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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 10, 2015 -> 04:42 PM) Well, Ozzie is also terrible at making rookies feel wanted. Most of professional baseball didn't want them either.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 10, 2015 -> 05:51 PM) The game tonight is pretty meaningless, so Sale should throw a gem. He only chokes in the big games. You are thinking of Jake Peavy. Not too many big games have existed during the Sale era. What about Smarj? I'm not sure what qualifies as a big game for an organization like this. Most of the guys they acquire are from losing organizations so they probably don't know what a "big game" is.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 10, 2015 -> 03:51 PM) Given the way people rarely leave the organization let along get outright fired job security should be the thing they should be least concerned over. Marl I heard Hahn was paid well for an assistant because he was highly sought by other organizations. So I don't think he's worried.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 10, 2015 -> 02:05 PM) He and Sandy Alomar have been passed over so many times, you can't help but wonder what fatal flaw teams are seeing, that we aren't. It reminds of the Thibs situation to be honest. Maybe they are easy going and don't bench players for bad mistakes, working on fundamentals, ect. Sounds like a fit for this organization. Then again maybe they would want more control in philosophy of how the team plays. I think this is where managing in the MLB is so different from the other sports. If you have a different philosophy of how to win it's different than the organization it's hard to change that. I doubt they are asked on who to draft.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 10, 2015 -> 01:44 PM) As a White Sox fan I found his opening campaigning for a contract extension with a year left on his deal and his team collapsing, then opening courting another job during the season WAY more troubling then any of his personal political views. His political views don't concern me nearly as much as his penchant for putting his own self in front of the team. I think he was disappointed when testing Reinsdorf playing favorites that Kenny won. Part of me also thinks Ozzie new how bad the organization is with player development and probably couldn't deal with this current mess.

QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Aug 10, 2015 -> 08:36 AM) lolwut PS it's only a season from hell if you are obsessed with the Cubs/Sox "rivalry." People act like the Cubs have won a spot already.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 10, 2015 -> 09:38 AM) I wouldn't be surprised if two / thirds of the crowd this weekend for the Cubs series are made up of Cub fans. And I wouldn't blame Sox fans for staying away given the franchises performance certainly since September 2012. Something else I've noticed which should be troubling to the organization. On the on-line version of the Tribune the past two mornings, not one word, one story is about the Sox on the page that first comes up on the screen. As bad as the Sox are you'd think the "badness" would get some mention. It isn't. The Sox are becoming totally irrelevant in their own city. Not blaming the papers in one sense (although from a journalistic standpoint it shouldn't matter what the team's record is). My guess is that the majority of the season ticket holders who signed up this year after the off season spending spree on veterans in their 30's won't be back. Mark Badness has existed since April so it is no longer news. It's Bear season for the media. The Cubs managed to put a dent in it.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Aug 10, 2015 -> 10:08 AM) The Sox should've claimed him...SMH. This team is still in contention, why not go for it? Can he hit?

Lucky the Royals didn't acquire Smarj. Of course it would be fair since we've traded for some of their stink.

Waiting for the pen to go into mental midget mode and put the game out of reach.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 07:02 PM) That would help a lot but even then do you trust the front office to do any good with the extra $13M ? I'm sure they can find another over the hill NL player to take his place. After two tries maybe another career NL player to e a DH will work.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 07:07 PM) You're right, the structural problem with the White sox is "Terrible scouts + terrible decisions associated with that scouting." Problem is - giving up on Phegley, Semien, Bassitt - is exactly the "terrible decisions associated with that scouting." Josh Phegley is a backup C - like you say - and catchers never learn anything with additional work right? Players never learn better defense when given the opportunity. That's buried into the White Sox system. Rush guys up to the big leagues and make decisions on them as fast as you can because they never learn anything and never get better. So why not deal them for a pitcher 1 year from free agency, because Phegley will never do better in the next 5 years than he did in 2014. The reality is...if your players rush up to the big leagues and never develop...that's an indictment of your organization and your development more than anything else, because Phegley is already doing more than any other catcher in our Org is. Until this changes trading for "prospects" is a big risk.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 01:45 PM) Flowers sucks, but the difference between him and a typical catcher these days isn't enough to bring out all the disdain. He's not good, but look at the catchers in baseball. There aren't many who are. I was at a game vs. KC a couple Sundays ago, and the Sox were stinking up the joint. a guy a section over put up with everyone sucking except when Flowers struck out he couldn't help himself. It seems to be a theme in Soxville. If Flowers was the Sox biggest problem, Robin would be getting his rotation set for the playoffs right now. It's not the glamorous position it use to be. I'm assuming even talented kids in amateur baseball would be playing different positions.

QUOTE (Brian26 @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 08:06 PM) It's smart philosophy around these parts to not want to pay players for past performance. Seasoned managers like Gardenhire are washed-up, out of touch, etc. So, I'm seriously wondering why a 60 year old guy who has been around the block several times, has made his money and hasn't necessarily shown any apptitude for new philosophies in player evaluation other than carrying his owner's checkbook around for the past nine years, would be the savior of this franchise. The trend in GM hiring seems in CHC, Boston, SD, etc is to hire guys in their early 30s. I can't really find much logic in this.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 09:46 PM) Balta's post is very, very, VERY good. I agree with him on many of the points he brought up. I think they went off the rails because Kenny simply couldn't wait. Many of these signing over the winter appeared to have his fingerprints all over them. (veterans in their 30's). Hahn appeared to want to be more patient but apparently he was over ruled as Kenny himself said anything Hahn and his staff want to do they have to run it by him first. The other factor I think was that even with maybe the best stadium deal in MLB (as outlined by the tribune) last year, attendance was dropping dangerously low. The franchise had lost fans from the previous year for eight consecutive seasons. They had lost 56% of the attendance since the end of the 2006 season. The decision was made in part to do something to bring back the season ticket holders. Obviously it hasn't worked on the field. Patience is a virtue, Kenny with his "football mentality," and his "go for broke" approach just doesn't have the capacity to wait three or four or five years so it's always "rebuild and contend" or "retool and contend" and that usually does not work. At least history shows it hasn't worked for this franchise for almost a decade. "It's time" for drastic changes at all levels in the front office. New blood, new ideas are desperately needed. Mark To me that would mean getting rid of scouts, instructional coaches and Buddy Bell. I believe at this level Reinsdorf has his favorites. I still believe getting players from losing organizations makes a difference. They've come from playing in non pressure situations.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 07:16 AM) Let's hear some names. I'll start with some obvious ones that'll get tossed around: 1. Ozzie Guillen- His .524 winning percentage with the Sox is a lot better than Ventura's. Left on bad terms though. 2. Dave Martinez- The next great manager according to everyone but the 30 GMs running teams. Worrisome that he hasn't been hired yet, particularly by the Rays. 3. Joe McEwing- Perennial managerial and been with the Sox awhile now. Good 3rd base coach outside whatever the f*** 2 nights ago was. 4. Sandy Alomar Jr- The coveted catcher to manager move. Being groomed as a manager by the Indians. Obvious Sox ties. 5. Joey Cora- Key part of the Guillen "glory days" but without the shenanigans. Vanderbilt educated. So why are these people not appealing to other teams?

Another mental midget performance by the pen? Too much choke and no clutch with this organization.

If you want ace money then act like one. He's the new Javier Vasquez.

QUOTE (LDF @ Aug 1, 2015 -> 07:03 AM) i like it. i would shelf sale for the season, if beck was in any condition. time to see how the pitchers performed in aug. some can say, it is a trail run for the majors pitching or another spring training session or something wittier than that. This is the most ridiculous thing in professional sports. Athletes are there to compete. Some are at a level where inactivity produces regression. You can't treat these guys like glass. You can't plan around injury. Remember Sale couldn't start the season it wasn't baseball related.

I get tied of after the starter getting bombed the pen needs to capitalize with a mental midget performance by giving up more runs.

There went my hopes of them being undefeated the rest of the season.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 01:02 PM) ahhhh. ref to Jr.... umm he is one of the owners so yeah. for humor purpose only. JR absolutely is a "hands-on" owner. I've been told by my sources that more than once, for example, he has "suggested" whom the Sox should pick in the June draft. Which puts his scouting / development folks in an awkward situation. How many times would you feel comfortable going against the wishes of your boss? Mark

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 11:06 AM) This run reminds me of the 2000 White Sox who had the big 8 game winning streak on the road, which pretty well put away the 2000 divisional title. Anyone else? No. We've seen the pattern when they get close to or slightly above .500 they tank. August is usually mental midget month. This is when they get owned by teams they should beat. I want to be so wrong on this.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 10:32 AM) Kenny himself told the media in June that before anything happens regarding the Sox roster Hahn and his staff have to come to him to lkabout it. I strongly appears that he has the authority to say no to anything Hahn does or does not wan to do. Mark That may be more common than people think. Such things as poor defense, scouting, minor league instruction, tells me Kenny and J.R. are still in control.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 07:23 PM) If people don't want to watch the Sox, then just don't watch them. We're better off without fair-weather fans. Just don't come back when we start winning. Am I the only one that finds these statements beyond silly. How wold this attitude apply in the real world outside of professional sports?