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Alexei Ramirez ladies and gentleman

predictable outcome, Quade bringing a walk machine to face a guy unable to take walks

bring in lillibridge NOW

my only real beef with walker, is he never seems to have our hitters ready for guys they've never faced if we make the playoffs, easiest way to sweep us out of the first round is to pitch three guys we've never seen before

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 07:31 AM) Why is Rowand a disaster in CF? he's probably referring to his contract he got after leaving the sox, and how mediocre/bad he's been since getting it

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 12:05 AM) Don't forget Rowand. It's just so unfortunate we didn't get Miggy Cabrera when we had a chance, personality/off-field warts and all. Do you really think we had a chance? I'm sure we had talks with Florida but the package was pretty lackluster. Detroits centerpiece was Andrew Miller right?

Makes sense for both teams IMO, only hangup is whether we can afford the difference in salary

Would you trade Pierre for Fukudome straight up if you were KW? Straight up, salary for salary.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 06:38 PM) What are you talking about? You said that nobody saw it coming and then you were provided with proof that some people did. Admit you were wrong and that's it. It was pretty clear as to what I meant when I said it. Sorry if it flew over your head, and just to clarify, I meant people 'in the biz', i.e. whose opinions matter on a broader scale than some random fan on a Sox message board How many people on here post horrible predictions that end up being incorrect? I'm sure the same people that said Dunn would flop.

The only players we have that give 100% on a popup are Lillibridge and Pierre. Bench the rest of the players!!!!!!!!

I'm waiting for someone to show me more than 1 or 2 people proclaiming Dunn would hit .176 as a Sox player. And I'm sure if I knew any scouts or sports writers, I could get them to confirm that those 1 or 2 people would be crazy for thinking that. It simply wasn't a realistic prediction, I'm not sure how you can even refute that.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:45 AM) This is hyperbole. There were people who predicted that Dunn would fall flat on his face. I did not, but there were a few people. I'd love to see this, link?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:45 AM) This is totally something I've pulled out of my ass (I know, yuck), but I kinda wonder what the Reds plan on doing with Brandon Phillips. I ask because he's got a club option next year and they might not want to bring him back for the years/money he'll likely command. I'd love to get our hands on one of their two catching studs, Mesoraco or Grandal. But Beckham's fallen so far in the last year and a half that they'd probably fall over laughing if such a deal were offered. We have a piece for Montero from the Yankees, his name is John Danks. Danks for Montero + Gardner ?

I'd still rather keep Kenny than Ozzie. Ozzie's been nothing but problems the last few years, a lot of it having to do with his f***ing family being interjected into his job as the Sox manager. The two things should've never be allowed to overlap, something Jerry should've put his foot down over years ago. Kenny's worst acquisition (and one that I actually supported) is probably Rios, as at the time I wasn't aware of his lackadaisical effort, "I'll play hard when I feel like it" mentality.. I just thought he was an all star outfielder who can hit about .280.. I wanted Peavy as did about 95% of the posters on this site, and being unaware of any arm injuries beyond a brief DL stint in SD for elbow soreness (which MRI's showed no damage..), I didn't have any beef with that acquisition and I was really excited about it. And when he's actually been able to pitch for us, he's been pretty damn good.. Crain was a good signing, and Dunn was a good signing (though the red flags were there, like moving to a new league playing a new position (read: Waiting in Dugout with bat in-hand)), nobody predicted this would happen.. NOBODY. So you can't use hindsight with the Dunn signing, because what's happening now (even with the red flags) was simply not predicted by anyone to happen Getting Alexei, Viciedo.. two guys who weren't coveted by anybody in the majors... well, those are pretty obvious to me at this point to be great signs, nobody can argue that

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:03 AM) Indeed. You'd have to be blind to not have noticed this trend. Search my posts, I predicted this would happen He's not an everyday player (Neither is Juan Pierre, for that matter) Problem is, we don't need Lillibridge and Pierre on the roster. Just Lillibridge, as he's better defensively, and can play more positions, and he's younger. Pierre is literally useless to this team, he provides no value (and, statistically.. less than no value)

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:25 AM) A lot of people were pissed when that was even brought up. They said no way to a Gonzalez for Beckman straight up trade. But that was way back then when he was referred to as the "Bacon Slayer" around here. And Terry Boers proclaimed him as a first ballot HOFer (So did Harold Reynolds) What an overhyped player, jesus christ... it was ridiculous

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:22 AM) Josh Fields is 28 years old. that he is. i can post his stats when he was younger if you want. he was a minor league stud, not so much in the big leagues. not sure how much 'age' really matters with the point i'm making, maybe you're missing it?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 11:15 AM) I really don't understand how Viciedo isn't a top 15-20 prospect in all of baseball. i'm sure it has something to do with the glove aspect of his game. also, josh fields was hitting over .360 with a .400+ OBP in the rockies system before taking a job in japan yesterday just sayin' edit: also, are there any recent scouting summaries of Viciedo as of this year? I'd love to read what people think about him NOW versus when we first signed him, maybe that would give us an idea of how his talent in the minors will project to the bigleagues

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 02:38 PM) If you watch circa 2004 Adam Dunn, this is not a guy you think "he has a quick bat". Having a bat that isnt quick isnt the same as having what amounts to a slider speed bat, i'd imagine if his batspeed were the same as previous years he couldnt hit say... 97mph without cheating a bit, he's whiffing on 91-92mph now

Dunno about you guys but I'm tired of hearing people in the media, in the Sox FO, on Sox broadcasts...saying they don't know whats wrong with Dunn. My eyes don't lie: His batspeed has gone to SHI*. Some people have said he's gotten fatter too, which I don't know if that's true or not, but I'm sure if a guy like Dunn, who's already not exactly the most athletic guy on the team, puts on more fat lbs., it can't help

Morel is hitting over .250 and isnt a liability at his position, what more can you ask from a 3rd RD pick in his rookie year? Cant believe there's discussion about Brent Morel.... not trying to flame anyone, but this surprises me

Greg Walker on Hit and Run a few seconds ago: "We don't teach a system, we don't teach "A White Sox Way", we teach individual players." :/

"Only God knows"

just wow, but we lose as a team right?

caught a break there, can't ask Beckham to pitch in the 17th inning... let's win this s***