kitekrazy

How do you know you will? Trading to get better is more of a myth with this organization. But.......We can Make Birmingham Better.....every fan wants that. What is decent? 75-87? If this trade fenzy really worked in baseball the habitual losing small market teams (Sox are one of them) have to get better but they don't. They may get lucky once or twice but if the constant is below average development and coaching you might as well keep a star player for fans to watch. Anyone good goes - isn't going to help an organization or the game. Most fans don't care about a stocked or good farm system. Say if they trade Robert and Crochet......what will it take and how long for a fanbase to forgive that? JR has a history of telling the fans they can't have nice things.

It's simple. White Sox fans can't have nice things as long as JR is the owner. He's created a habitual losing small market franchise. If you look at his history as the owner you can make a nice list of fans can't have nice things.

I'm changing mine slowly as in finding another team. Owners are bad for baseball anyway.

Fans buy into that. That is the problem with baseball. If we have someone good and don't win with them, let's trade them for some possible prospects. More often failure than success. Why not keep a player win or not to have fans watch. You get a player that has some cost control and is a once in a generation type player when they are on the field you don't trade them. Rare do those team ever get better. Not gonna win so lets trade is another myth in baseball. A lateral move at best. That would be so Reinsdorf to do something like this. It's pretty much what he's done. Start with Sportvision, strike, TLR manager. If there's a parade he'll piss on it, Funny how some fans keep/organizations keep up with these mythical formulas and their teams go nowhere. The average doesn't even care about a farm system. Trading Robert will probably be the end of my fandom. They will still suck and trade the next Robert. Hard to belive Thomas lasted that long as a Sox.

Probably long term as well. How many of the other habitual losing small market teams get better with trade frenzy? We buy into this mythical formula. You still have to develop those players.

I can....he can't overcome a shitty owner

That's the Sox MO.

I have to wonder if players don't really want to play for Grifol. He doesn't seem to have a leadership personality. When the lowly Royals don't want to give you an opportunity that has to speak volumes. He says all of the wrong things even the day he was hired.

The trade frenzy prospect humpers think he will bring some kind of value. He's basically a fragile player physically and mentally. Maybe there is a GM that is naive at the Getz/TLR level. The organization's hopes are in Birmingham. Will they be rushed? Then when they make it to the big league roster there will be some growing pains.

The only thing both teams are going to get out of this series is better looking hitting stat and then it will be back to normal.

I guess it's their turn since since JR has been doing that for years

Soroka should be called Sosucka

The real issue is development. They same to have no shortage of dumb baseball players.

prospect humping........it's what habitual losing small market teams do........oooooo why got the farm stocked.....no promises in tomorrow.

It's a copycat of the other habitual losing small market teams...this organization is littered with formal Royals. We can then emulate the Reds, Pirates, and A's. We can talk about our "stocked farm system" and put faith in those farm system rankings and only find out they are a bunch of Scott Ruffcorns. If one player turns out to be good then the trade frenzy happens for more rinse and repeat failures. The best way out of the Sox organization is to have Boras as your agent. How many thought hiring Tony was another way to destroy your fanbase and yet JR will find better ways to ruin a fanbase in one of the largest cities on the planet. If you are going to be a Sox fan expect getting fucked for JRs eternity or yours which ever ends first.

Good thing Piersal isn't around and forgets the mute button. This team could lose Hawk's sense of being a homer.

There's a lot more of that in baseball. Look at the other team on the field.

It only makes sense if you have a potential replacement in the minors. CF has been a glaring hole for like eternity. Let's do it again. Trade frenzy is a mental illness reserved for baseball. They will follow the pattern of the other habitual losing small markets by trading anyone good for a better tomorrow that never comes. Those actions can't overcome poor scouting and development. Hauls are a myth along with stocked farm and farm system rankings. There is no such thing as can't miss prospects and another team willing to give those up. *see Sale trade* I think this is one of the reasons why baseball sucks in popularity. Other than that it's fine for fantasy and armchair GM wannabes. So what if he is a Boras client. Maybe this offseason some player were to busy looking at possible dollars and failed to look at the SENSE when March rolled around. Players/former players call it collusion which is bullshit. There's collusion in the real world and that's why you don't see cashiers making $50 an hour. They overprice themselves in a market fewer people care about.

The pressure is on the Cubs in this series.

I put more of the blame on JR. It's been a downward spiral when he hired Tony.

LOL just LOL!

The baseball gods paused the game to let the Cubs know the are playing the worst team in baseball and it shouldn't look like this.

It seems like that is a trend in sports when people get fired they don't get hired again. New is in,

Post of the week.

also pride..........too many owners want to play GM.......rarely does that ever work in sports