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QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 04:27 PM) Even those small sample size (like his good numbers) are those of a rotation staple. This is all at age 23...have to like some of the upside to improve, get smarter, etc. I've found that if you acknowledge the worst case possibility with pitchers, you'll never, ever feel good about your staff. You have to consider every possibility. Sale, Danks, Quintana is likely a very good start to a rotation for next season. Throw a Floyd, Peavy, Liriano, or someone else with a good track record and its pretty damn good. If not, KW can work his magic for us On the SCORE they once mentioned the Sox have a winning record when he doesn't have a quality start.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 03:19 PM) My wife won't let me go... something about airfafre, hotel, meals, etc But, someday soon IO hope. Meantime you guys go and cheer extra hard. Make Marty buy I was lucky last year to catch a Sox game at Chase Field. My brother has a friend who had D-Back season tickets 7th row down 3rd. We got to see Jackson vs. Hudson. I live really close to the Sox ST facility. There's very little shade and March weather can be unpredictable.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 03:37 PM) Depending on where you park, there's not a lot of traffic to fight. Once you get onto the highway at night on Labor Day, you're set. Or public transit. I don't think there is a such thing on 1-55 on any day or night. I don't live there anymore and probably would have spent money on a Jackhammer's game. I use to get a Guiness and nachos for $10.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 03:47 PM) Wrigley is a big tourist attraction too. A lot people there probably aren't even baseball fans, let a lone care if the Cubs win. Yep. If you are into old parks that's a place to go. What's the chances of that being destroyed or Fenway? The sad thing is I've been to Wrigley more than the Cell. But then was when the Cubs had guys like Sutcliff. I was going to go to a Sox/Twins game back in the Manuel era but the lowest price ticket was $25. You could go see Peyton Manning, Edgirrin James and Marvin Harrison at the RCA Dome for $15. There's something wrong with that picture. Sometimes I think Sox fans don't like or trust Reinsdorf. That is probably more ignorance but it's hard to nail why the Sox draw like a 3rd market team. Maybe they could stop b****ing about attendance for a start. There's also "we'll make the team better if you show up". Owners lie about that. See Bud Selig. Could you see a Domino's commercial, "We'll make our pizza better only if you order more"?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 01:33 PM) It's amazing how many big name players the Sox have added and still can't quite shake the hex of not making the playoffs. Good moves to bring in Myers, Youk and Liriano and even immediately fill a need for a week with Wise instead of going with some minor league hack of ours. KW has done all he can do, really. Now it's up to the players to close it out with a good 3.5 weeks or give up. Liriano is not big name. Sox will get 3 1/2, 4 star players (in my book) or past their prime. They pass on a Pujols, Fielder type player. Which is OK since the Sox have bad luck with those guys. I think the last time they made a big time splash was getting the great hitter from Cleveland to protect Frank and that didn't work out.

QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 03:07 PM) Are you serious? Peavy easily bests Mark Buehrle on paper. Good god, man. What paper did you check? Wall paper? http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/buehrma01.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/peavyja01.shtml I was speaking from a career reference. Defintely not from a shoulda kept Buehrle. Time to stop drinking that Peavy Kool-aid.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 03:29 PM) Quinarvy makes the best threads. That's all Favorite quote from his opening thread. Man, I never heard of him before, but f*** that guy.

QUOTE (MuckFinnesota @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 02:49 PM) After reading today's stupid article, I was real close to going. But home cooking and a comfy couch sounds better than sitting outside after doing yard work in a hot day. That said, I will be going with my old man to the Detroit series next week on Monday or Tuesday. A lot would depend on how far you are from the stadium. Who wants to fight the traffic home on a night game that's on a holiday. I would prefer a day game.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 03:00 PM) That article isn't so biased, actually. Points out that our television viewership has increased, more families attend Sox games (theoretically leading to more 2nd/3rd generation fans)... There's not such a HUGE disparity in the numbers as one would have thought...less than 10% for college graduates, etc. To boost excitement and attendance, the Sox are offering aggressive ticket discounts for the upcoming 10-game home stand, which includes what likely will be a playoff-critical, four-game series with the Detroit Tigers. Tickets are priced as low as $7 for upper deck seats and $18 for lower-level reserved seats. Gee, great Brooks....finally. But I guess it's better late than never. Maybe they didn't want the embarassment of NUMEROUS empty seats for a first place team playing home games in September. And it's a bit hard to fault fans after all those consecutive losses to DET. All Sox fans are discouraged, to an extent. But the real fans will be out there again tonight. Every day is a new day in baseball, that's the beauty of a 162 game season. So what if it says Cub fans are better at supporting their team? People want to dump that on the lap of the fans where in real world marketing it is on the owners. Day baseball and WGN did more for the Cubs for fans 40 and older. I use to be a Cub when I was in grade school. You got home and turned on WGN because that's what you watched because of Ray Rayner and Bozo. That was the team you were exposed to. Exposure has a lot to do with it. IF you don't have that then winning seems to work. Competitive doesn't.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 02:51 PM) Just goes to show you kids like Esmil Rogers can show up from the NL, have no prior history against the Tiggers, and go out and put goose-eggs on the scoreboard. Kid has an 8+ ERA for the Rockies and they gave him away for cash considerations. Do we have anyone you would trust with a 1 run lead in the 8th inning to get 3 outs against DET? I don't think so...MAYBE, just MAYBE, Myers. But trust? No way. That's how 2005 worked for the Sox. Someone forgot to tell Iguchi, Uribe, Dye and Pods that they are suppose to roll over against the Twins. But eventually they buy into it. That would also depend which 3 are batting for the Tigers in the 8th. I haven't seen anyone lately do a good job of keeping Fielder or Cabrera off the bases past the 7th. any why couldn't Delmon Young save that choke job for last night?

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 02:44 PM) The good news is that Detroit really isn't that good. The bad news is that for some f***in reason we can't beat them. This team has responded all season long when facing adversity so I'm not worried at all what their response will be but I sure as hell am worried about getting swept again next week when we face them. Hopefully the home cooking will help. They are under achievers right now. There's no excuse for them to be like this in Sept. with two stud starters, two stud hitters and a good pen in a weak division. In my perfect world it would be nice to be 6 up when they face them again. Then the attitude could be, "go ahead kick our ass, it won't help you".

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 01:40 PM) Frankly, yes, this season has been a decent success. If nothing else, they have turned around the "We keep getting worse every season" ethos and actually fielded a team that stayed competitive through September at the very least. On top of that, we suddenly have a whole lot of cheap young guys already contributing, particularly in the bullpen, who are likely to get better and clear salary for the future. Next offseason we can get back to the "Where the bleep did that come from" kenny williams signing/trades rather than the "we need to get rid of this salary" trades, and see where we can go. I'm still amazed they have made it this far with the injuries and those holes filled by inexperienced players. Also great coaching this year. This is one of the better fundamentally sound Sox teams we've seen in awhile. Even though you wouldn't notice it of late but much better approach at the plate. Plus you got some team speed. These are some of the things we envied from the winning Twins and they are present on the Sox.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 02:26 PM) Wasn't Hudson the tying run last night? During the series, Valverde looked like the weak link of their pen.

Looks like a 3 team race in the East now. After the Sox facing Scherzer and V. tonight should look like batting practice.

The Sox also need to put an end to blown saves.

After watching the Tigers for two weeks when they lose, they make it close. With the Sox it seems some games the concede to a loss and want to start over the next day. That could be that Cabrera and Fielder are hitting so well, it creates a lot of pressure for other teams.

That Clev pitcher should thank Prince for keeping that in the park.

QUOTE (Baron @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 02:04 PM) What a huge base running blunder Not surprised it involved Lillibridge. He's one of the dumbest players on the bases.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 02:00 PM) I know we faced their better pitchers, but doesn't this just make you want to scream: WE COULDN'T WIN ONE f***ING GAME THERE!!! I guess it's an oddity in baseball. The Sox lit up Texas this year.

Tigers are so fundamentally flawed. Reminds me of some of the White Sox teams.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 01:57 PM) Is it just me or does it feel like Detroit has played 100 home games? 102 to be exact.

Maybe Dotel can put up one of them patented mental midget performances like he did with the Sox.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 01:53 PM) YAY. Lillibridge. Strange season when he's making plays to help us down the stretch...at a position he might be a legit candidate to play on the Sox if we can't bring YOUK back. I guess not unlike Jayson Nix. So you'll see Sipp against Fielder, then Smith for final 2 outs, one would guess. Don't have many options outside of Youk. Morel still sucks at hitting.

QUOTE (Baron @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 01:47 PM) They were talking about the poor defense.Which has cost them a few runs today. Plus they have been very up and down. Seem to take all the momentum they gain and flush it down the toilet. They are probably easier to run against.

QUOTE (Baron @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 01:42 PM) Ive been enjoying Clevelands broadcast actually. They were just discussing how Detroit has great upside but also has alot of lows. Basically what everyone that wasnt in meltdown mode yesterday was talking about. What were those lows that they mentioned? If you think about it, the pressure is more on them.