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QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 29, 2011 -> 01:17 PM) Good article on the Dayan/Ozzie/Kenny situation with links in the story to more of the same. A must read. Are you referring to what Rodgers said? http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,7643230.story 2. Did the White Sox wait too long to play the Dayan Viciedo card? Probably, but Viciedo may have benefitted from their reluctance to throw him into the fire in June or July. His 2011 debut was impressive for more than just the single and long home run he hit in his first two at-bats. He walked in his third plate appearance -- matching the total of walks he had in his first 97 plate appearances last season. Viciedo has historically been one of those hitters scouts say will “swing at the rosin bag,’’ but appears to have greatly improved his patience at the plate after working with a combination of Greg Walker, Chris Chambliss, Jeff Manto and Tim Laker the last four years. He had only 13 walks to go with 103 strikeouts between Triple-A Charlotte and Chicago last season but in his second season at Charlotte offset 83 strikeouts with 45 walks, helping him improve his on-base percentage from .321 to .364.

Funny how writers such a Rodgers calls this a lucrative job. I can't see that at all. You have bad contracts. Then there's other things like the weather, cost of living, ect. that I wouldnt' consider it lucrative. The organization is so synonymous with losing that they are used in non sports documentaries with it comes to the word losing.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 29, 2011 -> 11:41 AM) looking at the pitching matchups this has Chicago White Sox sweep written all over it. Hope Sox fans get off their asses and show up to support this team (even if they don't support Kenny or Jerry or Ozzie or Walker or Oney). Then again guys with ERAs around 5 or 6 gives this team fits. Plus it's the Twins.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 26, 2011 -> 09:49 PM) Never thought I'd see the day that Olivo could hurt Peavy Beckham could hit off Peavy.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 25, 2011 -> 04:11 PM) Min wage vs millions is alot different. Not paying taxes vs. paying a lot of taxes.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 25, 2011 -> 07:39 PM) I'm joining the camp that Dayan isn't up because Kenny knows Ozzie won't play him. or hitters regress under Walker

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 24, 2011 -> 07:09 PM) Didn't realize about 80-85% of the GM's who've led their teams to the playoffs were doing in with their very first team. Interesting. http://www.csnchicago.com/08/22/11/Kaplan-...amp;feedID=8487 I heard a discussion on the SCORE about that. I guess Hahn is the highest paid asst. GM in baseball. So the reason why he hasn't been hired can be over money.

I'm surprised Peavy wasn't on the waiver wire.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 25, 2011 -> 12:23 AM) But I mean, what's a normal number? How does that 103 compare to like the Red Sox, Rays, or Pirates over that time? As far as I know, 103 could be in the middle of the pack. That's what I am talking about, I have no frame of reference to compare that number to. I was trying to find that out. That's a major league roster every year. I doubt the better teams have that high of a turnover.

QUOTE (mataipaepae @ Aug 24, 2011 -> 11:10 PM) Lets trade CQ and Thornton to Pittsburgh for Pedro Alvarez and some minor league players. Alvarez is a good fielder with a huge arm and big bat. What makes you think the Pirates will make that trade?

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 24, 2011 -> 11:31 PM) That means nothing to me without any reference. Players change, management the same, result the same.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 24, 2011 -> 11:04 PM) Just for fun, not a good last two days for Kenny Williams: - Hudson dominates and goes 8.2 innings and gives up 2 runs - De Los Santos gets a win - Brandon Allen hits two mammoth homers - Nick Swisher hits two homers - Jason Frasor picks up loss for Sox - Zach Stewart gets bombed by Angels Got this off a thread at WSI. According to Retrosheet.com the Sox have had a total of 103 players make an appearance in at least one game since the start of the 2007 season through Tuesday night.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Aug 24, 2011 -> 10:06 AM) I'd rather see Jim go someplace where he can win a title. Those teams already have someone better. Who in the NL wants a pinch hitter. I wish the Sox were a NL team. It fits the current manager and would prevent the current GM from making more mistakes.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 11:51 PM) Its the typical Guillen trait. Forget what he did last year, Ozzie had nothing to do with Thome leaving. Oney did the same thing. Last year when Kotsay hit his second homer and it helped the Sox win, Thome was riding pine in Minnesota and had 2 homers. Oney tweeted that it was obvious the "skipper" which is what he calls his dad, made the right choice. Oney also tweeted that although Thome was a nice guy, he really wasn't a winner. When "the choice" was clearly wrong, it went from 100 percent Ozzie Guillen's decision to Ozzie had nothing to do with it, blame Kenny Williams. Looks like Ozzie is going the same way. I believe there was over a $10M difference in pay from his last season with the Sox then on to the Twins. It wouldn't look good for the organization to cut his pay that much.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 11:13 PM) Lasorda is 200 He's not good either if you give him a crappy team.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 11:06 PM) I didn't do that this summer ... damn I was foolish. It's always fun to have that one week far away from the baseball world where you don't watch the White Sox and catch a score here and there. Don't punish the baseball world because of the Sox. There's an exciting race in the AL East. I'll probably take advantage of watching more of Verlander. The Sox and Rangers just made things more interesting in the AL West. There's still a race in the NL West. Plus it might be good to check out if the Phillies are that good having the most wins in baseball.

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 11:00 PM) Read somewhere the sox spend the least in the ML on the draft... That's one of the things that has to change, the whole structure in the org, the whole mindset You mean this ? http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...sp&c_id=mlb I read it and to me looking at both halves, spending more or less doesn't mean a thing. Getting the best scouts/instructors would be better use of resources.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:56 PM) Frasor is just awful. KW is very lucky that Stewart has been effective so far. Brutal job by Ozzie tonight of not bringing in Thornton to face Aybar, but who the hell cares now. I shall dub him Tony Pena II-the suckwell coming to a loss near you..

I don't f***ING get it! I don't. Why waste a fan's time and just forfeit instead of this typical mind f***!

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:40 PM) That's whiff 151. Won't be long til the whiff total eclipses the batting average. tough to do. He's simply awful. I was impressed he lasted that long. I thought it would take 4 pitches.

Frasor's enough to make you wish Pena was back.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:21 PM) So the game is tied in the bottom of the 8th and Ozzie thinks it's ok to use a pitcher for one out? C'mon, what if this goes 12 innings? Then it was a good move so he doesn't have the temptation of using the least effective guys late.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:19 PM) Here's where I will wonder why Sale or Thornton aren't being used when we simply can't afford to lose another game to the Tigers. I would have tried to get another inning out of MB.

After the 7th inning it looks like this team wants to go home.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 09:59 PM) I'm not ready to say we can't contend next year just cause Rios and Dunn are on the roster. The biggest concern though is the gigantic public relations issue the Sox easily might face this offseason if Buehrle leaves and fan favorites like Quentin/Danks are traded just to ease payroll concerns while fan "non-favorites" like Dunn and Rios stay on the team. I think trying a new hitting coach wouldn't hurt either.