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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 09:31 AM) I've seen a lot of posts wanting Ventura yelling and screaming at players and umpires, thinking that makes a difference. Where you work are the most effective bosses people who yell and scream at their employees if the results haven't been what they expect? Do you yourself respond better when being yelled at? Yep, I get tired of the showing emotion=they care. Kids and parents have bought into that crap and amateur sports have become a cesspool of incivility.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 07:50 PM) I haven't though the team looked lazy this year. More dumb than lazy. Stuff like running into outs has been happening way more often than guys not taking a base when they should for example. That is the Sox MO. They are always a dumb baseball team.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 11:06 AM) This fact somehow seems to escape so many people around here. It's fascinating. I wish we could also stop rehashing the past about this.

What happen to Tim Lincecum? How the might have fallen. 5+ ERA. It's like the pitching version of Adam Dunn.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 08:09 PM) Everyone that posts here has an agenda. Yours is further from reality than most. This is the funniest thing I've read in awhile. Can someone actually upstage you in this department?

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 01:43 PM) Ozzie ruined 2012. Dunn was worth his contract. You can choose to ignore his career stats up until signing with the White Sox if you like, but in the real world, players who achieve what Dunn achieved get those kinds of contracts. If the Sox didn't sign him someone else would have been saddled with his deal. GMs, like anyone else on the planet, need to be evaluated based on what they were able to do with what they had to work with & with the information available at the time. You can't punish a GM for not being a psychic. Yes Dunn was a high K machine, but he was also in his prime, left-handed, an OBP machine, and a huge power threat. Kenny only gave him 4 years, which was probably the bare minimum he was going to get. IIRC the Tigers were also in on him & there were people saying Dunn would get 5 years. This was a good on-paper move that backfired, and the type of move any GM could make. Take AA for instance, this guy was a genius 6 months ago & now he's garbage who needs to be ousted. Really? Did he completely lose all mental faculties over the last 6 months? Or did he make a couple moves that looked good on paper but turned to s*** on the field? Blaming KW for Dunn is completely ridiculous. Oh I don't know. There were fans who didn't agree with the signing. Isn't he usually the type of guy Kenny likes to get? No versatility on the bases and the field. I guess NL stats don't automatically convert to AL stats.

I think it goes deeper. Get when of your scouting and development as well.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 31, 2013 -> 12:13 PM) I absolutely would. Eventually teams that finish 2nd or 3rd get lucky and hit the wild card. They've been doing that. They don't get lucky. This is part of the attendance problem. Competitive usually run hand in hand with mediocre.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 31, 2013 -> 08:42 PM) Why can't this year be the rock bottom year in a successful rebuild that includes dealing guys like Peavy and Rios? There is no evidence that they are capable of this. They draft poorly and I doubt the development is great either.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 31, 2013 -> 08:04 AM) Phil Rogers also suggests releasing Dunn and trading for Ethier at a reduced rate to replace him. That is absurd. Ethier is locked in until 2017 at $85 million and is strictly a platoon player as well at this point. Phil Rogers being the lead baseball writer for the biggest newspaper in the country's 3rd largest market has been and is a complete joke. Fantasy baseball and Phil Rodger are synonymous or it is fantasy and Phil? He never fails to complete something intelligent with something extremely stupid.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 31, 2013 -> 08:09 AM) George Brett said yesterday that "Home runs can kill rallies". That's one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Why don't the Royals just get it over with and fire their lunatic of a manager. Sox fans often take that philosophy. With the current ballpark, I believe most of the players believe that philosophy.

I would assume regression just by not being in a Yankee's lineup. Even Swisher put up better numbers there.

I find it boring and over done. The Sox/Cub rivalry is pretty meaningless around August. It's always the failure to capitalize on weaker teams the always haunt the Sox down the stretch.

Just because Sox baseball sucks it doesn't mean this forum has to suck. After a thread like this, I almost respect guys like Marty.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 29, 2013 -> 11:03 AM) If the Sox traded Ramirez, who would play SS, not just this season, but moving forward? It is one of the most vital positions on the field. According to the brilliant Marty that player's name is I Don't Care.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 29, 2013 -> 04:55 PM) Yes, but, just when they had some positive momentum finally going, it's gone like that. Even if it didn't count, the Cubs got to Sale as well yesterday... Oakland has won five in a row, and 10 of their last 11, including two in a row over a good Giants team. If Oakland beats us up pretty good in those two series, we might be lucky to be at .500 at the end of June. A couple of days ago, it looked like 5-7-9-11 games over .500 was possible. It's still POSSIBLE. But not without defense, enough offense and a decent bullpen (before Crain/Reed). It wouldn't be White Sox baseball without that, What's it like to see the Sox be the Cub's b****?

QUOTE (fathom @ May 28, 2013 -> 01:33 PM) The actions this offseason definitely were not of an organization in win-now mode, in my opinion. Free agent market wasn't so great either. Best deal was resigning Peavy.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 28, 2013 -> 01:39 PM) Wow, you are full of it today. Just a word of advice leave the humor to the professionals, you aren't that good at it. My humor >>>>>Marty's opinions.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 26, 2013 -> 06:18 AM) http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...54.story?page=1 It sounds too much like Phil Rodgers. Not one of Mark's best. Camelback Ranch remains one of the best spring training facilities despite the fact home plate faces the sun and leaves fans scrambling for shade when temperatures exceed 75 degrees. Engineering and architecture is far from brilliant in AZ. My Spring training experiences have not been great. Went to the Peoria stadium in 50 degree weather. Seat were uncomfortable, my neck hurt for 2 days. Camelback is very uncomfortable because someone decide to build the park facing the sun and offer little shade. Chase Field....a different story.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 26, 2013 -> 01:32 PM) Yet somehow...."No Whiners!" or "Stop Complaining/Moaning" doesn't seem like the greatest marketing slogan, either. There's no way of attracting fans without insulting our fanbase? Because if we're waiting for the older fans to die out...why aren't we seeing increased attendance from that younger generation of fans in their 20's and 30's who have grown up with mostly KW teams and a World Series winner? Aren't they also the ones who are complacent and hypercritical, whereas it's more the older fans in their 40's and 50's who have always tended to be more supportive/patient, as they'd already gone through decades of bad Sox baseball....namely, for most of the 60's, 70's and 80's? They have done that to a point. Fandom is often passed down to generations. Sportsvision and the strike are two black eyes to this organization. No back to back post seasons. If it is the fans then move the team. It works as long as they never had an MBL team and eventually you will have to win there as well. Maybe they should move to Oklahoma.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 28, 2013 -> 11:52 AM) White Sox fans are the only fans in MLB that get mad at their team for trying to win. I think fans view this season as not trying to win. Resigning players, getting involved more in free agency is usually a baseball fan's definition of trying to win. They've done this in the past and seem to fail at it lately. If they do a fire sale then it will be 100% proof. At least Marty will be happy. If they somehow get Jaun Pierre through those trades, Marty will be getting a season ticket skybox.

QUOTE (bbilek1 @ May 28, 2013 -> 11:43 AM) I don't think comparing and contrasting the NFL and the MLB and their handling of busts brings anything to the argument. The two leagues operate differently. Not as much as you think. Even top level NFL free agents get a longer rope. They might get benched in the last year of their contract unless you can get draft picks. Obvious draft picks are more meaningful in the NFL.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 28, 2013 -> 12:33 PM) I don't think it's going to be nearly as fun to have that attitude when they're paying the last few years of Fielder's deal. Detroit media was very critical of that deal. Not so much about the length but they overpaid since no one was biting early on the agent's demand. At least it made Hendry proud.

Cooper needs to use his magic wand if there is anything left of it.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 28, 2013 -> 12:55 PM) That's part of the equation, but this isn't fantasy baseball. Guys get paychecks, and with the new rules with the draft, stud minor leaugers are going to be more difficult to pry away. So you still aren't ready to go out on a limb and tell us what type of prospects the Sox should expect in return, just make it an auction, and best bid wins. No reserve. Correct? Do we dare trust this organization with others' prospects unless they are pitchers?