Thad Bosley

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:46 PM) Nope, just tired of all the overzealous rage around these boards when we dont call up, or trade for a f***ing PROSPECT. some of the people around here, I think their worlds would come crumbling down around them if Viciedo came up and ended up no better than Juan Uribe, without the defense I love prospects, but I love proven major leaguers a hell of a lot more. But you can continue thinking I'm only here to dismiss our minor leaguers as nobodies with no future Please keep missing the point I'm making, because that's the only way you can continue with these ridiculous f***ing responses to my posts Now why on earth would I think you were here to do just that!

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 08:07 PM) Dude, De Aza had a f***ing .876 OPS in AAA, Josh Fields was a AAA stud. 1. SOME, BUT NOT ALL (OBVIOUSLY) Prospects bust. That's why they're called prospects, and not major leaguers. 2. I never said Viciedo will bust. I said he could bust. Next First of all, FIXED. "Next" would hopefully result in you cease and desisting on constantly being so negative around here. Geesh! Viciedo and De Aza appear to be living up to their potential by lighting it up there down in Charlotte this year, and ALL you can talk about is the possibility of each of them being a bust up here at the Major League level. Not the probability of either of them bringing forward their progress - nooooo, you would never think to talk about that - but simply the possibility of them "busting" out. Thanks so much for the shot of positive thought there, as usual. Glass is always 1/4 full with you, isn't it! Lol! (I would be remiss if I didn't add that signature and gratuitous phrase of yours!)

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 06:58 PM) Because he had a productive 100 AB doesn't really mean anything. The league won't even get to attempt to make legitimate adjustments to you with that small of a sample size He could end up busting, just like Beckham has (yeah, I went there) So all of this continual progress by Viciedo ever since we signed him, along with the fact that he is absolutely dominating AAA ball this year, and you are talking about "busting"? What is it with you sometimes!!

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:56 AM) one person mentions colby rasmus and all of the sudden the entire board, most which had little to no idea who Rasmus even WAS goes apes***, lol group think mob mentality here at Soxtalk But you did, no doubt. Lol

I'm excited to see what De Aza can do, now given this opportunity. Based on his skill set, if he plays well, he could be the heir apparent to the lead-off man role for next year.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 08:44 AM) I think I will wait until we know the actual trade details for sure, like who the minor leaguer(s) is/are, before jumping off a cliff. Also, let's see what else KW is doing here. But if the trade is in a vacuum, and the prospect is worth nothing... then yeah, that's garbage. "And on the other hand, maybe this is the most opportune time to turn over the entire roster and get some young, exciting players in here and go that route." With all of that said, I don't see how he can make this deal without this so-called "prospect" being at least somewhat "exciting", but we shall see!

I think it would be something akin to gross negligence on the part of Sox management not to at least give him a shot at starting and see what we might have there. And if it doesn't work out, well then, you just put him back in the 'pen again. Simple as that!

That at-bat said it all about one Alex Rios.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 08:23 PM) sell off what? Rios and Dunn are the contracts that are destroying this team (And Peavy's) sell off the contracts that are actually helping the team, and keep the trash? this makes no sense. Yep!

QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 07:59 PM) Overuse - Which would have been the word to describe Guillen's use of Danks tonight had he followed your advice and let the guy who just came off the disabled list try and finish tonight's ballgame.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 07:46 PM) Insurance run, please...? Maybe next inning?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 02:28 PM) I'm with you on that. I'd actually cancel our season tickets for 2012 if that happened. Having said that, there is no way KW trades Viciedo. He refused to give him up last year. Don't remember hearing that he was being offered in trade talks in the past. IMO, Viciedo is one of KW's last signs of credibility as a GM. If he becomes a star hitter, it will take off some of the heat from some of his other moves, such as the Hudson deal. Well, that's not exactly true. The story at the time, IIRC, was that Williams told the Nats GM Rizzo that he could have anyone he wanted from the Sox' system for Dunn - and that included Viciedo. The refusal was that of Rizzo to take Kenny up on that offer and accept Viciedo as fair payment for the "services" of one Adam Dunn.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 18, 2011 -> 08:48 PM) Teahen would make nice sense for them. It'd be a $ dump from the Sox end I'd have to think. They said the Buckos were looking for a "hitter". That eliminates Teahen from consideration right off the bat - even before you consider his ridiculous contract situation.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 18, 2011 -> 08:39 PM) thornton in a save situation? ozzie never learns Ye of little faith!

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 02:01 PM) Maybe it's my faulty memory, but I feel like '97 was totally different. 3.5 games out with lots of signs of life. This year's team hasn't played well at all for 95% of the season so far, and with a record payroll there are major implications in not dealing some guys. This team has the feel of a total failure, only because on paper they should be running away with the division. Of course, that also implies that you don't want to give up to soon because they could get hot, but it would be very very risky to hold onto Jackson/Quentin. I see what you are saying, but it's quite possible that despite how awful we've looked this season, we could conceivably find ourselves only 3.5 games out in the next week or so. And if that's the case, then I just can't see us making any moves that would even remotely appear to make us weaker vs. stronger for the remainder of this season. The only way I see trades of any useful veterans is if we take a nosedive in the standings between now and July 31st.

I'm assuming all of this talk and speculation about moving significant parts of our ballclub is predicated on the belief that the Sox will collapse in the next two weeks and be completely out of the race for the division by month's end. Because outside of that scenario, I personally don't see any useful veterans being moved for younger talent, especially unproven talent. That would completely fly in the face of and contradict the "ALL IN" propaganda of this year, and more importantly, it would signal another "White Flag" scenario. I cannot for one second imagine Jerry Reinsdorf allowing this organization to get anywhere near a situation whereby the Sox could be construed as throwing in the towel prematurely. The amount of criticism and abuse that was heaved on this organization after the "White Flag" trades of '97 was unbelievable. I could see, maybe, a trade of someone like Jackson for someone who could be viewed as instrumental in this year's race, but otherwise, I just don't see any of this happening, unless we fall out of the race in the next couple of weeks.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 08:46 PM) All I know is it would devastate me to know that I would never see a grandchild because my only child (assuming I just had one son) decided to be gay. And that the family name would essentially die when he died. And let's not get it twisted. Sexual preference is a choice. It's not like coming into the world black, white, etc. When did you get that sexual preference questionnaire where you checked off your sexual preference "choice" as heterosexual? When did you consciously make that "choice"?

QUOTE (FlySox87 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 06:37 PM) I'm not allowed to be disappointed if my son is gay? Would you not be disappointed? I think most red blooded men would be. Doesn't mean we'd show it, but are there people out there who actually want a gay child? Is there some sort of contest here today to say the most bigoted, discriminatory, and/or just plain ignorant thing possible? I mean, really - what's going on here. This discussion has devolved into some rather shameful and certainly distasteful commentary. Can we please just get back to trying to run Greg Walker out of town on the first rail or anything else White Sox related, and leave these type of social discussions for websites devoted to such topics?

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 12:17 PM) LOL. Well that's gay. "LOL", indeed: "L"everaging "O"ffensive "L"anguage.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 11:59 AM) This is the worst post I've ever seen on here. I thought so, too.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 02:06 AM) I like using the word gay. I use it all the time. This is gay, that's gay, you're gay. Since it's not natural to stick your weiner in a man's anus, it should be joked about...that's the price of being gay..the jokes. They don't have it THAT bad. I mean it's like anything else a person does that goes against the natural grain, ya get ridiculed. I'm just glad I don't have to make a fake apology like GB did every time I say it. Nobody likes having to fake apologize. Beyond deplorable.

An interesting story about hitting coaches to sort of compare and contrast to the situation with the White Sox involves none other than my namesake here, (former Sox outfielder) Thad Bosley. Bosley was named hitting coach of the Texas Rangers over the winter, but on June 8th, after only two months on the job, he was fired from his position. Fired, despite the fact that the Rangers were the 3rd most productive team, offensively, in the league. So from a distance, the firing seemed somewhat odd not only because it only happend two months into the job, but because it appeared that Bosley had the results to back up the work he was doing. However, upon reading several players' accounts on their experience with Bosley from spring training through those first two months, it appears the Rangers attained those impressive offensive results in spite of Bosley's presence. In other words, the players were apparently not buying into Bosley's philosophy on hitting and thus pretty much just rejected and ignored him and did their own thing. Rangers management quickly detected the disconnect between the coach and the players and their collective rejection of his philosophy, and quickly moved to remove Bosley from his post. I bring this story up as it sort of seems to be the flip of what might be going on with the Sox. You really never hear publicly (or at least I cannot recall such a case) where any of the Sox players have stated having an issue with Walker. In fact, if anything, you've heard the direct opposite, as for example, I've seen Konerko go on record a few times saying very complimentary things about Walker's approach and philosophy. So is it possible then, if not probable, that the flaw in the Sox' overall offensive process isn't their hitting coach's philosophy about hitting, or the drills and exercises he has the players run through in batting practice, or his review and analysis of video with the players, etc., but simply this particular set of players ability (or inability) to execute? It certainly could be both, but I think by now, and especially with the way the offense has struggled, that there would have been some sort of player revolt against Walker. Heck, it only took the Rangers two months to run Bosley out of town down there in Texas. But the lack of such a revolt by the Sox players leads me to believe our problem is more about the pupils rather than the teacher.

QUOTE (OilCan @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 07:57 PM) Hector has some serious heat....93-94 mph fastball. And a decent screwball. He's definitely been impressive in his short stint thus far.

QUOTE (jeffro2525 @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 07:48 PM) I guess...I honestly thought this baby was over at 3-0...but I guess theres a reason I'm still watching. A third of the lead sliced off by one swing by Teahen! Go Sox!

The lowly Cubs were down 8-0 after four innings tonight, and now they are tied at 8 in the 7th inning. Anything is possible.