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QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 02:56 PM) Ha, I meant that as I don't think we'll sell until the deadline now. So you think we'll risk letting Shark make the start on Tuesday?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 10:00 PM) Don't say that. You'll hurt everyone's feelings who thinks they are the greatest fans ever. We may not have the largest fan base around, but the fans we do have are, in fact, great. The fact they support this club at all with the crappy teams they've been subjected to over the last 55 years supports that claim. Perhaps you could focus your contributions to the discussion on the reason for all of those poor teams, which is the ineffectual ownership and management over those 55 years, and less on bashing White Sox fans every chance you get.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 06:32 PM) Puig is so much more electric then Abreu (from marekting perspective). Puig isn't just exciting at the plate (like Abreu), he is exciting in the field (both good and bad) and on the basepaths. Puig is one of those rare guys you stop and watch because of what he can do on the field (again, both good and bad). Sounds exactly like the type of talent a team dead last in TV ratings and practically at the bottom in attendance desperately needs.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 08:35 PM) Why is Duke up? Put up Jennings and let him pitch the 9th if Q gets in trouble Why don't we just go bat crazy here and see if we can't witness Q's first complete game AND shutout of his career,,all at once!

Lol - I like watching the intentional walk on the pitch trax!

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 08:16 PM) Runs!!! Runs for Q!!

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 07:02 PM) Clearly its the inherently poor character of White Sox fans that is the root of all the problems. It's this schmickle fickle klickle fan base of ours, dontcha know. They will make any excuse - ANY! - not to watch or attend bad baseball. What's wrong with them!

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 08:11 AM) Somebody posted that the Orange line didn't have a stop at Roosevelt until years later. When the City of Chicago wanted to build the stadium for the White Sox in the South Loop, one of the things involved in the negociations was the adding of a el station at that location. The White Sox would have had to contribute to the cost of the station. JR refused to help pay for that train station. That helped break down the talks between the City and JR. Never made any sense to me what JR did. Every marketing study I have ever seen has shown that 20% of White Sox attendance comes via public transportation. I'm convinced more and more that no matter what the City offered JR he was going to refuse their offers because he wanted to have the stadium built in Addison on land that he owned. If the stadium had been built in Addison I don't know if JR would of owned the stadium. But I do know he owned that land. He wound up selling that land for $9 million dollars. My final comment on this subject is that for most of my life the White Sox ownerships were always talking about a new stadium for the White Sox going back as far as 1967. I never ever thought the new stadium would be built in the same area as the old stadium. I think JR screwed up big time, and the franchise and White Sox fan base has suffered because of it. No tears will be shed on my part when he is no longer running the White Sox. He had a stadium built where it should not have been built and he built a stadium where nobody wants to sit in the upper deck. Jerry Reinsdorf made a series of bungling decisions in the '80s that crippled this franchise and adversely impact it to this very day.

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 12:59 PM) Location doesn't matter. Sorry. This team wins -- they show up. They lose, they don't. No matter how you try to slice the pie it's the same. I'd like to hear the argument how its easier to get to Wrigley than Comiskey. If I'm coming from the suburbs and driving, I'd rather go to Comiskey. If I'm taking the Metra? Sox Win. If I'm taking the El it's a wash. If we are complaining about the area of the ballpark the only thing that's true is that there hasn't been enough development to the IMMEDIATE surrounding areas of the park. Bars/shops/etc. I'm not talking a few blocks away, I'm talking like within a quarter mile. I just recently got the chance to start going to a few other ballparks and all that I've gone too have a nice feel around the ballpark. Minus the Royals. Winning team + interesting area surrounding the ballpark = people showing up Losing team + interesting area surrounding the ballpark = people showing up (see Cubs) Winning team + non-interesting area surrounding the ballpark = people showing up Losing team + non-interesting area surrounding the ballpark = people NOT showing up (see most of past half century with the White Sox)

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 12:17 AM) I would love the Sox main focus over the course of the next three years (since they always talk about a the year window) to be infrastructure as they just worry about building up the organization's talent base through the minors. Lol - hold it! "The next three years"? That would make the current three year plan a four year plan. No kicking the can down the road! This is sort of the KW approach in many ways, come to think of it. When things aren't going well, to all of a sudden start telling us about "three year boards" and now "three year plans" in an effort to get us to take our eye off the current sad state of affairs and focus on some promised land, which is always somehow three years away. The current plan is to "maximize the window of opportunity" with the current core, so let's just see it through. We are more than half way through the first year of that maximization approach, and obviously we have not maximized anything, other than to demonstrate how bad a major league team can look on both offense and defense. But between this year's trade deadline and the upcoming offseason's activity we should have a much better idea as to how well the Sox really are going to take advantage of having the current core around. We shall see!

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 09:27 PM) Who are they going to fire? Is there any chance that JR gets fed up with this s***? How about being fed up with JR? I know I am.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 08:28 PM) The vast majority of fans go in for the fame, and then leave after the game. Does the neighborhood really matter? Because it's by a super highway with 4-8 lanes each direction, I will be home in less than 30 minutes. And if I was taking the cta or metra, not much longer. I don't see how Addison or the south loop make a difference. Maybe some day when we have a new owner, a new management team, a different philosophy and approach on how to run this organization leading to better on-the-field results, an invigorated fan base and much better attendance, these logistical advantages will be optimally leveraged. Until the aforementioned happens, however, expect more of the same that we've seen over the past 35 years.

Year 1 of the Great 3 Year Plan.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 08:34 PM) There is a reason Jim Thompson made the deal with Harold Washington that cemented this location as the sox home. Other "sexier" locations had major problems. And a lot had to do with the Bears flat out refusing to get a stadium with the sox. Soldier field has probably the nicest location, but is a war zone on game days traffic wise. the south loop has major access problems TODAY, let alone with a ballpark on Clark st. It's still not a desirable location, and the test for that is how well the Sox draw in seasons when they don't win. Sadly, the Sox have put their fans to that test way too many times throughout the years, as the paltry 5 playoff appearances in the last 55 years would attest. So lo those many years when the Sox weren't good enough to get into the playoffs, and the myriad dismal attendance years to go with that, tells you loudly and clearly there is nothing about that location, absolutely nothing, outside a winning product on the field, that interests people. Period.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 08:12 PM) The top ten attendance year for the sox are at 333 w 35th st. They only drew 2 million or more fans twice at the old park. Stop. Just stop. Even remotely suggesting this location is ideal is beyond silly. That dog won't hunt. Having ideal "logistics", as you correctly point out, and a desirable location are two very different things. Our routine abysmal attendance with all of those ideal logistics in place bears that out.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 07:00 PM) As good as it can given the crap on the field. I meant for the 115 years we've been here.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 06:39 PM) No. Other. Site. In. Chicago. Or. The. Burbs. Offers. The. Logistical. Advantages. That. 35th. And. The. Dan. Ryan. Offers. Superhighway. THREE rail lines. 7 THOUSAND parking spaces. Find me a spot that can do all that. And. How. Has. This. Spot. Been. Working. Out. For. Us.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 21, 2015 -> 09:49 PM) Maybe Jerry will learn something from the Bears if they manage to start turning things around. Going outside to bring in help was never their strong suit but pressure finally forced their hand. It's been 35 years. If he hasn't learned it by now....

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 21, 2015 -> 03:57 PM) I got the impression that the article was suggesting a wholesale sea-change as an organization, not a hatchet job on Kenny. The facts illustrated don't lie: drop in attendance, inability to produce a consistent winner and a lack of accountability due to a misguided sense of loyalty. Sure, Kenny sits near the top. But the guy who's really responsible is Jerry Reinsdorf. And if he's anything like the old people in my family, the older they are the more difficult change becomes. Great read, Lip Bingo! The buck stops on the Chairman's desk.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 02:26 PM) Personally I think the bigger "what if?" was what would have happened to the Sox had Edward DeBartolo been allowed to buy the team from Veeck. That's who Bill had a deal with until MLB refused to approve it. Reinsdorf and Einhorn weren't Bill's first choice and he always felt they were forced on him. DeBartolo wound up buying the 49'ers where they won four Super Bowls. Mark A HUGE "what if?" for this franchise. If not for the petty politics of the MLB owners back then who simply didn't want Mr. DeBartolo to be a member in their little club, we would have actually had the kind of owner these past 35 years worthy of a large market team. The kind of owner who wouldn't subject his fan base to the "Can't spend a dollar when you only have fifty cents" mentality. He had the resources to run this organization the way a large market team ought to be run, and based on his results with the 49ers, I think it's pretty certain the results of the past 35 years would have been far greater than those under the Reinsdorf ownership group. They certainly couldn't have been much worse.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 18, 2015 -> 10:29 PM) Greg, I'm pretty sure you are going to be disappointed. Samardzija will get traded. Maybe even Alexei. I'd be shocked if Robertson, Melky, or LaRoche go anywhere though. Chairman wants to win in 2016 Lol - as opposed to what? Not wanting to win in 2016? Give me a break. Not to mention, but if "Chairman" is hanging his hat on the likes of Melky and LaRoche (one year older, btw) to fulfill this yearning of his next year, well, how's that working out for him so far in 2015?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 01:39 PM) Given that the Cubs are seeing a big surge in ratings this year after low numbers last year, I think we can point to a much more effective way to get those ratings up. Ha! Good point!

All of this on the heels of that article the other day showing the Sox essentially last in baseball in TV ratings. As much as I personally love Hawk & Stoney together (and I think they've made great strides in the past couple of years to come together to produce a quality broadcast), there have got to be changes in the TV booth coming down the pike with horrible ratings like these to shake things up a bit.

JB = "J"ust "B"eautiful!!

Wait, you can be a manager on the Cubs without being...an ex-Cub and/or...a personal favorite of Tom Ricketts? Wow - how radical!