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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 11:12 PM) Two playoff appearances in eight years in a division that as far as recent history goes has been weak. Yet he's supposed to go to the NL east, a division that features two powerhouses in the Phillies and Braves, and "win big"? Minus the 2 powerhouses (Detoit and Cleveland seem to have better futures), sounds like a lateral move but there's still a better upside than here because expectations would be lower.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 04:23 PM) I'd prefer a "reporter" not be a mouth-piece for one particular side of the story and not continually insult the other side. That use to be more limited to political figures but since the emergence of 24 hour sports coverage sports journalism has regressed. There may be a bigger divide in communication between athletes and reporters that you see so many articles (Phil Rodgers) that are nothing but speculation.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 02:15 PM) Where the hell is JR in all of this? Take some action for once. How many years of this crap between Ozzie, Kenny, and Marty34 do we have to live through? Maybe JR believes there is no such thing as bad press.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 08:49 PM) Hey, we didn't get shut out! It would be annoying if they lost the game 2-1. Maybe the strategy was to tire the Tigers bats so the Sox can mow em down the next two.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 06:23 PM) Other than one year, Ozzie can't even win big here with more expensive and talented rosters than his divisional rivals most years. Since 2005, his teams have regularly underperformed. Why is he going to suddenly win big in Florida? I think being in the NL will help some, but he's going to make the same mistakes he's made here both off and on the field. The Marlins will have even less patience with him and once they let him go, that very well may be the end of his career as a MLB manager. What is it about this guy that has you completely blinded? I doubt it. They seem to have a better farm system and their budget probably rules out having situations like Peavy, Dunn and Rios. They don't win a lot of baseball games so the chances are possible of over achieving than under achieving. Just maybe the Sox aren't really that talented. Two of the people not performing are from the NL. Plus his loyalty to Walker is another downfall.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 08:26 PM) I meant over the course of the last three seasons. Well it doesn't matter. None of them are like MB. Thiose guys could win a lot of games pitching for the Red Sox or Yankees but who couldn't?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 08:22 PM) And that's been basically it. I can't think of a single game in which it was perceived as a "big" game against a quality opponent, post-all-star break, in which Danks shut a team down. I can say the same for Floyd as well. Wasn't it Floyd and Thome that beat the Twins in that 1 game playoff?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 07:47 PM) Well, Detroit does what "good" teams do at home when it's time to put away its rival. I take it you haven't watched much baseball in 5 years. It's more like the Sox go into mental midget, wet the bed, crap their pants, mode when facing their rivals. It's their trademark of the century. Chances were good losing to Verlander anyway. Losing 8-0 is no different than losing 3-2.

QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 07:39 PM) Why the f*** did Oz start Danks? He is the guy wanting a big payday. He might be a mental midget when it comes to big games.

QUOTE (sunofgold @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 06:24 PM) Going to have to chip away. Start by scoring a run! Or getting a hit or walk. lol! Hoping for some bad Det defense. Maybe they can get Verlander to throw with the other hand.

QUOTE (rowand's rowdies @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 08:34 PM) Ok so if Rios is 40 mil rowand is 12 thats 28 extra million for 3 years of rios for the giants. is he a 9 mil a year player absolutely not but if the sox can get that down to a 7 mil a year player would the giants be interested? i can see rios getting 3 years/21 from a dumb team on the market. ok i cant but the giants did sign tejada for almost 7 mil this offseason. I think the "dumb team" is already used up on him. There are no more and the Sox were the last.

QUOTE (bozzie @ Sep 1, 2011 -> 01:51 PM) He berated Kenny Williams into dumping a Hall of Famer who averaged .270, 37 home runs and 98 RBI in three years with the White Sox. And thus did Jim Thome move on. You do realize Thome's last year on the Sox was the option year and was making over $14M. I think he was getting $2M from the Twins. It would almost be disrespectful if the Sox offered Thome that same money. That was an awful lot of money wrapped up in a player that leaves you with very few options and was also having back problems. I still think it was a smart move financially and unfortunately his replacements didn't work out. His success last year had a lot do with how Gardenhire handled him. I don't think how he did as a Twin would translate to the same performance with the Sox especially with Ozzie as manager.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 1, 2011 -> 06:23 PM) 2 out of three I certainly agree with you on. Not certain about Rios as no players were involved, but we took on a lot of money for a failing player for sure. The trade for Hudson is a head scratcher and the trade period for Teahan made no sense to me at the time. We could have kept Juan Uribe for thirdbase if nothing else. Rios and Teahan are the reactions for failed prospects such as BA and Fields. Fields was replaced by Beckham which some argue was brought up too early. Then Teahen is replaced by Old man Omar. The farm system failed and who knows what you are going to get with Morel. I do think it is time to test a new hitting coach.

QUOTE (SI1020 @ Sep 1, 2011 -> 03:08 PM) The Chairman intervenes behind the scenes on a lot of issues and KW wanted Cito Gaston, not Ozzie. Which is odd since no one still wants Cito Gaston.

QUOTE (chisoxt @ Sep 1, 2011 -> 02:15 PM) No...the right'JR feel' is that he passes over Hahn for another candidate that no one esle has thought of. Given his love for LaRussa and the fact that Tony has got to be tired of managing, I wonder if the Chariman hires LaRussa for GM? An awful move, but something to consider. Which could point to JR being a bigger problem than Kenny or Ozzie. I have speculated that since KW took over, the farm system has gotten worse. That could also be JRs doing by being loyal to friends over competent people in areas of scouting and instruction. Which would bring us back to Kenny not being in charge.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Sep 1, 2011 -> 02:03 PM) So you honestly believe that KW has or had the authority to fire Ozzie and hasn't done so already? I think it's clear that Reinsdorf is not letting his GM have full control of a decision that should rightfully be his. Maybe money is the driving factor here, but I have no doubt in my mind that KW would hire a new manager if he could. Unfortunately, we now have to deal with his and Ozzie's bulls*** until Reinsdorf lets one or both of them go. That's not way it should work, and if KW had a power that most GMs have, we probably wouldn't be dealing with nonsense right now. So if you want force a veteran manager who also happens to be one of Reinsdorf's buddies on a rookie GM, then I hope you're willing to accept another manager having more influence in the organization than he should really have. I don't think it's clear at all. It's speculation fueled by fans and media.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 04:10 PM) Last years Twins team had the 5th best ERA in the AL and the 4th best bullpen ERA in the AL. This year's Tigers team has the 10th best ERA in the AL and the 11th best bullpen ERA. So yeah, if you added Verlander to last year's Twins team they'd have a great shot at the W.S., because that Twins team had a full pitching staff working their tails off around him. This year's Tigers team has Verlander and a bunch of weakness. Hell, that's the 11th bullpen ERA out of 14 and they're pitching in Comerica for crying out loud. Having an ace can be a big difference. Sure the Sox have 3 good starters but no ace. The Twins were always lacking one component that was always revealed in the post season. There offense numbers in 09/10 were nothing to laugh at either. I think in 09 they were the best in baseball hitting after 2 outs.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 04:48 PM) showed some fight after being in the hole. Back-to-back sweeps of the Twins? I must've been dreaming. But I'll live with 5 of the last 6 and hope that ozzie's blunders haven't dashed the mojo coming from that dugout. It's going to be tough to overcome 5 games in the loss column but there's still a lot of baseball left. Picking up one game this weekend doesn't feel like enough. Having a former CY set you back 6 runs before they get to swing a bat doesn't help. I was surprised they made it interesting. Too bad Dunn and Rios wouldn't volunteer to work with the hitting coach in Charlotte.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 03:59 PM) While I'll give props for his production, I tend to not like grumpy players. I'm not saying he's bad in the clubhouse since I'm not there. But i find it hard to believe he's helping the situation when it comes to team chemistry. And yeah, Rios has three years left on his contract. I'm trying to figure out where it started that CQ was a clubhouse cancer.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 03:53 PM) Because certain people actually understand how payroll and contracts work? And there are plenty of them that don't are in MLB.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 09:29 AM) KW just better pray that Stewart can be a #4 or 5 starter, as Hudson continues to look like he's going to be a #1 or 2 for a long time. He's probably more like a quality #3. A ? trade at the time that just looks bad. You could have retained a young arm where it looks like this organization might new one since there may be no Danks. I think it was you that pointed out getting Jackson because Kenny didn't want to trust an unproven pitcher in a race and now they have to trust Stewart.

QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 01:59 PM) I remember when people were pissed Kenny didn't sign him at 14 million a year or whatever... Maybe he should have traded most of the team when the market would be higher. I had no idea how many bad contracts the Giants have. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/08/gian...assignment.html

BTW, anyone notice how polished PK has become as a hitter? He's hitting to both sides of the field and does just as much damage without putting the ball in the seats. He should be a keeper.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 04:30 PM) Perhaps we'll get some off-day drama tomorrow - this festering boil on our team's ass is coming to a head and may explode soon. It won't be pretty. I'm hoping it gets to the point anyone outside the media cares.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 04:19 PM) How on God's green earth can Ozzie even think of hitting Dunn for Lillibridge is beyond me. If either one is on base, Lilli has a better chance of scoring from first.