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Nice outing by Humber. It's the 7th so this game is over.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 08:39 PM) The classic Strike-em-out, throw-em-out double play. We're getting creative. Note to Alexi: You're suppose to swing at pitches in the zone.

I think PK has a better chance of a SB than Pierre. He must be doing something that's giving it away. It's not even close when he's thrown out.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 08:36 PM) Oh my goodness. This game is so boring that I'm watching a JonBenet Ramsey made for TV movie on Lifetime. I demand somebody to beat the hell out of me.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 08:25 PM) Remember when Gordon was supposed to be the next great 2B of the upcoming decade? That was before he had enough exposure to Greg Walker. How long will it take before he ruins De Aza? Imagine if the Sox got Rasmus. All of the players would probably want to work with his father.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 11:45 AM) Except if we started the season with Santos as our closer, we might not have had that 4-18 stretch that buried our season right off the bat and killed any fan enthusiasm for the Sox this season. That and feeling confident Morel was ready to play everyday. A 25-3 stretch could have righted that ship but a winning streak like that is an anomaly. 3rd base has been a disaster since Crede. Two seasons in a row of replacing the opening day 3rd baseman. The usual piss poor hitting exposed Uribe and that he was going to make $4M on an option made him expendable. I still miss Juan. This team probably wouldn't look so lifeless if he was here.

QUOTE (T R U @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 10:41 AM) I don't buy that at all We had plenty of pieces that could have been moved had Kenny wanted to throw in the towel Players get traded all of the time that are not on the trading block. Do you think Kenny hangs up the phone if a GM is interested in Sale? He listens to the offer. Plus you don't want to throw in the towel "Astros Style".

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 12:53 PM) Guys of his age tend to either stay put (with a successful franchise) or jump ship to a ready-made contender. The White Sox are most-certainly not going to be the latter in 2012. This is a different situation.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 07:39 AM) Except much more aggressive in using bullpen matchups. Which might not be the worst thing ever. Oh, and he also has had a much larger clubhouse alcohol issue. I really didn't like Tony's choice of batting coach either. No wonder Mr. Rasmus was concerned about his son.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 01:55 PM) ESPN is usually pretty thorough. They are?

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 01:13 PM) It's never fun-bad when you invest thousands of dollars into a team each season. I agree. I'm starting my own personal Alex Rios boycott. If he is in the lineup, I'll watch some other team.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 01:52 PM) BUT OZZIE AND RONGEY SAID ONE PLAYER DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!1111!!1!!!!11!! They must be newcomers to this organization. I guess they never heard of a guy named Frank Thomas.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 02:01 PM) We have to learn how to develop. Aint gonna happen unless JR makes some changes. It's not just the GM but scouts and coaches.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 10:02 PM) At least we can all move on with the rest of our summer now. Can anyone recommend another team to take a casual interest in? I'm finding it really tough to watch a Sox game anymore.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 11:50 PM) Feel free to comment, you'll get mostly civil discussion (I can't vouch for everyone). I think this site is losing that. Since we can't really say much more we find ways to indirectly insult certain members.

'Get out of here you Mexican.' doesn't seem like something that would come from Soxtalk. It definitely doesn't paint of positive picture and is really stupid since Ozzie is from Venezuela. That kind of comment would be at least a 6 month ban at WSI.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/MLB-inv...80311?gt1=39002 Check out the comments. He is not doing a Pete Rose and betting on baseball so what is the big deal? The guy is playing poker and that has nothing to do with baseball. As bad as I hate the Yankees and anyone playing for them I must say Bud Selig is wrong in this one. People have to live too.

What does anyone think if the rumor of LaRussa taking over in 2012 becomes a reality? What coaches are retained? I'm assuming Cooper will keep his job since Duncan is still under contract to 2013. As for Walker, you never know. He did play under Larussa for a short time. BTW there are 63000 links in google about Larussa managing the 2012 White Sox. Rumor has it Tony would be an interim and then move to the front office.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 10:52 PM) Other than : Mis-reading balls off the bat Taking incorrect routes Acquiescing to infielders on CF plays Pulling up short on the warning track (fear of the wall) Mis-timing jumps at the wall Overthrowing the cutoff man Throwing to the wrong base allowing runner to advance, ......he's doing great out there. I think they are making sure Viciedo doesn't make those mistakes and that's why he's not up here yet.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 05:08 PM) It is a real concern that is completely glossed over by the melt it down crowd. Even after a minimal move like the Jackson deal, there were already people starting to talk about White Flag trades. Because of the history of this organization, you can't sell off everything, and expect people to show up. I'm not even talking about the 10% drop. I am talking about a massive drop off. If we sold off completely the season ticket base would drop by a large percentage, as would the payroll. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to have seen a $70 to $75 million payroll in 2012. In our case that would mean Dunn, Rios, and maybe Konerko somehow. That number would death spiral until our farm system started producing. Which if you are talking about a real turnover, you would be talking about 3 to 5 years, if it worked. I couldn't trust this organization as it is now to do a rebuild in 5 years.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 05:13 PM) I still go back & forth on it. He has had a bad year managing, but I still like him and think he can be a good manager. And it's not like KW has handed him a full deck to work with. Ozzie's worst move may be holding on to Greg Walker. There's a pattern that is too consistent with the lineup every year that indicate a change needs to be made. There's also players from other organizations that seem to get worse under Ozzie since 2007. Things aren't clicking anymore.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 07:52 AM) Seems to me from his reaction to the first question that now he wants an extension beyond 2012. Who in their right mind would want to manage this team?

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 10:19 PM) WHY do you people argue who is worse, honestly? They are both not very good, and they both ought to be fired. Does anybody disagree that they both should be fired? Well if Walker was in this poll the thread would die on the first page.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 10:09 PM) They both have had a couple bad years, will need some time off, but will both get jobs and have a chance to succeed. Not bad years, just bad moves. Those can have a lasting impact.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 10:03 PM) He'd be offered a manager spot by the Marlins. That's it. No where else would TOUCH Ozzie. The Atlanta Braves wanted Ozzie per Steve Stone.