kitekrazy

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 08:11 PM) Today was definitely one of those days I would have been content with Sox losing as well as Tigers lost. Gotta find a way to win tomorrow or have the struggling Jerome Williams find a way to beat the Tigers and go into the weekend series at least up 2.5 games. I didn't think the Sox had a chance. You can't expect having success with all of the minor league pitchers. It would be nice if it were that way.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 08:48 PM) Its not just Rios. It is a pattern of veteran players that were good before they got here, sucked for Ozzie, and then got better when they got away from him. Ah measuring a player in a vacuum. 2005 blows your theory.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 08:26 PM) Blaming Ozzie for Rios not playing hard is just as ridiculous as any praise Greg continues to throw Ozzie's way. Alex is supposed to be professional. Playing hard should be assumed. I am glad he's playing hard now. . WERD! It's not unusual to see teams and players improve when there are coaching changes. You have a new set of a eyes to see flaws that others have missed. It can also be players are stubborn to make changes until they reach a new level of failure.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 08:27 PM) What's worse today: Pedro or the White Sox offense? Tigers winning.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 07:50 AM) I think it's worth a shot. Obviously only if Danks is done for the season...and Quintana might hit a brickwall at some point with the number of pitches he has thrown this season already compared to seasons past. I think they tried this experiment before.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 01:15 PM) That's all it takes now with Twitter and everything. Easy to plant bad rumors out there. Too many bloggers. Somebody will blog it or bite. Phil Rodgers.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 12:24 PM) I just read through what I missed in the thread. This is still going on? Seriously? Marty, why is this still going on? Pierre is not coming back to town. Who cares which guy has more outs vs RH pitching? Juan Pierre sucks at baseball. I will give you that Viciedo is bad vs RHP but at least there is the chance that DV will hit for power off of RH pitching. This whole thread is nauseating though because of the Pierre discussion. My god just end it already. as Steve Rosenbloom would say Death not an option. Getting Jaun Pierre vs. Ozzie is a good manager. Discuss

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 07:49 AM) 2012 33 New York Mets $24,000,000 2013 34 New York Mets $25,500,000 2014 35 New York Mets *$25,000,000 $25M Team Option, $5.5M Buyout Option becomes player option if criteria is met relating to Cy Young finishes and 2011-2013 innings pitched Woa! Ridiculous! I have this illogical theory about former Twins stars. They rarely equal their greatness once they leave that organization.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Jul 17, 2012 -> 12:46 PM) Stopped reading there Yeah it was kind of an oxymoron.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 17, 2012 -> 12:09 PM) I really have no inside info, just a brother-in-law who works in sports at WTMJ in Milwaukee and he texted yesterday to say he was surprised to hear the Sox are aggressively after Greinke. Maybe just kicking the tires like everybody else? Sounds like the Cubs are going to get some good offers on Dempster, and I could see the Tigers making a big splash by getting Barney as well and sending back the likes of Turner and Castellanos. Talk about a game changer... Phil Rodgers thinks the Brewers want Floyd for Grienke. That still makes them a short a starter.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 17, 2012 -> 11:59 AM) Anyone else hearing the Sox are in the hunt for Greinke? I don't know what you can get out of this. Maybe wishful thinking, I don't know. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosen...,2797357.column

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 12:59 PM) I think they should consider bringing Pierre back. His .385 OBP v. righties would provide nice insurance for Viciedo and he'd come cheap. Deaza Pierre Youk Dunn Konerko Rios AJ Ramirez Beckham This is suppose to be a joke right?

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 01:24 PM) I f***ing hate college basketball. This thread got derailed like no other. Thank you!

Dunn is now the league leader in HRs. I'm happy that he has some success this season. They just need to have some guys on when he pops those.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 10:50 PM) I asked Fathom; why did you take the time to derail the thread? Don't let your sense of humor check out. I don't think the Sox have enough to get Dempster. I think teams will give up too much for him. I could see the Yankees getting him and giving him a contract. The more I think of it, the Sox are really impressive this year for a team that's strength is suppose t be pitching. There have been so many setbacks, it hard to believe where they are.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 10:21 AM) http://fancostexperience.com/pages/fcx/fci_pdfs/8.pdf However, when you look at the fall of nearly 30% in the average ticket price, I'm going to call BS on that one, with the dynamic pricing. Parking is 4th most expensive in the majors. Very surprised to see the Tigers, Twins, Cardinals and even the Astros ahead of us. Of the top teams, the White Sox had the biggest decrease of -13.8% (overall FCI), with the Dodgers at roughly -10%. That said, some of our season ticket holders and regular attendees and stub hub/dynamic ticket buyers probably have their own opinions on whether there legitimately has been such a marked decrease across-the-board. Seems like a bit of an accounting trick. And, by the way, the Marlins are in BIG trouble. Looking at those markets and/or teams, very surprised to see the Rangers, Braves, Angels, Padres and Diamondbacks all relatively affordable. Kansas City you can understand their increases because of the All-Star game and hype coming into 2012. Rockies, also in big-time trouble after having raised prices significantly. More like extreme BS. Brooks probably cane up with that propaganda.

QUOTE (soxmaniac! @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 04:05 PM) we lose this game 3-2 with ozzie Yawn.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 03:52 PM) Sox gotta away with the curveball call Mark it on the calendar. They don't get too many of those.

My hope is that someday they own teams like the Royals.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 11, 2012 -> 10:06 AM) What matters is the major league team, not who was drafted and who is fumbling around in the minors. And more often than not, Ozzie was given some really good teams that never played up to potential. I don't know about that. There is no accurate measurement of manager vs. player in that scenario. Maybe that was their potential. I guess if teams that had similar stats other than wins were in the post season, I can see that. I think it's real easy to blame everything on Ozzie that the team is doing well. The difference is there was no high expectations for the 2012 Sox.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 11, 2012 -> 10:03 AM) But look at all the players who KW was part of drafting that were hybrid baseball/football players or never taught how to play the game fundamentally well... You can blame it on the minor league staff, but drafting athletes and turning them into baseball players hasn't worked on the position player side. Beckham was supposed to be a "pure/natural/instinctive baseball player" and look where we're at with him. It's like he is either listening too much to others or he won't listen enough and he's stubborn, because you can't have a 15 homer guy striking out 150 times per season and not hitting well with RISP or advancing runners professionally. We've proven we can find pitching talent. And maybe Viciedo will become an All-Star. And maybe Hawkins or Barnum will make it, but we've always done better finding guys like Quentin and DeAza when they're with other organizations. It is fitting that Youkilis kind of represents something we've never been able to produce ourselves. High OBP. Patience. Ability to professionally work an at-bat and extend it. Clutch hitter. Granted, there aren't that many Youkilises out there...but it's almost like Morel was the anti-Youkilis in terms of patience and drawing walks. And yeah, we might produce a "grindy" infielder like an Aaron Miles or Chris Getz from time to time, but they're not impact players. And while a LOT of teams missed on Trout, it's ironic that we picked the high risk/high reward guy in Mitchell instead. (At least Mitchell's proven he can take a walk in 2012, there's that.) I like this post.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 09:12 AM) Hamels and Grienke will cost a great package of prospects. We do not have those prospects. I think Dempster is the best fit. However, I think Brandon McCarthy can help us out along the way as well. Wouldn't that be something? Danks is out so we bring in the pitcher we traded him for to help us get in the playoffs I think the Sox will get outbid on Dempster as well.

It looks like all 3 day games are blacked out at MLB. I wanted to watch Mets and Braves and a possible Tiger loss.

Don't worry, Coop will fix him.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 11:29 PM) Since the difference in the leagues is the DH, I don't get this sentence. Correct. Get this "pure baseball" s*** out of here. Pitchers don't practice hitting, don't give a s*** about hitting, and it's a joke at bat 99% of the time. Oh yay, he can bunt since there is a guy on! What great baseball strategy this is. How entertaining. It's just an automatic out and the strategy is working around everyone in front to get to the dead spot to end the inning and get out of a jam. That's just not quality baseball. Zambrano worked on his hitting. Zack Grienke is one of the best bunters in baseball. The Brewers actually used him to PH because he could lay down a bunt.