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The Sox played so bad, they deserved to lose this one. So the ending was fitting.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 07:36 PM) Sitting him will ensure he will never make an errot again? I'm gonna go with Alexi is the type of player were time off hurts more than helps.

Rangers getting the crap beat out of them again. They'll get Lee.

QUOTE (Caesar @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 07:15 PM) This one is over. Books out on Quintana or was due for a bad outing.

Boston up 4-2

Let's see how the kid bounces back. Let's not get too paranoid.

Quotes from Rosenbloom's latest. Interestingly, White Sox general manager Ken Williams has no money and allegedly no prospects, but he seems to come up with young players that other teams identify as prospects. He comes up with deals. Williams traded for Kevin Youkilis to create the kind of big-boy lineup required in the American League, then Brett Myers to add a veteran set-up man/closer, and just last weekend Francisco Liriano to help a rotation get better and more rest. Whatever anybody thought of the Sox farm system, it has been good enough -- and Williams has been smart and creative enough -- to produce young talent that can help the big league team now, either in trade or in Sox fatigues. Kind of like a parallel front. Good phrase, that. Yeah, a parallel front -- winning in the race to develop young talent It always seem that during the season winning teams seem to get better trades.

Imagine how bad this team could have been if JR went totally cheap. Beckham, Morel, Flowers. Imagine them at the end of the order. That's when the bathrooms and concessions get crowded.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 10:38 AM) The White Sox lead the AL in Francisco Liriano additions in July. #0runsTuesday POTW. Classic!

QUOTE (balfanman @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 03:47 PM) I know what you're saying, but who knows what type of a rotation we could have in September? Danks - ? Peavy - Not pitched a full season in a while, dead arm ? Sale - dead arm ? Quintana - dead arm? Humber - ? Floyd - ? Liriano - ? When you think about it, the safest bet of the bunch might be Lariano. If I can pick up one more starter at a reasonable price it could mean an extra victory or 2. It might even mean that we would have a starter who could actually, you know.....pitch come playoff time. They should shelve Danks. They've got money invested in him. How much could he help this season? Too much risk unless the Sox were 10 games up.

QUOTE (sunofgold @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 03:42 PM) I don't know. 6 or 7. Get Dempster for a couple sucky low level prospects with low ceilings, trade Floyd and Beckham for an upgrade at 2nd base. I think that could be a plan. I would trust Floyd over Dempster. I don't think I want a NL guy who has to learn the AL this late in the game.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 09:03 AM) That's downright A+ reporting Laurence. At least it's accurate without throwing in speculation and people think it's true.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 10:21 AM) By now, you've probably heard about Chick-Fil-A and their anti-same sex marriage stand. This coming from a company that is openly evangelical. Is it a big deal? Personally, I think they can have any opinion they want, but it's a slippery slope. The corporation gives to "anti-gay" groups but will gladly accept money from the LGBT community (if anyone of them would ever go there again). But, you can't discriminate and not allow them to buy your chicken. Seems like this is a case of shut up and serve.... matt It's the gay right agenda bullying people. They owners are also against divorce. Where are the divorcees protesting? I doubt they discriminate in hiring. No one asks in an interview if you are gay unless you are interested in a job being a bartender at a gay bar. (gays do discriminate) They are a company, not a religious institution. They probably don't discriminate in hiring. I've read stupid statements from the mayors of Boston and Chicago about blocking this company from bringing in a franchise. I guess they have never heard of the 1st Amendment.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 12:55 PM) I guarantee it happens. I've gotten comments twice for being married to a "non-white" (both times were in Chicago of all places too). So if I'm getting comments for something that has been going on a lot longer, you better believe it happens quite a bit for something that as a whole is far less accepted in society. I think its unfair. To be honest, I think there are 2 debates. One is the religious debate regarding marriage. The other is the equality debate. I can see someone making the religious argument and understand there view (even if I disagree with it). However, I can't understand how you can't create a civil union which provides a gay couple the same exact rights as a married couple. Plus, to be frank, the religious side of the argument, shouldn't be up to the government. You are mistaken if you think gay marriage is only a religious debate and it is often portrayed that way. Communists don't support it.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 01:01 PM) The Franchise might be the least staged reality show out there and professional wrestling is real

QUOTE (scenario @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 12:53 PM) Well... not really comparable. The Tribe said they were interested in re-signing Thome. (Not sure how serious... But that is part of the equation) Thome proclaimed during the negotiation process that it wasn't about the money... That he loved playing in Cleveland and that "they'd have to tear the jersey off my back" to get him to leave. Then he left because Philly offered him one year more guaranteed on his contract. So... it was about the money. And fans saw him as a liar and hypocrit. He would have been better off if he never opened his mouth. Also playing for division rivals. What if MB signed with the Tigers this year? Some love would be lost.

QUOTE (sunofgold @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 09:24 AM) Don't see how we can trade Floyd right now. I think that he will be okay down the stretch. He did have some days off which probably should help him. He's the only starter who pitched the past two seasons AL post season experience Then there's Peavy - when's the last time he pitched a full season? Sale and Q - dead arm potential Humber - possible flash in the pan Liriano - what if Coop can't fix him After Grienke I don't know what realistic trade would bring a reward over the risks. If he's gone, you risk having a 4 man rotation. This is a scenario where the nontraditional 6 man rotation would work.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 01:01 AM) You certainly weren't the only one, but you were the most vocal on this site. Kenny Williams was on that list.

QUOTE (thedoctor @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 12:30 PM) the only reason you trade floyd is if it's to get some prospects you can subsquently flip for another starter. this team needs six starting pitchers for the rest of the year. it is essential, imo. That supports why you don't trade him.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 07:25 AM) Heyman was on Mulley and Hanely this am, and reiterated the fact KW is looking to try and find someone to trade for Gavin Floyd, and also reiterated KW is still one of the most active GMs out there. He said we are in on League, guess we will have to sit tight for another day or so. I think Kenny is still out there looking for a jaw dropper, just my opinion. I just get that feeling KW wanted the rush after a blockbuster like Grienke and he is like a gambler on a run, he wants that rush again. Not saying it will happen, I just think he has another impact move left before tomorrow at 3PM. Once we get closer to that 3 PM deadline the more you see GMs flinch and I think that's when Kenny is at his best. Kenny could be on of those as well. I really don't get the idea of trading Floyd. Of all of the starters he has the least ?

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 29, 2012 -> 07:49 PM) Yep. When Gavin has his A game going there aren't many better. You don't just give up on talent like that This is why the talk of trading him makes no sense.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 29, 2012 -> 02:55 PM) The one man rumor mill lives on! If Floyd is going somewhere it better be for a substantial piece back, I would be nervous with our current rotation minus Gavin. But who knows, the Liriano move could mean the Sox are offering Humber or Floyd to the highest bidder. That could backfire. Coop has to fix Liriano on the fly instead of Spring training.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 29, 2012 -> 02:40 PM) The market said otherwise. Danks would have been one of the top three pitchers on this FA market, and would have been a hundred million dollar contract, sans the shoulder problems. I think this is a situation where the fan base overrates him. Other than this upside we keep waiting on, his stats don't say $100K pitcher. The Sox were the high bidder in this one. He was determined during the season to be somewhere else.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 29, 2012 -> 01:00 PM) But they're not going to go into 2013 with Morel as the 3B after this year...the fans wouldn't be very tolerant after how well YOUK has played and how many games he's been the key to winning. Liriano, if he's comfortable here and enjoys working with Cooper, why not? Familiar with division, same area of the US roughly, he's not going to be getting $12.5 million (the minimum for compensation as an offer) or more, so he might want to sign a one year deal with the Sox, work with Nieves and Cooper, then go after the big payday in 2014. Liriano, with just a couple of exceptions, has pitched better than Floyd and Humber for the last 6-8 weeks. If you're KW, you take the potential turnaround of Liriano at $5-7 million over Gavin Floyd at $9.5 million every time. I hope they think $12M is worth since trying to fill that hole for 6 years has not worked. You can't have Beckham and Morel in the same line up.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 28, 2012 -> 09:31 PM) I didn't see the Tigers losing 4 of 5 after going 13-2, but that's baseball. They'll get hot again. The Sox will have a tough spot again. It's going to come down to the last 32 games, where they play 7 head-to-head. If one team goes 5-2 or better, they get the edge. To answer the question, 88-90 games. I just want the Sox to go 35-27 with at least 3 wins vs Detroit, and we're in. I think every team is good for an unrealistic winning streak for a season but those don't happen twice. Maybe a couple of their starters peaked last season. It will take one game victory than the 2nd place team to win the division. I still believe a WC berth is not an option.