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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 11:00 PM) Twins finished 2/17 with RISP. The ? now among fans is Mauer can't show up for the big games. He didn't in game 163 against the Sox. In his defense, there were other players on that team driving in runs this season.

QUOTE (logic101 @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 11:04 PM) Lou Piniella has to be shaking his head...he went 3 and out twice and became public enemy #1... Not in Chicago.

Sound familiar? http://www.clubtwins.com/twins-discussion/...ason-t1766.html I think Gardy somehow projects defeat to his team when it comes time to play the Yankees and the team always picks up on it over the years. Plus they are just better but I don't understand the total domination. Any other coach in any other sport in any other town would not still have a job They love "macho" baseball. http://www.clubtwins.com/twins-discussion/...hrow-t1754.html My guess is nobody. We will continue to let opposing teams throw at our heads with no consequence. Sounds like a WSI take. (interesting) The Yankees have been pushing the Twins around for 10 years. Nobody has ever once stood up for themselves. Let them know you mean business and you aren't gonna back down. http://www.clubtwins.com/twins-discussion/...gain-t1764.html Interesting forum. Gardenhire's their goat. Gardy vs. Flip thread is funny.

QUOTE (elgonzo4sox @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 08:06 PM) They have an interesting decision to make: do they resign Thome? If they can get him for the same amount of money, why not? I think with Thome, he loves the game more than money since he's got enough of it.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 08:11 PM) I hope the f***ers stand pat. That's why Johann Santana wanted out. Which makes me bring up another subject. Some guys that leave the Twins organization don't have the best careers after that. Sure there's a few but how many guys on that roster would be great on another team?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 09:15 PM) The Twins were 0/13 with RISP last time I checked. Every single comparison between Yankees-Twins and Twins-Sox works. I just wish the Sox didn't fold to KC, Clev, Balt.

QUOTE (elgonzo4sox @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 09:27 PM) Good post. I hope this latest sweep by the Yankees weighs on the Twins psyche all winter and into next year. Like the previous ones.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 08:22 PM) I guess a lot of the stories in the NY papers have been about the 2004 collapse against Boston and the fact that the Yankees have never advanced and won the World Series when they came in as the Wild Card. Haha. I thought that would be the end of Torre but it wasn't.

This is the only series I've liked so far.

QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 07:56 PM) Here's a link to one of their boards. Was curious if they are in the same range of disgustedness in their post seasons against the Bronx, as we are in the way play the Twins in the regular season! Club twins / Twins Talk It will probably be child's play compared to what you would read from New Yawk fans if the Yankees don't win the World Series.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Oct 9, 2010 -> 07:55 PM) Still the division's best rotation: We heard that one before. They were the division's biggest paper tiger.

It will be interesting to see what the Twins organization does in the off season. Hopefully it doesn't involve getting PK.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Oct 8, 2010 -> 01:40 PM) Losing Quentin and Konerko and replacing them with Crawford does not sound like a good idea. I love the people that say the White Sox are cheap yet they can have a $100M while being cheap. Do they want Crawford, I am sure they do. Will they overpay to get him, no. Will Sox fans be pissed that they did not overpay, yes. I am really glad they did not sign Hunter, Fukodome and Alphonso Soriano, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt. Hudson for Jackson, getting Manny is not something cheap teams do. Kenny crying poor is getting old. I wouldn't be too shocked if they did spend a little more money and give this group one more shot. I like that the Sox don't like long term contracts. The Sox offered Fukadome more money than the Cubs but he wanted to play at Wrigley. Cub fans are still waiting.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 7, 2010 -> 04:50 PM) Good. I thought you were being serious. Otherwise I wouldn't have said anything. And I honestly don't think there's a 'best' team in the AL. All 4 teams have legitimate flaws. I think the Rays are a really good team. But since that freakish 32-12 start, they've been rather ordinary. Their offense is average at best (maybe even below average) outside of Crawford/Longoria. And their rotation is nothing to get loud about after Price and Garza (the latter being wildly inconsistent). They do have a great bullpen, though. It makes one wonder how they managed to win all of those games. So far they are the biggest post season disappointment.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 8, 2010 -> 11:38 AM) With regard to Ozzie, I don't think he's ever been on the hot seat. Neither has Kenny.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Oct 8, 2010 -> 10:23 AM) RIGHT!!! I was thinking the same thing. I can't believe twins fans are complaining like that. I can. A fan base gets spoiled after winning nothing but divisions. I've read things like "it's time for Tom Brady to go", "fire Bill Polian". The mighty always fall in the home town. I doubt Bobby Cox, Tony La Russa, are as well liked in Atlanta and St. Louis. Fans always see that someone on the outside is a lot better than the inside. On the other hand winning it all buys you a lot of grace. There is no killer instinct in them and there is no player on that squad to push them. The Twins losing to them is all a mental mind game. The Twins fear the Yankees, no matter who's wearing the uniform Sounds familiar.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 8, 2010 -> 04:25 AM) The trouble was that they seemed to be waiting for the Yankees to hand them an opening as opposed to the Twins creating their own opportunities. Why wouldn't the Twins be thinking that after all that is what Chicago had provided them much of the year in virtually every big game they played. The Yankees are hardly the White Sox. They don't give teams those chances in the playoffs. The Yankee's have scored 8 runs in the later innings compared to 2 for the Twins. You don't need to look any farther then that. It is perfectly appropriate to challenge that culture of waiting patiently for the Yankees make a mistake. Teams that take that approach are not going to advance in the playoffs. from startribune.com message board I also read somewhere that the Twins have something approaching a sub .200 record after clinching their 6 AL Central division championships...so a lot of fingers are being pointed at Gardenhire now for letting the foot off the pedal and playing their Rochester roster instead of flying into the post-season with momentum. I don't think you'll ever again see the Twins having a clinching champagne celebration until they actually win another post-season series. And lots of questions why the Pohlad family didn't have the cajones to bring in Cliff Lee as their "proven" #1 starter when they were rolling in positive cash flow and the Rangers and Hicks were technically bankrupt. Many Twins' fans also feel they have no leaders on the team (see 2005 Sox examples like Rowand, Everett, AJ and Crede)...that this has been something lacking on the team since Hunter left and arguably Puckett/Hrbek/Morris/Gladden/Gaetti, etc. Too bad you didn't have a link to that board. I wouldn't be too surprised if the ownership bought in that the current team was good enough to win it all. They don't have a true ace. Great offensive numbers but they are in the bottom half of the league in HRs. Maybe you need those things more in the postseason. There's a blog on there about Mauer. He's a sucker for inside pitches. That's what the Yankees gave him. That's why he's been ineffective. The readers comments from the blogs would be identical to most Sox forums. Just replace Ron Gardenhire with Ozzie Guillen and you have recreated Soxtalk and WSI.

QUOTE (WHITESOXRANDY @ Oct 8, 2010 -> 12:13 PM) I'd be willing to bet that Crawford wouldn"t sign with the Sox even if they were the highest bidder. Most players follow the money.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 7, 2010 -> 08:01 PM) Really though...that team on paper is good enough......They're a mental block away. Sounds like another team I know.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 6, 2010 -> 11:23 PM) I think we learned from this past year that the on paper the staff may look great, but they are as streaky as they come. and how bad the NL is.

QUOTE (Cali @ Oct 7, 2010 -> 07:39 PM) Maybe now people will stop blowing the Twins so much on the site. They're only "AL Central good"... They were the best team in baseball since the ASB. When teams get hot they also cool off. So their timing could be off plus they are few missing pieces away from a World Series.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Oct 7, 2010 -> 07:13 PM) From 2007-09, there were 12 series played in the first round of the playoffs. Eleven of them started out with a team taking a 2-0 lead. This season, two of the four series have started out with a team taking a 2-0 lead. It's amazing how boring the first round of the playoffs has been. As a baseball fan, I just want to see a competitive series once in awhile. I think a Twins/Rays series would have been better (for the Twins too).

QUOTE (Cali @ Oct 7, 2010 -> 07:34 PM) They are so good and clutch and come up lucky on flukes plays all season long and just straight up FALL APART in the post season...how ridiculous haha That's because teams like the Yankees don't make a lot of mistakes for the Twins to capitalize on.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 7, 2010 -> 07:24 PM) Buster Olney also got a boner when the word "Twins" was mentioned. He ranked their offense over the Yankees' at the start of the year...lol I guess there's some things that get exploited more in the post season. They really don't have an ace and Thome is their long ball threat.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Oct 7, 2010 -> 07:02 PM) They were 15-20 against the AL East. Don't know why so many people felt this was Minnesota's year. Peter Gammon's did. Twins can't overcome the Yankees. Nothing new in that.