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Wall Street Journal story on Sox rebuild...
Thad Bosley replied to Lip Man 1's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 09:35 PM) Failed is harsh. 45 years of sub-par ownership is more realistic Zero playoff appearances in the '60s. Zero playoff appearances in the '70s. One playoff appearance, only one series, only one win, in the '80s. One playoff appearance, only one series, only two wins, in the '90s. THREE playoff appearance"s" in the '00s, with one World Series Championship; the other two appearances comprising one series each and only one win between the two. Zero playoff appearances in the '10s. Back to that again, the zero playoff appearance business. Failed ownership, or sub-par ownership? Take your pick. Neither has been ideal whatsoever for our beleaguered fan base. -
Wall Street Journal story on Sox rebuild...
Thad Bosley replied to Lip Man 1's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 02:00 PM) Now the only thing to do is to sit back and wait for the most obvious post ever. Even the Wall Street Journal is onto what the "obvious" obstacle/hurdle has been that's made Sox success so elusive over the years. -
07/26 GT: Cubs @ Sox game 3, 7:08 PM, Arrieta vs. Shields
Thad Bosley replied to iWiN4PreP's topic in 2017 Season in Review
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Did Reinsdorf sell Bulls Draftee to sign Jake Burger?
Thad Bosley replied to Buehrle>Wood's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 10:29 PM) Admins, I think it's time you finally ban Thad Bosley. I've defended some of his viewpoints in the past, but he's literally off his rocker and is now polluting random threads with his bizarre Reinsdorf hatred. Ahh, YOU'VE defended "some viewpoints in the past", but now YOU'VE decided you don't agree with other relevant viewpoints. Well, Admins, i find myself in agreement with many of the sentiments shared by this poster. Not every point of view, but many of them. But I'd never be so bold or disrespectful as to try and cut his point of view off simply because "I" didn't agree with his point of view, no matter how many times he tried to push them across. -
Did Reinsdorf sell Bulls Draftee to sign Jake Burger?
Thad Bosley replied to Buehrle>Wood's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 09:47 PM) Wow, did Reinsdorf run over your dog or something? Nope, I don't even own a dog. I am, however, a fan of the Chicago White Sox. Don't know if you've noticed, but they are in last place as we speak. Not to mention, but their performance the past five years under the current GM has been abysmal. The team as made one lone postseason appearance in the last 12 years since the '05 World Series appearance, in which they won one lone game. Much more to worry about as a Sox fan while Reinsdorf remains owner of our team than the simple facts about his ownership I occasionally remind us all about! -
Did Reinsdorf sell Bulls Draftee to sign Jake Burger?
Thad Bosley replied to Buehrle>Wood's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 09:44 PM) Your obsession with Reinsdorf has reached new, historically creepy levels. "Creepy", in what way? What FACTS do I relay about the owner's near-40 record with this team reach any level that can even remotely be described as "creepy"? He has been absolutely AWFUL for you, me, and every other serious fan of this team. -
Did Reinsdorf sell Bulls Draftee to sign Jake Burger?
Thad Bosley replied to Buehrle>Wood's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 09:42 PM) What the f*** does this have to do with anything? Reinsdorf's ownership and management of this organization has EVERYTHING to do with your recent and up-to-the-minute experience as a White Sox fan. -
Did Reinsdorf sell Bulls Draftee to sign Jake Burger?
Thad Bosley replied to Buehrle>Wood's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 04:44 PM) The Bulls and White Sox are separate businesses. Watch the write-ups then of Reinsdorf's so-called "legacy" in a few years when his tenure as owner of both teams has ended. They won't seem so "separate" when all of that nonsense begins. The narrative has already begun in several fluff pieces: Reinsdorf being described as "so awesome" for the city of Chicago because he brought "seven" championships to the city. He brought six Bulls trophies to the city of Chicago along with the lonely ONE and only ONE championship achieved on the South Side over his nearly 40 years at the helm there. Certainly very impressive for the basketball franchise; not-so-much for the baseball franchise, not over a forty period. Reinsdorf is somehow being made a hero in this city because he's been compared to the losing likes of the Tribune Company, the McCaskey's, and Bill Wirtz. Can you imagine any faint praise greater than this!! We ought to watch out for the favorable journalistic license already underway to conflate this guy's record during his time on the South Side with that with which Michael Jordan allowed him to achieve with the Bulls. Make no mistake: Reinsdorf's last chance for salvaging his legacy with the Sox is tied to this rebuild. If under Reinsdorf's waning days of ownership, Hahn can manage to acquire and develop the kind of players that will lead to a level of achievement manifesting itself in the organization's FIRST-EVER display of sustainable postseason play, then MAYBE Reinsdorf's legacy will withstand historical scrutiny. Otherwise, he'll simply be lumped in with the Allyns and the rest of the organization's owners responsible for the team's sad record of futility, and it'll open up a golden chance for the NEXT OWNER to achieve what no other Sox owner has managed to achieve: a winning Chicago White Sox baseball organization. -
QUOTE (Wanne @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 07:31 PM) I just read something from Heyman (not sure if this was posted before...I don't scan every post in a 48 pg thread) that the Sox were asking for Torres and Frazier as the return. Seems a tad steep....but who knows. It's actually Torres "or" Frazier, not both. And for me, I was actually happy to see Torres name still being bandied about. Even with the TJS (to his non-throwing arm), the prospect of both he and Moncada holding down the fort in the infield for the next six years is tantalizing, to say the least.
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QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 03:53 PM) We still need to field a team and hopefully be competitive. I would keep Frazier for a couple more years until we get some minor league help. Robertson is tradeable and could return good prospects. Melky might go and Delmonico might be ready to step in at LF. He has been playing there at Charlotte. Swarzak might go also. Quintana can bring several prospects but we don't need to trade right now. But there is minor league help ready for third base. It's called the "Matt Davidson/Yolmer Sanchez Show", once Moncada is brought up to play second. Wouldn't you rather see what those two can possibly do to further future White Sox winning ambitions than watch Frazier saunter off into his mid-30s in a Sox uni? What good would that do for anyone? Another thing to think about which can help you with your soon-to-experience separation anxiety when they trade Frazier, is to remember that he isn't part of the Sox brain trusts' "current" plan, i.e., the "rebuilding" plan. Frazier, like Cabrera and Robertson, is a remnant of the "last" plan hatched by Williams & Hahn, i.e., the "three year" plan described to us back in 2015 to explain away that season's futility. The three year plan, as you may recall, was designed to maximize the window of opportunity provided by a solid, young core comprising the likes of Sale, Q, Abreu, Eaton, etc. Frazier was a piece brought in to accomplish the objectives of that plan. However, as we all know, the Sox brass pulled the plug on the three year plan a year and a half into it, and have since moved onto their newest adventure, the rebuild. So you see, in this case, you sort of need to throw the baby out with the bath water. No more three year plan, no more need for the veterans who were brought into try and make that particular plan work.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 08:09 AM) Look, you can be as bitter as you want. Obviously I can't do anything about that, since you have quite literally been holding this grudge for decades. What would be nice is if you actually quit trying to ruin it for everyone in every single thread where ownership is discussed, or even hinted at. The level of obsession is obvious, and rather sad to be honest. It would also be nice that if you truly meant you didn't want to see insults, that you would actually stop insulting everyone who isn't as bitter and angry about nothing as you are. Go buy a dog, get a new hobby. Obviously you get no joy from baseball. You are 100% doing this wrong. This is supposed to be a release, not a point of anger. Clearly you can be as you bitter as you want, based on the over-the-top intense tone you take against ANYONE who DARES to criticize the current owner and his management team. You are rather fierce on that front, which the astute fans recognize and don't seem to appreciate. Behind the mask of so-called "administrator" you routinely try to tamp down anything even remotely critical of ownership and management, ironically the bodies to which the blame of the current deplorable state of the organization belongs. Perhaps "administrator" of a White Sox fan message board is beyond your reach at this moment. Maybe it's you and your immense bitterness against astute fan spot-on analysis that's a problem around here. If you can't handle the "release" of very smart White Sox fans who can rather easily assess the team's results of the past five, 12, 37, and 57 years, then maybe you're in the wrong business of monitoring a board like this. Maybe you should just step aside, go buy a hot dog yourself, and get out of the way.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 06:54 PM) If you can't find happiness in 40 years of baseball, there is no amount of winning that will change that. Outside of one season (2005) in the past 37 years of the current owner's tenure, there is all of four playoff series with a measly four playoff series wins that our fan base (which you criticize routinely) has experienced. And yet you boldly exclaim that more winning than that won't change the level of happiness of the White Sox fan base? GMAFB
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 06:54 PM) They won't. If you can't find happiness in 40 years of baseball, there is no amount of winning that will change that. Some people need a bandwagon, others can handle the glory of the game by itself. Lol - "glory of the game by itself". That's beautiful. Is that what White Sox fans should grasp onto AND have been content with these past 12 years since 2005? Forget the "WAHHHHHHHH - I don't wanna be reminded of the owner's 40 years of futility!" facts. Let the "glory of the game by itself" flags fly over Guaranteed Excuse Field these days and damn anyone who dare criticize the horrific rate of winning that has occurred within. That's the approach less-than-serious fans seem very content with taking, which is fine. Have at it. If the one playoff series with its lonely one win brought to you by this owner and his management team these past 12 years is good enough for you, then just say so. Go ahead, exclaim your satisfaction with that (seemingly less-than-desirable) record of achievement. In the meantime, let the more serious bunch amongst us who expect a tad bit more than that share our views as well, without being subjected to the unnecessary and really very lame insults along the way.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 09:10 PM) Yes, please stop with the same old lame lines. All of your 40 year speeches end up in the exact same spot. You're bitter, we get it. Lol - that's because we the fans end up in exact same spot each year, which is summer after summer of meaningless baseball. Fix that, and the "speeches" will change faster than Grant took Richmond.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 06:28 PM) Yet if you lost the tedious insults all you would have left is a grudge in your posts... Lol - stop with the lame lines, and go read posts from the likes of Mighty Mite, Lip Man, IWriteCode. They get it, and you'll stand to learn a lot from them. Go on, scoot!
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QUOTE (The Mighty Mite @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 02:41 PM) Actually 17 straight years of winning baseball, growing up that's all I knew, that the Sox were always going to be contenders. One of the big problems from the beginning days of the franchise has been bad ownership, from the Comiskey family to Veeck to the Allyns to Veeck again and to JR. A close second has been the location of the ballpark, not a big issue in the early years but from the mid 20th century the ballpark's neighborhood has gotten a bad rap. I retired to Florida in 1993 but in the years I lived up there I atended hundred of games at old Comiskey and a few more at the new park, never once did I have any issue or witness any kind of crime in arriving or leaving the park, saw many fights in the park especially in the 50s and 60s when the damn Yankees came to town. The next successful White Sox owner will be the first successful White Sox owner.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 08:59 AM) If you can get past the most simple of concepts, you could understand that it is a little more complex than what you want it to be to fit your grudge. Lol - your time would be better spent reading the Mighty Mite's posts and less time on these tedious insults. You might actually pick up on a few simple yet accurate concepts that poster articulates very well that seem to escape you.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 4, 2017 -> 10:13 PM) This is Trumpian fantasy. Existing in a big market does not make you a big market team. The White Sox fan base is a fraction of the Cubs. The Cubs own Chicago. Anyone who doesn't get that is delusional or irrationally angry. Existing in a big market SHOULD make you a big market team. That's a no-brainer, and only an irrational angry mindset would not allow one to reach this easy conclusion. It's the embarrassingly ineffective management of the past several decades that has precluded this organization from taking advantage of the great market that is Chicago.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 4, 2017 -> 02:10 PM) Which is why the idea of viewing them as a "large market team" is such a waste of time. They are not anywhere near this grouping, and never will be. Utter nonsense. The team resides in Chicago. That is a large market. The Sox don't operate as a large market team because of ineffective ownership. I know it pains you to be told that, but that is the truth, and quite frankly, it should be pretty obvious by now.