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QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 17, 2016 -> 08:45 PM) You joke but I would definitely ask the Mets what they would give up for either Ain't gonna happen. Reinsdorf sez he's adding, not subtracting.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 17, 2016 -> 08:09 PM) Not sure how Hahn thinks this lineup can compete I'm not worried. Jerry Reinsdorf assured Bruce Levine the other day that he had no plans for anything but a "full on attack to help his front office find a way to win now". So we are in good hands, nothing to worry about. Just sit back and let the magic happen!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 17, 2016 -> 07:55 PM) The trophy generation has spoken. And rather accurately at that.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 17, 2016 -> 06:29 PM) Yeah, respecting Jerry's business accumen and allowing him to run the company is different than his unilaterally controlling the company. They obviously trust Jerry a lot, because you don't hear about problems from inside of the ownership structure. Well of course the investors trust him. He's done very well by them over the past 36 years, making each of them a whole lotta dough along the way. It's the fans who haven't made out any where near as well.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 07:42 PM) Discredit the FO? What have they done lately? 1 playoff appearance in what ten years?d You mean besides envelop this organization in a culture of losing?

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 03:41 PM) People like me? You know nothing about me. Don't get pissed at fans for not being fair weather fans. Trust me, I want the Sox to do well as much as you do - but I don't think boycotting them is going to make any difference, and I assure you that JR wants to win as much as anyone does (as he shows over and over and over again). Is this organization run perfectly? Absolutely not, but one of the reasons I love them so much is they always try, and frankly, while maybe it should have bit them in the ass pretty bad now, it really hasn't at all (speaking last 15-20 years). Evidence?

QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Jun 9, 2016 -> 09:37 AM) http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosen...609-column.html Actions speak louder than words. Right now, there are neither words nor any actions happening to give the fans any meaningful indication that the Sox are trying to pull themselves out of this rut they've been in for several years now. This is Year Five of the Reinsdorf/Williams/Hahn/Ventura/Cooper management configuration, and the results rendered to date have been horrendous. This is reflected in the big "F" the fans have given the club on its report card, manifested through the continued atrocious attendance and low TV ratings. What, if anything, is being done to turn the tide on all of this? We the fans seem to be having the same discussions today about the plight of this ballclub that we had a year ago today, two years ago today, three years ago today, so on and so forth. So while words alone coming from Reinsdorf won't make a difference, at least it would be some evidence that there's a pulse in the front office over at 35th and Shields.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:49 PM) You can't be serious. This has got to be a long term troll job. Well done. Oh, I'm quite serious. You derail one thread after another with your baseless accusations about "others" - not yourself - but "others" about what you perceive to be misery, angst, and bitterness. You are obsessed with the topic. Meanwhile, the irony of all ironies is that you are the one exhibiting misery, angst, and bitterness with all of your constant harping on this made-up nonsense.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:44 PM) HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AAAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Who is the one obsessed with whining and moaning about perceived bitterness about thousands and thousands of people you don't even know? YOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOU

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:41 PM) I'm bitter that this team has been garbage for years and has one weak playoff showing in the last decade. Continually sucking isn't exactly building good will. +1

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 09:33 PM) Bitter much? That would be you, Colonel Misery. You are the only one around here always speaking in terms of misery, bitterness and angst. Seems to be your favorite topics.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 06:11 PM) There is a big difference behind an erosion, and a huge hit to the fan base, ala White Flag. White Sox fans are a bitter lot, and would absolutely flee in droves over another massive sell off. Think more like 1997 to 1998. Here we go again - SS2K5 maligning an entire fan base comprising thousands and thousands of people he doesn't even know. Yet he feels compelled and dare I say empowered to slander so many people. Un-frickin'-believable that he continues pushing such miserable condemnations about so many people with whom he has no data points to make such statements. STOP ALREADY!

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 10:36 AM) The million dollar question is what Manager could take this current team and start winning with it. Latos is pitching his way out of the rotation. The bullpen is throw a dart at the board to see who pitches cause no one is doing their job. You have a aging short stop and a utility player rotating a SS. You have a catcher who does better framing but can't hit and the other one who can't frame well but is slightly better hitter. You have a rotating dh of Shuck and Garcia with no better solution. When you lose players to injury there's no depth to back them up. You have one of you best players underperforming. This team has had hole for years not but have been patching it together to hopefully better performance. Don't have the minors to produce good position player for the major league team. Saladino is the only home grown player at the majors. They either have to trade to fill in the gaps at the major league roster or go dumpster diving at the free agency level cause they don't give out and lump of money to get the better players. Should robin go probably. Make a shack up to see if it awakens the player but it's not a guarantee fix. It starts at the top for accountability and goes down from there. You are absolutely correct. The angst over the current stretch of losing is misplaced. Ventura is merely playing the hand he's been dealt. He's not the one who, in an attempt to "upgrade" several positions that contributed to the league's worst offense last year, went dumpster diving last winter to do so. Rollins, Jackson, Avila, and even Navarro were the results of dumpster diving by the front office. And not to mention, but Ventura was originally going to have to trot out LaRoche again, too, only to then be forced the need to employ one Avi Garcia instead. So my frustration at this point lies more with Hahn, Williams, and You-Know-Who more so than Ventura. At the same time, as I mentioned earlier, managers are hired to be fired, so I do think he needs to go at this point. But that is only curing a symptom rather than the true root cause of what continues to ail the White Sox.

What's that old adage? "Managers are hired to be fired". I would wager that the vast majority of managers fired over the course of time were fired for far less failure than what Robin has racked up during his time here. So it's a no brainer at this point - he needs to go. Time for fresh blood!

QUOTE (Tex @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 08:29 AM) Fixed. After a few decades you realize that sustained success isn't that easy to predict. I remember the string of Bear's Super Bowls in the 1980s. I believe they were going to be the dynasty. Don't sell the Cubbies too short. They had an excellent season last year, one that saw them go deep into the playoffs. They are well on their way to accomplishing something our organization has never achieved in over 100+ years, which is making it to the postseason in consecutive seasons. Playoff appearances in consecutive seasons equates to sustainable success, at least in my book. And the way they've built their team by stockpiling the kind of young, elite talent that they have, they've positioned themselves as well as they possibly could to be successful well beyond this season as well. The games still have to be played, of course, and nothing is ever a given in baseball, but your edits to dilute my original post do not paint an accurate picture of what's transpiring on the north side.

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 07:11 AM) Ozzie worked out well if you remember 2005. As far as the Ricketts/Ameritrade approach, they got lucky getting Rizzo, Bryant and trading for Arrietta , now it's all about trying to buy a world series. It would be funny if they don't win it with those guys. Yes he did, but that's not my point. What I said was just having White Sox ties does not "automatically" qualify you to be manager of the team. As for the Cubs getting "lucky" to get Rizzo, Bryant and Arrieta, that's just sour grapes from a Sox fan. They run a good baseball operation over there, plain and simple. That wasn't the case for three+ decades when the Tribune Company owned the club, but it is now. They have shrewd baseball men at the top of the house who have done quite well in several trades and in the draft. Give the devil his due - they've put together a team that is now in the throes of achieving sustainable success. Oh for the day when we can make a similar claim for our Sox!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) IIRC, Hahn sent personal letters to JR begging him to give him a chance to work for the Sox. Like, as in 'snail mail'? That's weird! "Dear Jerry, I am taking pen to paper today to implore your consideration in the hiring of Nicholas Hostetler to be our new amateur scouting director. He comes with unparalleled qualifications and you'll just love him. My return address is on the envelope, so write me back at your earliest convenience. Yours Truly, Rick P.S. - Wish you had let Kenny go to Toronto when you had the chance!"

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 08:04 PM) Renteria was hired to be a manager very soon. If the Sox keep failing, it will be here. If not, it will be somewhere else. I don't care for the optics of the Sox hiring the Cubs leftovers as manager. At the same time, there would be an interesting story to tell if the Sox hired Renteria as manager, and he managed to not only take the Sox to the playoffs this year, but also got them to surpass the Northsiders in accomplishment. That could be a lot of fun!

QUOTE (lord chas @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 04:12 PM) It seems to me it is time for a fresh voice. History tells us that JR prefers someone with White Sox ties. Names like Dave Martinez, Sandy Alomar, and Omar Vizquel will be mentioned I believe it is time for a complete organizational reboot. Who are some logical targets the White Sox should go after? Thoughts? NO! That's the problem! "White Sox ties" doth not automatically a great manager make! Stop with that nonsense already. Look at the Cubs. Just a few years ago they said "no thank you" to one of the greatest Cubs of all time in Ryne Sandberg to be their manager, and instead looked for whom they felt was the best qualified against far more important criteria than simply history with the franchise. That approach eventually landed them Renteria and Maddon. Now that is a sound approach to operating a MLB franchise. Governing solely from some silly loyalty program is not.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 02:47 PM) Exactly, he's done nothing as a manager to deserve unconditional support. And honestly, there's absolutely no downside to firing him right now. Maybe canning him does nothing, but there's nothing to lose at this point and plenty to gain if it does wake this team up. If we had an owner of the impatient variety, we wouldn't be having these kinds of discussions. Sadly, we have quite the opposite.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 02:21 PM) If you want to get the core, Williams and Hahn should be fired....they hired and extended Ventura and Cooper. and they put together this bunch. Under Reinsdorf's decree. Don't lose sight of that salient fact. The bad decisioning of this organization begins with him.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 02:14 PM) Fire them both! Put this team on notice, if you don't perform you're gone. Jerry Reinsdorf's Loyalty Program called and said "That ain't gonna happen!".

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 08:21 AM) I can't open the link, but this is a common comparison. We're in the "lightning in a bottle" mode, where we reload every year. It just doesn't work when you can't draft everyday big leaguers. Regardless of what you think about a "full rebuild", the White Sox have to draft positional talent better or none of this is going to work. Very true statement, given what we saw last offseason with the team's inability/reluctance to compete for the premium positional talent that was available in free agency.

QUOTE (captain54 @ Jun 2, 2016 -> 03:39 PM) I wish people would stop with "the Sox are above .500 and in 2nd place on June 1st. Everybody would have been happy with that pre-season" That's not the point. During the course of the first 1/3 of the season, the Sox lost a 6 game lead and then dropped 2 games back. That's a pretty alarming swing. Despite that, the season proceeds as is and the status quo remains Hahn's recent comment on the state of the Sox seemed to infer that the same bunch got the club 13 games over at some point, so it's certainly capable of doing it again. Yea Rick. But the same bunch also was capable of a 7 game losing streak and some historically horrific loses. So equally, they are capable of that as well Interesting post. This Sox team is a tough one to figure out. It is obviously not as good as the one that started out 22-10, and yet it's not as bad as the one that subsequently went 7-15. The question is whether it's good enough to go at least 58-50 the rest of the way to sneak its way into the postseason. This is an organization with a fan base that desperately needs a shot in the arm of the excitement that a strong postseason run would bring, so here's to hoping the crack management team takes the necessary measures to help make that happen.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ May 31, 2016 -> 10:27 AM) Considering Seattle, Arizona and St. Louis recently got deals in excess of multiple Billion dollars, should the Cubs continue to do well on the field they will probably get the most amount of money in history for a TV deal. Crain Kenney already told the media this off season of their plans and because of the expected windfall they took the gamble and signed Heyward to that mega contract. Meaning they know what's coming. They'll be able to basically sign everyone and anyone they wish because of the TV money they'll be getting. Plus advertising and marketing companies will be falling all over themselves and willing to pay just about anything to advertise with them. In short, they'll have more money than God and suck up a lot of the potential advertising / marketing / PR deals for themselves. There won't be much left for the Sox. Plus if the Sox continue to embarrass themselves and make themselves irrelevant in their own market when their TV deal expires (unfortunately for them at the same time as the Cubs basically) they won't even sniff what teams like Seattle and Arizona got...it simply will not be there. Not a good situation at all. Mark The Cubs were a dormant, slumbering giant of a franchise for a very long time, fully capable of realizing the potential of which you speak but had not. And for over three decades the current ownership group had a chance to get out in front of this and take steps to cement and maximize the Sox' place in the market, but did not. The level of relevancy that Jerry Reinsdorf's White Sox have in the market both locally and nationally today is the same as it was when he took over the team in late 1980. And it is this level of relevancy that Eddie Einhorn mocked on the first day of the current regime's ownership when he started spouting off about turning the Sox into a "first class organization". How has that turned out, now nearly 36 years later? It's pretty obvious. As a wise man once said, "Actions speak louder than words".