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QUOTE (Baron @ Apr 7, 2017 -> 07:20 PM) Moncada has another single...think that's 7 Hostess ought to be keeping a close eye on this guy. He could end up being the best celebrity endorser of "Twinkies" they've ever had!
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QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Apr 7, 2017 -> 07:12 PM) The swirling wind brought it back into fair territory and away from Abreu. I think Avi Garcia thought he was going to collide with Jose He should have called off the infielder who was running backwards on the ball long before they were even close to colliding into one another.
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QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Apr 7, 2017 -> 06:54 PM) I'd like to see that as well, but we seem pretty committed to Moncada at 2b. We'll have to see if they move him around at all in the minors. They aren't going to bring him up to the majors to play a position he hasn't played all year. I think the original poster meant that Salidino could play third when Moncado comes up and if they move Frazier.
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QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Apr 1, 2017 -> 09:39 PM) One thing about Harry. Nobody could sell baseball better than he could. He would compare Kevin Bell and Bucky Dent to Robert Redford and Paul Newman. He'd be doing the same thing with our young prospects. Of course that was before he came to despise Reinsdorf and Einhorn, and vice-versa. Harry would go onto find out the hard way what happens in Chicago when you get on the bad side of Jerry & Eddie, aka the "Sunshine Boys", as they gleefully dubbed themselves back then. Yeah, 'ol Harry's career was essentially over once the Sunshine Boys tossed him out to the curb. Who needed Harry and WGN back then, anyway!!
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QUOTE (ptatc @ Apr 1, 2017 -> 08:28 AM) I don't think people realize how hard it is to lose 100 games. Last year there was only one team. This team is going to be bad, I predicted 90 loses. But with Anderson, Rodon and Abreu probably not being traded and a couple of acquired platyers being promoted 100 loses will be tough. I don't disagree with you on the rareness of teams losing 100 games, but it does happen. My point is it will happen this year to this team if they don't improve on the brand of baseball they featured the last half of May last year, all of June, all of July, all of August, and all of September. And that improvement must come without the services of Sale and Eaton. It's going to be a challenge!
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From the middle of May all the way through the end of the season, for the last 130 games equaling 80% of the season, the Sox played at a worse winning percentage than the 2013 team that lost 99 games. This was WITH Chris Sale and Adam Eaton on the team. Now for 2017 without those two star players in tow, and looking up and down this roster, I don't know how in the world a 100+ loss season can be avoided, particularly as the team sells off its remaining few good players as the season goes on. This is a huge hole Reinsdorf, Williams, and Hahn have dug for this organization, and it's going to get a little uglier at first before it gets better, starting with this upcoming season. The absolute only hope we Sox fans have right now is that the primary architect of the last failed effort at developing a sustainable winning ball club, Rick Hahn, will somehow have different results with this rebuild business.
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QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Mar 26, 2017 -> 02:11 PM) Quick question. WTF does JR's ownership and the "conspiracy" rebuild have to do with Lucas Giolito's FB velocity drop and CB spin rate? I swear some folks complain for the sake of complaining and if there was nothing to complain about, they would complain about that too. Lighten up Sox fans and be glad baseball is back after a long winter. As a White Sox fan, JR's continued ownership is far more interesting and with far more riding implications to White Sox baseball than Lucas Giolito's FB velocity ever will be. So any organic change in a discussion within a thread from the latter to the former should be very welcome for any true fan who is trying to navigate through the next few years of challenging waters in which "JR" and his merry court of management have thrust us.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 15, 2017 -> 12:26 PM) Michael Talbert Kopech Nice. Looking forward to his arrival on the South Side. He appears to have a fun personality which will add further appeal to the next contending Sox team.
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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Mar 14, 2017 -> 03:21 PM) Holland seems like a cool dude. Happy he's on the team for this year. It appears both he and James "35th &" Shields enjoy acting in the mentor capacity with all of the young hurlers on the team, so that part is nice as well.
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QUOTE (WBWSF @ Mar 11, 2017 -> 09:49 AM) This is another low point in the JR ownership. The team can't get a major beer sponsor on their TV + Radio broadcasts. Some people have posted that the White Sox will receive a new TV deal in 2 years. I really wonder how much the team will get from that deal. The next 2 seasons are going to be brutal and I have to wonder if the team is going to get any big offers from any TV station. The inability to re-up with Miller is a downstream impact of the continuing bottom-of-the-barrel attendance and TV ratings. The bottom-of-the-barrel attendance and TV ratings are the downstream impacts of the continuing losing by the teams brought to the fan base by Team Reinsdorf, Williams, & Hahn, with over a decade's worth of futility currently underway. Simple cases of cause and effect. The franchise in many ways has bottomed out, and now all that's left for Jerry, Kenny, & Rick to do in the waning years of the Reinsdorf ownership is to go through this rebuild business, and hope to dig the team out of the hole they dug for it. Do so in a way that they might still be able to enjoy whatever success emerges at the end of the rebuild, before it's finally "Bye! Bye!" to all three sometime in the near future once a new owner is in place.
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"White Sox fire sale isn’t over — it just got paused"
Thad Bosley replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Mar 10, 2017 -> 12:08 PM) JR will not sell while he is still alive because of the tax hit (which would be very large) on his family. He started as a tax guy, he knows the laws better than anyone. And it has been reported many times by many sources (including JR himself to Bob Sirott on Chicago Tonight) that his children are not interested in running the Sox and he has advised them against doing so. Mark That's fine. Fresh start/clean slate with a new owner who hopefully performs a little housecleaning. -
"White Sox fire sale isn’t over — it just got paused"
Thad Bosley replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 10, 2017 -> 11:45 AM) I thought this was a good read if anyone was interested: http://nypost.com/2017/03/08/white-sox-fir...ust-got-paused/ "The perception within the game is Reinsdorf will step back as owner at some point soon, either handing off to his children or selling." -
White Sox Scout Yankees for Potential Q Trade
Thad Bosley replied to DirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Well, until a trade happens one way or another, I'll choose to believe if we could get Moncada for Sale, and the Yankees could get Gleyber Torres for four months of Aroldis Chapman, then we should be able to get Torres for four years of Quintana. I could be wrong, but for me it just stands to reason. And at least for now, thinking along these lines, it is kind of exciting to think about a potential dynamite double play combination with the #2 & #3 prospects in baseball right now with Moncada and Torres. Punt Anderson and his speed & arm to centerfield, and you got the makings of tremendous strength up the all-important middle. I won't lie to you - love that idea! -
QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 04:42 PM) My opinion which is shared by a lot of people, including Ron Fowler, the Padres Executive Chairman. http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-white-so...itical-comments Oh, did you watch any of Shields starts for the White Sox last season or his start on Spring Training yesterday or his interview after that? http://www.csnchicago.com/video/shields-i-...ht-i-was-decent There is a train of thought that the Sox should lose as many games as possible. Even for those who subscribe to that theory of rebuilding, you do not want to burn up the arms of our pitching staff covering for this guy and you never want to field players that look like they aren't giving maximum effort, or sloughing off questions after poor performance. He's gotta go, at least in my opinion. Let's agree to disagree and see how this works out one way or another. None of the links you provided take us to a place supporting your assertion that Shields doesn't want to pitch any longer. They take you to a place where we can read the Padres' owner's unhappiness with his actual performance last season, but nothing about a desire to stop playing baseball. So let's not conflate Shields' talent at this stage in his career and the results therein with what may or may not be going on in his mind about wanting to continue on in Major League baseball, because neither you, nor I, or anyone else is able to know that unless he flat out comes out and says so, which he has not.
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QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 04:10 PM) You missed the point. Shields is not an innings eater. It is exactly the opposite. And he doesn't really want to pitch any more. You cannot have a loser like that on the mound and expect to sell tickets. Even John Danks was trying to win every game he pitched in. Shields has to go. The sooner better....and that has nothing to do with rebuilding. And you know this...how?
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 10:30 AM) 670 The ScoreVerified account @670TheScore 1h1 hour ago Rick Hahn continues to preach patience for White Sox as they monitor trade market http://cbsloc.al/2meVb8B Lol - the patience game will have to be a two way street. He'll need to be patient with a beleaguered fan base that won't be in any hurry to head on out to the 'ol ballpark while this rebuild is going on. Eight straight seasons of no playoff appearances, and now the promise of some ugly baseball on the near horizon will depress an already exhausted base. Patience will be required by Sox management to win the trust and support back from the fans, and that's probably going to take a little while.
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That hot start last year which lasted through just 20% of the season really masked how bad the team actually was. The Sox played worse the remaining 80% of the season than the 2013 team did which lost 99 games. That was with Sale and Eaton. How anyone can think this team that completely stunk up the joint the last 120 games of last year, from the beginning/middle of May all the way through to the end, will somehow be better this season WITHOUT Sale and Eaton is beyond me. Face it, folks. It's "Sit back, strap it down, and hope Hahn can dig the Sox out of the hole he, KW and Reinsdorf put us in" time.
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Sox taking it slow with Rodon during ST
Thad Bosley replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 10:47 PM) We all dream of this. But, I'm not counting on that happening. Assuming that ownership & the Front Officr are as they are now, Rodon's as good as gone, IMO. Do the math. When will Rodon be up for free agency? -
Sox taking it slow with Rodon during ST
Thad Bosley replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 10:09 PM) 2.0 fWAR in 2015 to 2.7 fWAR in 2016 isn't really a quantum leap. And he's hurt. Again. Set aside his draft position, & consider what he is, not what we hope him to be. He was, by one metric, equal to Miguel Gonzalez last year, even with him padding his stats in garbage time late last year. And his agent is dying for him to sign elsewhere. Why is he a core player? He may not be good, & even if he will be, he probably won't be a part of the next good Sox team. That depends. Possible new owner at that time = Possible new attitude with dealing with the agent who routinely represents the premium talent around baseball -
QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 12:05 PM) Hawkins is a bad miss. Anderson is a good pick. The issue is that Reinsdorf was against spending money on amateur players and KW loved tools, athletes. Drafting tools athletes is fine but drafting ones that also don't cost a lot of money isn't a sound strategy. They need baseball play ers and Hostetler drafted many guys with more traditional baseball and on base skills. He is on the record saying that he wishes he would have taken more high school guys and he even said they are looking at high school players in this year's draft. It has to be both is what I'm saying. You always want guys that play premium positions because those guys can play other spots. Nick Hostetler comes from the Schuerholz school of scouting. I would expect a focus to be on power pitching and athletes. Dayton Moore subscribes to the same theory and Chris Getz worked under him for years. So I know I'm the evil "Reinsdorf Bogeyman", but don't you see how this guy's philosophy has crippled the organization over the years, even in recent years? He's not new to Major League Baseball and it's ways. He's been in the game for nearly 40 years, yet his strategy and vision continue to be fraught with flawed thinking. So frustrating...
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Update: Luis Robert has been cleared according to Rosenthal
Thad Bosley replied to maggsmaggs's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 04:43 PM) Sure. But the reality is no Kenny, no Robert. If Kenny gets involved, then you have legitimate interest from the White Sox. Good point! Do you think KW can fit in going to take a look at this kid into what must be an awfully busy schedule he's maintaining these days? -
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 04:24 PM) A lot of teams would. All of the hypothetical and made up scenarios in the world doesn't change the fact that we are talking about the Chicago White Sox here. Their entire history of doing business in Latin America quantity over quality. Until they actually do something to change that, I am going to bank on them doing the same thing they have always done. Me admitting something for some reason is 100% immaterial to how the Chicago White Sox actually conduct their business. It is no different to me than think the team whose biggest contract is their history is $68 million dollars is going not to come out of no where and bid $200 million for a free agent. Until it actually happens, I am going to doubt it will happen, because it never has happened. No amount of make believe is going to change the White Sox history here. And how has that approached worked for them? You know the old saying: "Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while". Maybe, just maybe, a light bulb went off over the head of someone in the Sox FO that is causing them to perhaps now change course from a failed philosophy and approach.
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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 2, 2017 -> 01:11 PM) I'm not saying they will sign this guy, but I think your stance of it being 100% out of the realm of possibility isn't accurate. Heck, when FutureSox interviewed Capra, he made clear they tend to like getting a bunch of guys few a few hundred K instead of a million most of the time, and then just once in a while break the bank. That's pretty much this exact scenario - sign a guy like this and blow through the pool once, then spend two years getting guys for 200 or 300k. Add to that the fact that Badler is more connected in this realm than anyone, and he's hinting hard... I think there's a very real chance it happens. Well, and not to mention, but the timing, for goodness sakes. This is a team at the beginning end of a rebuild, and an organization bereft of talented position players, both at the Major and minor league levels. As such, this guy being available at this particular time makes perfect sense for this organization to try and obtain based on where they're at right now.
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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 1, 2017 -> 02:37 PM) Badler said the Sox are the team that comes up the most in discussions about where he might land. He says Sox haven't really been linked to any of the big names for 17-18 period and would have more bonus pool $$ available than everyone else. He also said that if he's cleared prior to June 15, the Sox may just sign Robert anyway and blow through their 2016-2017 pool since it wouldn't affect their 17/18 plans. Very interesting. So I loved this article and am personally excited about the possibility obtaining yet another potential position player superstar, but the one little area in the article where the reader is left hanging a little is in the bolded above: what "discussions"? Certainly not in anything we've seen or read that's available out there. Obviously he's referring to MLB insider talks that may be going on out there, but at least in this article, this reference to "discussions" is so vague, but happy to entertain the rumor nonetheless.
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Luis Robert just two years younger than Yoan Moncada. Best case scenario is the Sox would have one heck of a monster cornerstone heading into the Roarin' 20s!!