Thad Bosley

QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) Reinsdorf being all about the money, why doesn't a rebuild make sense? Keeping a decent product on field obviously isn't drawing any fans in the seats, especially with the northsiders being good. Cut payroll, fan attendance stays roughly the same, give it a shot ..... Better from a monetary perspective for JR & Co. Under the (sweetheart lease) deal, the Sox didn't have to pay a fee for use of the stadium until 2008. In 2015, that fee amounted to about $1.6 million. The Sox also must pay a fee on each ticket sold in excess of 1.93 million in paid attendance. Since 2008, the Sox have paid that fee only in 2010, when games drew 2.2 million fans. However, the Sox were allowed to apply a credit based on the taxes the team paid that year, reducing the ticket fee payment from $455,974 to $95,531. "The White Sox didn't have that much of an incentive to really pack the place," Sanderson said. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-sox-...0521-story.html Before sweetheart lease deal = Reinsdorf NOT a billionaire. 25 years later after state subsidization per sweetheart lease terms = Reinsdorf net worth of $1.3 billion So as you can see, you are right - Reinsdorf is all about the money, if you care to pay attention to the details of the sweetheart lease deal he got rammed down the taxpayers' throats back in 1988, and from which he's been reaping the benefits BIG TIME for the past 25 years. But because he gets subsidized for low attendance, he could easily go in for a full rebuild and his pocketbook would never know the difference. Amazing what little tidbits of information you find lying in the details!

QUOTE (gosoxgo2005 @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 09:11 AM) I really, really do not like Gallo. Swings and misses way, way too much. I know it's just me and he's highly regarded, but I hate hitters that are boom or bust. Agreed. Jurickson Profar is the guy you target if talking to Texas about Q.

QUOTE (FT35 @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 08:16 AM) Same thought here. Minor sell. You don't need to do anything drastic. We are a .500 team, we're not going to really contend, but there are some nice pieces in place for the next couple of years. I think you can move Robertson at the VERY least and get something you can use this year or next. Don't like to trade the guy, he's done a respectful job, but he has value outside of what we can use. A lot can change with the playoff picture in 2 weeks though...we might not see a deal until the last day. I still believe the Sox can make a run THIS YEAR without Robertson. Jones is capable and the rest of the team is in tact. Spend the rest of the summer developing players for next year while still in a somewhat mindful Wild Card race (that will likely NOT happen for us--with or without Robertson). The Sox CANNOT and WILL NOT make a run this year with a team that is a cat whisker away from having the worst offense in the entire league (for the second straight year, I might add). Shockingly, the dumpster dive moves from last winter to upgrade the offense haven't panned out, and thus the team is essentially in the same boat offensively as it was this time last year. And that, ladies and gentleman, will not get this team to the playoffs...for the eighth straight year.

One run in the last 40 innings. Yikes.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 04:48 PM) Way to contradict yourself within a single post Yeah, how so?

Sox baseball so bad right now, Hawk has to resort to digging up Mark Buehrle stats and talking about him.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 04:05 PM) The first two of which Kenny Williams even used the term "rebuilding" to describe. How'd that rebuild go, btw? What did they actually rebuild during those two years?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 04:05 PM) The first two of which Kenny Williams even used the term "rebuilding" to describe. That's not true at all. The team did not enter 2013 claiming it was a rebuilding year. The Sox had just come off being in first place for most of the 2012 season, so there was no such talk about rebuilding right after that. Then the first three to four months of that wretched 2013 happened, and that's when they started unloading veterans like Peavy and Rios, midway through that year.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 04:02 PM) Hahn is a good solid baseball man. He is not the problem No? Who is then? Reinsdorf? Williams? Both? Neither, it's the players? Who or what is the problem with the state of our Sox?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 03:48 PM) This current team is so outclassed. Why do you want them to stand still and hope they win 82 games. What we have seen the last two years is baseball hell. Four years. The last four years.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 02:56 PM) Sale: 7-18 at Sea 7-23 vs Det 7-28 at Cubs 8-3 at Det 8-9 at KC 8-14 at Mia 8-20 vs Oak 8-26 vs Sea 8-31 at Det 9-5 vs Det 9-11 vs KC 9-16 at KC 9-21 at Phi 9-27 vs TB 10-2 vs Min (probably not starting) I'm worried about the 80% of the remaining schedule that doesn't feature Chris Sale.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 02:50 PM) Thad: I'd very much like to interview any of them. I'd be perfectly willing to do so at their convenience as long as no areas were 'off limits.' JR has been known to set boundaries before willing to do interviews in the past from what I've been told by others. Mark I hope you get the opportunity to interview them someday. I enjoy your interviews, so I'm sure we'd learn quite a bit from the brain trust running things over there at 35th and Shields. Certainly plenty of questions to ask, for which the answers would be very interesting to hear, to say the least.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 02:45 PM) Angels playing flawless defense this series Admittedly that was a smooth and impressive play.

Hawk not sugar coating the Sox offensive problems in the open.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 02:24 PM) Owner trying to win sucks Lose, lose, lose then Thad can keep b****ing.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) So it looks like Cooper has fixed Shields....at least for now. 4 good starts in a row; went 8 last night. Assuming Hahn has seen reality re this team's chances.... is now the time to flip him? Good question. Let's take a look at the facts on the ground as they exist today to see what the answer ought to be. Seller's market. Check. Sox are at .500, but in the 80% of the games they've played that did not feature Chris Sale on the bump, they've played to a .431 winning percentage. Check. Offense, once again, just like last year, near last in the league. Check. Six teams, including Boston and Toronto, ahead of the team for that second wild card spot. Check. You add all of that up and you easily get to the answer you are suggesting, GreenSox, the obvious and logical answer. Meanwhile, prepare yourself for a Jay Bruce announcement or the like between now and August 1st.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 01:38 PM) Torborg was .439 coming in and was given a prey good roster. His White Sox winning percentage is only .006 better than Terry Bevington's. And the experience card is beyond overplayed. Maybe in year 1, but they won 85 games. What Brooks Boyer should do is arrange an interview for Lip with JR, KW, RH and RV. He will never slam them again. Why, because individually and collectively they've all been so good at running the White Sox organization?

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 13, 2016 -> 09:11 AM) I'm not saying the Sox have been successful, I'm saying that the suggestion that the reaction to their failure should be to tear down and rebuild is ill-advised. I'm also pointing out that the Sox have made progress toward the goal of perennial threat in each of the last three seasons, even if that progress has been slower and more methodical than we would all like. Sometimes a good plan can yield undesirable results. In professional sports (ESPECIALLY baseball), that happens more often than not. Only one team in 30 actually succeeds at winning the World Series. That doesn't mean that only 1 team in 30 did a good job; that 29 front offices should be fired. It's simply the nature of competition. When you go head to head, only one winner can emerge. This front office has not tasted success, but analysis suggests that it's still moving in the direction of success. It makes sense to stay on that course until the direction changes. “We’re blessed right now with some special talent that’s entering prime of its career, whether it’s Chris Sale or Jose Abreu, Adam Eaton, Jose Quintana, Carlos Rodon — he’s probably a little before his peak but certainly on the rise. Our goal and intent all along has been to maximize the window to win a championship while these players are on our roster. I get the skepticism at this point. But we do feel that what we’re doing now is maximizing our chances to win while we have some elite talent on our roster.” - Rick Hahn, the day after he made the trade for Todd Frazier. Thoughtful analysis, Eminor. Follow up question for you: how do you reconcile the "slower and more methodical" pace of progress which you cite with Hahn's references to maximize the window of opportunity while the core is still around. All of this, whatever the Sox have been doing the past few years, is it all just going to result in one or two years, max, of championship baseball around 2018, 2019, when the contracts of most of the core will be up, given this slow pace of progression? My point is when Hahn talks in terms of a window, that sounds like a somewhat limited amount of time, and not something that lines up well with progress that is coming along at a snail's pace.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 01:08 PM) Because he got them a #2 starter. Great point. I would rather give up the Marcus Semiens and Trayce Thompsons of the world that bring back the types of players like Shark (already forgot how to spell his damn last name!) and Frazier, guys of a certain caliber who could presumably contribute to a contending team, than give up nobody but sign bottom of the barrel types like a 37 year-old Rollins or Mat Latos, who won't help get the team anywhere. It goes back to the old adage: you have to give up something to get something.

Great article, very informative. The one guy whom I'm interested to see how things turn out with is Alec Hansen, who wasn't mentioned in this particular interview. I thought he was a terrific pick with obvious tremendous upside. If he returns to form and lives up to the hype that had him going as a potential 1-1 at one point, look out! He could be a difference maker somewhere down the road.

He won't be as exhausted entering the round as Stanton was.

This is pretty awesome.

Let's go Todd!!

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 11, 2016 -> 05:10 PM) When considering a rebuild, one factor is the competition. Right now Cleveland looks good, but not exactly a juggernaut. The Sox are right with KC and Detroit with Minnesota taking up the rear. There is no team that you would say is anywhere near unbeatable. That is I'm reason why I wouldn't trade Chris Sale for a package of guys I hope is,as,good as Chris Sale some day. I really think so,e want the Sox to rebuild for the built in minimum 3 years of constant complaining. Yes, yes, of course you do. Blah blah blah.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 11, 2016 -> 02:15 PM) Serious question. Say the Sox went into full rebuild and traded everyone away. How many years of losing until you started moaning about years not in the playoffs and the rest? Could you go 3 years and not say a peep about the team on the field being awful? I doubt most can. The second half of 2013 and 2014 the Sox were clearly rebuilding, yet they hold the w-l record against the manager. There was tons of complaining about roster construction in 2014 with Konerko being brought back to be the 25th guy. And your solution is, what? Besides always moaning about moaners. No rebuild, just stay the course? Keep on going at this thing as they've done in recent years?