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QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jun 20, 2011 -> 08:20 PM) Oh its logical for him. Each year he burns the farm down to go for his small percentage all in he kills the franchise a bit more for long term success. The economics of a medicore team, poor attendance, and a high payroll with large unmoveable contracts turns us into the cubs for a few years. I think we are already there.

QUOTE (almagest @ Jun 20, 2011 -> 08:12 PM) Mostly I think it's that the Cubs have an awful offense. The trademark of a Chicago baseball team.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 20, 2011 -> 07:58 PM) Teahen should never, ever start a game, especially at 3B. #1 Reason why I think Williams should be gone.

I tend to agree with Rongey on this. You see it in other sports. There's no logic in the economic world of sports, especially baseball.

QUOTE (IowanSoxFan @ Jun 19, 2011 -> 04:36 PM) I don't want to know where we would be without PK. I'm sure the DBs would like him. He seems to hit well there.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 18, 2011 -> 04:58 PM) The MLB first year player draft began in 1965. Prior to 1965, there was open free agency for high school and college players. So, the biggest boys got the best players - the Yankees, Dodgers, Giants, and Cards. Veeck, known for his frugality, couldn't really get the top young guys prior to '65, either. Veeck owned the team the second time from 1976-1980. Steve Trout (1976 #10) and Harold Baines (1977 #1) were good. No pick in 1978, Steve Buechele (1979 #9 - Did not sign) Rick Seilheimer (1979 compensation), and Cecil Espy (1980 #8) really weren't. Ross Baumgarten (1977 20th rnd), and Britt Burns (1978 third rnd) are the only other non 1st rnd draft picks from 1976-1980 that even sniffed the roster as a member of the Sox. I don't see how this is better than what KW has done. Try the next decade. Veeck set that up.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 11:19 PM) If Kenny traded Viciedo SoxTalk would blow up, literally Unless they got someone like Pujols with a contract extension.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 11:12 PM) The longer he stays in AAA, the more he looks like a trade chit when Kenny goes all in. Logic would have him up by now. The only reason to keep him down pounding the crap out of the ball is to max his value without risking damaging it by bringing him up. Maybe they want to be more careful handling this guy. Frank Thomas believed Beckham was brought up too soon, maybe Sale would be better off in the minors now. Maybe they don't want to make the same mistake with Vic.

If you look at it from an economic view the trade was bad. You could still have Hudson while Jackson could be gone next season. On the other side of the fence, Diamond backs fans are never at ease with Hudson on the mound because he gets rocked early. I must admit it was funny watching Hudson crush that ball.

QUOTE (Andrew @ Jun 18, 2011 -> 12:35 AM) Well, I see Ozzie is still not fired and we still have Walker teaching people how not to hit when there's RISP, or how to bunt (which is gay as s*** anyway and should be easy), or pretty much anything that would be effective in an offensive capacity (opposite field hits, sac flies, etc.) Hardest working "coach" in baseball, though (per Ozzie), so more of the same. And by same, I mean losing with a "1" on the scoreboard. We must lead ALL of MLB with that s***. Go Sox - It's the players, not the coaches, etc.... yeah, right, whatever. Same ole s*** - I'll check in again in 2 more months to point out the same problems. Replace "Ozzie" with "Gardenhire" and this is what many Twins fans have wrote in the 2nd week of October with the addition of Mauer being a waste of money.

QUOTE (Real @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 02:51 PM) thats not how it works in the big leagues, the only realistic option we can hope for is Pierre either traded, or we package Teahen in a deal with Edwin or another of our starting pitchers, we bench Pierre for the rest of the year, and Viciedo is our new LF No way in hell this team flat out releases Pierre Unfortunately not all GMs are naive unless it's garbage for garbage. The difference here is that's very expensive garbage.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 01:28 PM) How hard is it to get rid of Pierre? You tell him to pack up his s*** and have security escort him out. I have this theory that in professional sports that have guaranteed contracts, salary has a lot to do with playing time. Their economic rule is more important that winning. That's probably why you will never see Rios benched for any considerable time. You see it in the NFL with 1st round busts always existing and playing to the length of their contract that are not QBs.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 08:49 AM) Just like how if the Sox lose, I hope Pierre goes 0-5, I'm of the opinion that if the Sox aren't going to make the playoffs, I'd rather they win 65 games and get a top 3 pick and get Ozzie out of here. Would you really trust this organization with a top 3 pick?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 09:03 AM) Excellent post caulfield. Werd!

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 08:25 AM) Excellent post! I still don't get how you can blame KW for Rios, Dunn and Beckham. He's not out there swinging the bat. And there was so much enthusiam on this board when Dunn was signed. People wanted to kiss KW's pinky ring. Now some of those same people want him fired. Other find it easy to blame Kenny. Everyone knows the book on Rios, so he gambled. As for Beckham, he might have benefited with more time in the minors. He may have been brought up too soon because of the failed Josh Field experiment. You have to wonder if having Sale in the pen is more harmful to his career than spending some time in the minors.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 08:24 AM) But I guess since we sucked in the 70s I should feel better about the terrible drafting, youth development, personnel decisions, and in-game managing that we have seen under the Kenny/Ozzie era. Veeck new he could never win in the free agent game so he decided to put his money in development. This is where changes need to be made but I wouldn't be surprised this organization will be stuck with waisting money on hit and miss free agents because of their hit and miss drafting and development.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 10:25 PM) Arizona needs a good leadoff hitter, Kuhn could get on base in front of Chris Young. Their leadoff hitter has 86 Ks this season.

Well hopefully someone other than the Twins will win this division. It will spare their fans the annual misery in the 2nd week of October.

I'm going to be at that game. A friend of my brother had some nice tickets he couldn't use. I think we are going to be 7 rows from the field.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 03:54 PM) Peavy would get hurt in the fight, but boy, he really put in a heck of an effort and after the game, he said he gave it his best. Meanwhile, Juan went to hit someone with a bat but squared up to bunt instead. I'd rely on the pitchers. We know most of the players are not dangerous with a bat.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 01:50 PM) I don't normally condone it, but I think they need to start a brawl with the Twins and kick the ever loving s*** out of them to prove that they are actually superior and stronger. As of right now, it's all a mentality, and that starts with the manager. I'll place $10 on the Twin kicking their asses physically as well. I hate posts like this. Please stop.

QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 01:56 PM) Nothing has changed (except we are worse this year against Detroit) I don't know how to explain it. This also happened with a different manager and players. They are the Twin's b****. Always will be.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 15, 2011 -> 07:47 PM) Because the sox ought to have that reputation now. If Cooper can't fix a pitcher, no one can. Most of Coop's fixes are short term. Yet he is treated like a legend.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 15, 2011 -> 08:53 PM) The Sox are just mentally weak. There is no other explanation. Bingo! It will stay that way when you also aquire players from losing organizations. The mental midgets have returned.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jun 13, 2011 -> 12:18 PM) Definitely guilty of Lillibridge, and I still don't see him as a starter (he's on a hotstreak and you've got to see it out though). He might be the next Kotsay. When you start to have faith in him...........he returns to his norm or below it.