kirk Champion Coordinator, Pitching Curt Hasler Coordinator, Pitching Jeff Manto Coordinator, Hitting Ron Oester Coordinator, Defensive John Orton Coordinator, Catching Scott Takao Rehab Coordinator Dale Torborg Conditioning Coordinator Manny Trillo Coordinator, Baserunning Devon White Coordinator, Baserunning But the one, maybe four, coaches who didn't trust him are fired. His is, "Don" Cooper, after all. QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 04:36 PM) Who knows what they didn't trust him with? Maybe the coaches talked amongst themselves about what a terrible signing Dunn was and Coop told Kenny about it. Seriously? That's the most bulls*** backup ever. You might as well say they didn't trust him with their cupcake recipe. QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 05:18 PM) If Kenny wants to have a spy in the clubhouse that's his right. It does add to the dysfunction of it all though. Kenny doesn't need one. He works right up the f***ing stairs. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 05:28 PM) This is the general manager of the team. He spends Spring Training with them. He's turned over a table mid-season before. The General Manager being present should not add to dysfunction. BUT HE DONE NEED A SPY!
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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 10:35 AM) Guillen was hired by chairman Reinsdorf. Williams needed a spy. If by "Hired by chairman Reinsdorf" you mean "Hired by Kenny Williams", since the GM, you know, does hires. QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 01:33 PM) Again, don't understand the Cowley hatred. Would you prefer him not to report what Guillen thinks of Cooper or Williams? He is a poor journalist. He editorializes (slight pass as a columnist), he tells a one-sided story, has told one story for a year now (despite the fact that he is no longer the writer for just the Sox), he mocks the local fan base, makes s*** up for a story, and has been banned from the White Sox front office and suspended from the BBWAA for a reason. QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 01:41 PM) I think it's news that Guillen went on record about his feeling about Cooper. I'd rather know information from one side than get no information at all. I think I'm intelligent enough to understand Guillen has an agenda and can take that into account when reading about this. Was it news then when Oney aired Bobby's dirty laundry? Yes. Did it need to be editorialized? No. And you may be intelligent enough to realize Ozzie has an agenda when you read and/or write these stories, but a lot of people taken written word as gospel, due to the "believe none of what you hear, half of what you read" saying.
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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:29 AM) Two things: 1.) If Guillen was so concerned with his coaches he should have brought Cox and Walker with him to Miami. 2.) Coop being called out as a rat seems to be deserved. 1) Yes! 2) Then can I call Ozzie a chihuahua (all bark and no bite), Harold a panda, and Herm a penguin? QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:41 AM) Make your own judgement about working with a rat . . . Coop is Kenny's eyes and ears in that clubhouse. Ok, I will. The rat who circumvented his boss to demand and extension...got fired. The guy who went to his boss and asked for one is still here. QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:51 AM) Now it makes sense why Coop wasn't given serious consideration for the manager's job. Kenny didn't have a spy to take his place. Or maybe because he's a brilliant pitching coach? QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 10:17 AM) It would be beneficial to everyone involved if you put some thought into your posts. Cooper got a 4-year deal, Ventura got a 3-year deal. It would be beneficial to everyone involved if you put some thought into your posts. Cooper, Baines, and all the non Cora/Cox/Walker coaches got fired. Ozzie quit. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 10:23 AM) And you think that Cooper being a snitch is why? :lolhitting :lolhitting No legitimate back up info!
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QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 01:24 PM) 9,000 comments better than this one? “Since last year, this was about integrity, it was about loyalty, it was about do they want me here. Let me say it my way: The Sox were saying, ‘Yes, we want to f--- you, but we don’t want to marry you.’ ’’ I doubt that. Of course you do, you think Ozzie is an infallible god. Also, the joke appeared to go over your head. QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 01:33 PM) Again, don't understand the Cowley hatred. Would you prefer him not to report what Guillen thinks of Cooper or Williams? Probably because he's a hack journalist who has recycled the same story for over a year now. QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 01:41 PM) Here's the thing...everyone knows that KW and Ozzie disliked each other. However, if Cowley wants to investigate the 2011 White Sox, I'd rather know about what issues haunted Dunn, etc. Was it due to Dunn's work ethic? Eating fried chicken and drinking beer between innings? No one cares anymore about the Ozzie/KW dynamic. That story died the second Venutra was hired and Theo to the Cubs gained steam. ...real journalism? QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 02:29 PM) Cowley's reports are one-sided, but KW and Jerry won't talk to him, so hey, he gets to fire away with one side of the story. I can't believe people aren't a bit concerned about Coop after it was alleged he was a rat and snitch. Who's gonna want to pitch for him if that's true? Who's going to want to play for a loudmouth jackass who quits on his team, a confirmed rat, won't work unless he has more money coming his way, has a barely above .500 record, elevates himself above the players, can't develop young players, puts players in a position to fail, and wants the entire f***ing spotlight on him 24-f***ing-7?
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Classiest managing staff ever assembled. I could see Thome working, but I'd have him behind Laker and ahead of Thomas. I think they could all do the job.
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QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 02:04 AM) Couple things. 1.) I wish I could go on a 16-day vacation right now. Ah to be rich like Ozzie. 2.) Coop may be a rat. Should get interesting to see if anybody else supports Ozzie on this. Nobody likes a suck up rat and in Ozzie's opinion Coop is a rat. Hmmmm. That last quote from Ozzie may be the best quote in sports history. There are over 9000 quotes better.
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2011-12 White Sox off season catch all thread
Quin replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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QUOTE (sircaffey @ Oct 17, 2011 -> 10:27 PM) It's called vacation. To the Dominican Republic?
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When Ozzie no longer has a mic in his face or Cowley a job.
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Shocking, Cowley wrote another Ozzie article.