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QUOTE (Tex @ May 26, 2016 -> 07:31 AM) There are two different issues here, Robin and Ozzie. Robin's demeanor reminds me of Tony L during his tenure as manager. I think he will be appreciated more years after his career. Today it is very frustrating. Ozzie? Seriously why even bring up his name? He will never work in baseball again. Nostalgia is dangerous. That would take a lot less brainwave activity to do that.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 26, 2016 -> 07:21 AM) He probably did get fired in Miami at least in part due to his comments on Castro, though. He did. That was it. I don't even see why this part is debatable.

QUOTE (Tex @ May 26, 2016 -> 07:33 AM) Is it better to have won and lost than never to have won at all? It feels like many on the board wish we had been .500 from the start. Or they want the team to tank bad enough that Robin gets fired

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 25, 2016 -> 06:37 PM) Certainly not a bad place to start. Its time to clear out the dead wood. Including perhaps don cooper. I'm always on the fence with Cooper. Firing Cooper because someone better is out there is no like firing Ventura because someone better is out there.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 25, 2016 -> 08:03 PM) My favorite line is the "I know there's a lot of baseball left" part making it sound like we're in last place or something. If there wasn't baseball left in the regular season we'd be in the playoffs. and looking like they don't belong in there

QUOTE (hi8is @ May 25, 2016 -> 07:16 PM) If only we would have signed Cespedes. Imagine what his OPS would have translated to in terms of wins above Avi. I don't know. If he wore that Sox uniform....he'd be like the others. In a slump, at least 3 other guys would slump.

Just face it. It won't get better until this team is gutted from the top down. They don't invest in an experienced manager. Somewhere former players who step in to manage their team should realize you will be remembered as the hated manager and forgotten as the great player. I do wonder if the Sox are the only organization who asked someone to become a manager with that person having no intent of getting back into baseball. Even a guy like Frank Thomas were to become manager we would probably not like him either. I no longer want Sox retreads. It hasn't boosted the teams popularity. I don't think former players should ever manage the team they play for. It's the best way to crap on your legacy. The patterns of incompetence year after year are the fault at the top. We can't change this. So my interest in the team is challenged. I dislike everything White Sox except for Sox Talk. It's the only thing that keeps me interested. I so want new ownership and someone way outside the organization. Most successful owners are very good at handsoff. They also don't allow things as nepotism and employ their buddies. It's difficult for a major league team to lose money these days. I want an owner who wants to win but without a Jerry Jones ego. I want one who tries to get the best scouts and instructors. Those would be evaluated by performance. We see the same mistakes like being clueless at baseball, folding under pressure and yet those people in the organization remain. I feel duped thinking it may be different this year and I know there's a lot of baseball left but how many times will it take for Charlie Brown to realize not to try to kick the football? I feel like this team is cursed. The nice start most likely was due to new players on the field. But one they get assimilated into that Sox uniform they become a Sox and it's downhill after that. This is a mystery I can't solve. I think back when Thomas, Alexi, and Beckham (you can even go back to Thad Bosley) came up. When was the last time a guy from the minors brought excitement to the team? Now it's boneheaded mistakes like bad base running or misplaying a fly ball or the typical exhibit of mental weakness. The only hope I can see if there's a complete change in the top otherwise we will see more of this.

Good managers still can't win with bad players. This organization could stop being a training ground for managers anytime now.

According to the box score one of the mental midgets have up a run out of the pen. Don't stop now boys.

I was hoping this thread was sarcasm but I guess some or one is serious about this, eh?

Just curious is anyone following some other teams this year on MLBTV?

QUOTE (StrykerSox @ May 24, 2016 -> 08:04 PM) If anything, Chris Sale's CY status just went from "nobody else gets any righteous votes at all" to "no one else gets a single first place vote". No biggie. He was due to lose eventually. He got tired of beating two lineups and the pen.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 24, 2016 -> 07:49 PM) We really need to have coaches like other teams in the league that 100% specialize in certain aspects of teaching the game even at the big league level...refinement. Defense, baserunning, bunting, fundamentals, etc. The cronyism thing has helped in the case of Cooper being one of the best for a long time, but it often hurts just as much. And where the heck is Vince Coleman? It's consistent. They don't have that in the minors either.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ May 23, 2016 -> 09:54 PM) My thoughts on the double header: Glad the team got a split. Zach Duke...not good. Eric Johnson...four A player at best, not good. His ship has sailed, he gets ZERO more chances in my book. Try some other stiff. Sox offense against a pitcher who came in with an ERA OF ALMOST SEVEN...brutal, absolutely impotent. Flat out bad. Hope Sale can keep winning tomorrow. Mark Well that guy actually did a great job. He knew the Sox couldn't get around on his fastball even if it was straight.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 23, 2016 -> 09:37 PM) LOL @ Green Line. No, he'd rather bring in Thome or Rowand so we can go through another "good guy" with Sox roots, someone it would be extremely hard to hate on in the beginning. Just hope we see how this team would actually respond behind Renteria either this season or next. Realistically, it's probably 2017. That's when I will start to lose interest in this team until all instances of the Reinsdorf regime is fully gutted.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ May 23, 2016 -> 08:18 PM) Unless Anderson somehow blows this, hard to see the Sox getting 3 to win this. How if he only had our manager he'd be gone after 6 therefore increasing the chances of a no decision.

I'm still a Juan Uribe fan.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ May 23, 2016 -> 06:11 PM) What's it gona take for Robin to be fired? Nothing. The only option is to find another team to root for.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ May 23, 2016 -> 05:51 PM) For me it started with pulling Latos with 3 run lead in the 7th at 80ish pitches. +1

I have no idea how Jones throws so hard with that windup.

More mental midget performances.....stay tuned.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 22, 2016 -> 03:07 AM) They did trade Reed and Santos, fwiw. Devenski to the Astros for Myers. As far as other competitors for Frazier, the Indians were very interested, as they didn't have a solution at that position coming into the year. Right now, they're using Uribe. As far as the 2005-06 teams go, a lot of players were never the same...Iguchi, Politte, Hermanson, Contreras after he got injured in May of 2006, Pods just never got back his aggressiveness on the basepaths, Crede and Jenks eventually fell apart physically. But yeah, they calculated wrong on Anderson vs. Young in CF, Javy became more a "big" game headache, you could name about 25 things. Freddy Garcia and Garland eventually started to lose their effectiveness as well. It was a veteran team, and all those players peaked, with just a few exceptions. So many what ifs...if Borchard became the player he was projected to be, or Josh Fields, just one of those guys making it would have made a huge difference, and they never would have had to trade for Thome. Of course, we don't know how long Rowand would have lasted in a White Sox uniform before he was permanently injured with his reckless style of play. They are a testament of how inept the organization was under KW. Always drafting athletes instead of baseball players. Borchard was probably a victim of being brought up too soon. Fields is an example of terrible scouting/development. If a guy can't catch a baseball that's something you really can't improve upon at the professional level. That seems to be the problem with the minors. They have so many with hardly any baseball instinct.

QUOTE (harkness @ May 21, 2016 -> 03:30 PM) It's early... but this team looks exactly the team I recognized the last 4 years under Hahn/Ventura. Lifeless offense and a bury your head in the sand conclusion at the end. This feels way way too familiar. It's the scouting. While the Sox may have good luck finding young pitching, everything else in the scouting department is beyond terrible.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 19, 2016 -> 08:29 AM) Jake Peavy, the guy who was a Cy Young and 3 time all-star? The guy who came back from a historic first surgery for a pitcher to still put up some big years even as he has gotten into his mid 30's with greatly diminished stuff? Yeah, I'd say he backed it up. We got none of that. Some can fall for the hype. The only thing he was good at in a Sox uniform was being on the DL. His career is overrated.

QUOTE (Deadpool @ May 20, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) But if you follow the series over the years, the infatuation with that rivalry is over. it was novel for the first decade the games counted, but now people just care less than ever. Yeah, Sox and Cubs fans give each other a ribbing or whatever, but the excitement over that silly series has subsided locally. The national media just hasn't paid enough attention to notice. This concocted rivalry existed long before inter league play.