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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 17, 2016 -> 03:33 PM) I've been chanting patience as much as anyone, but if Fowler signs for 2 years $20 million with Baltimore, and Hahn doesn't have something else up his sleeve, I will be more than a little perplexed. Same

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Feb 16, 2016 -> 05:04 PM) Just asking and not criticizing but do you think the Sox would dump Kahnle after trading Almonte for him? No, I don't think it's likely. He was one of the guys I figured they "probably like more than Nolin" but I included because he seems like a rando to me.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 16, 2016 -> 03:19 PM) You didn't list Olt as well but him Sands and Fields are probably 3. Carroll is another one who would probably clear waivers. Good call on Olt. I imagine he'd be the first to go if the Sox sign an OF and presumably give Avi platoon at-bats at DH.

QUOTE (GREEDY @ Feb 16, 2016 -> 02:27 PM) In most cases below average defenders with lopsided splits should. And just not starting vs LHP is far from making Eaton a part timer. He pinch hits (and likely stays in the game) the minute a RHP enters the game. He also would likely be the first backup for all three OF positions and the DH vs LHP. But we have other guys who need to be platooned much more (which you pointed out), and not enough bench spots to go around. When you have to find a lefty for Avisail AND Melky, and probably a righty for LaRoche, you can't afford to platoon a guy who is going to put up 3 WAR despite his weaknesses.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 16, 2016 -> 02:02 PM) The 40 man roster is finally full, which means if they want to bring in another major leaguer, they would have to cut an additional player if they made a claim like this. As to the player, If the Sox see something they can alter, I have no problem with it. QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 16, 2016 -> 02:20 PM) Plenty of garbage on the 40 they can dfa. Taking a look at the 40-man, I actually don't see any obvious guys to dump -- there are guys EYE would dump, but I assume the Sox might/probably like them as much or more than Nolin. Here are the potentials that jumped out: OF Jerry Sands IF Leury Garcia OF Daniel Fields SP Scott Carroll SP Brandon Brennan RP Tommy Kahnle RP Zach Phillips RP Michael Ynoa

QUOTE (GREEDY @ Feb 16, 2016 -> 02:09 PM) Wat? Did you not understand why I bolded a portion of your post? I was trying to highlight the part I disagreed with without removing all of the context.

QUOTE (GREEDY @ Feb 16, 2016 -> 02:03 PM) Melky was an elite LF defender during his prime. Now he is a poor defensive outfielder and even if you think his bat will return to career averages this season I don't see anyone claiming his defense will get better. He shouldn't start vs LHP. Eaton is a poor offensive player (.291 wOBA, .054 ISO) vs LHP and a below average defender. In a perfect world he doesn't start vs LHP. How is that nonsense? So every player without neutral platoon splits should be a part-timer?

No, he hasn't been good in the majors, and that's why he was DFA'd. However, he did fine in the minors, is a formerly highly regarded prospect, and would presumably be happy stashed in Charlotte. And the Sox still need SP depth. And we are actually in a position to win the claim for once. http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...&position=P

QUOTE (GREEDY @ Feb 16, 2016 -> 01:27 PM) In a perfect world Eaton shouldn't face LHP: This is easily the furthest stretch of the three, but Eaton has zero career HRs vs LHP and sports a .686 OPS. If his defense continues to be below average then he is not an everyday player on a good team IMHO. wat

That's the first that I had heard about injury problems contributing to his "late start." Cool stuff, thanks!

QUOTE (SoxSteve @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 05:49 PM) Dude i get it. Just making a point if i guy has all those strikeouts and errors and Horsh%^#tt OBP and his stats have been on a steady decline then don't bring up how good his WAR is and tell me he is a better fit than Fowler. Fowler fits our team better then Desmond because of his OBP and better outfield defense than Melky or Garcia. I agree that Fowler is a better fit, but it isn't because you don't give a s*** about WAR. In fact, the entire post I made answering your question MADE THE CASE that Fowler is a better fit, according to WAR.

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 04:31 PM) Listen WAR follower... I know, I know, but it gets lonely here in my Mom's basement and the batteries in my calculator died and I have too much social anxiety to go to CVS and get more. I get cranky and I need a Snickers.

QUOTE (SoxSteve @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 02:35 PM) And for those WAR followers how does a guy who has averaged 24 errors and 171 strikeouts over the last 3 years with a 311 OBP have a good war? Maybe a good fit for some teams but for us not good at all IMO. Thanx P Did you read my original reply to your WAR question? Context is the key to both. Not trying to be a jerk (I'm willing to explain), I just don't want to type out another long explanation if you won't read it.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 04:49 PM) IIRC he was very down on Sale initially, right? Yes, much to the extreme chagrin of SoxTalk.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 12:46 PM) Not sure where I heard about Soxtalk first but my hazy memory seems to recall it like this: I was posting on WSI... They were being their usual tyrant like selves... A poster there sent me a PM saying, "these guys are douche bags and you're cool. Come join Soxtalk, where douche bags aren't welcome." That was likely Jason. This site is the bees knees... I've met up with posters at games ( when the Sox play the Angles here in California ), had posters hook me up whenever I'm in Chicago, been banned for posting my loco muses of poop, and over all have had a wonderfully beautimous time. Long live Soxtalk! poop

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 01:00 PM) I saw Heyman on MLB Network and seeing Desmond's stats makes me think he was one of the more consistent SS in baseball and would be a good option for the Sox. I have always thought Saladino would work better in a super sub role in the IF. Heyman believes the Sox need the upgrade at SS more than the OF I think Heyman is emphatically wrong about that.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 10:27 AM) How do we know the Sox haven't already locked up some of that top talent? How do we know that the government isn't being run by super-intelligent space monkeys that live in the center of the moon? We don't, but there's no evidence to suggest that it's the case.

I'm so f***ing tired of this s***. I want to know how I feel about my team in 2016. Pitchers and catcher report like tomorrow.

QUOTE (SoxSteve @ Feb 11, 2016 -> 04:29 PM) Question for some on this board. What is up with this WAR fascination when determining if the guy is a good fit or not? I see alot of post where this guy is a 2 WAR and this guy is a 3 WAR. I'm not against any metrics at all and teams should try to use everything at their disposal to win games but WAR is the last thing i look at when determining if i want the player on my team. I don't need the WAR number of CESPEDAS, GORDON or UPTON to know that i wanted them on the Sox. I have no idea what is was not should i care. All i know that i wanted any of them with Gordon and Upton being most desirable because of the OBP. Some teams probably wanted Cespedas because they need the power. To each there own. Do most here look at war for a determination on what fits the Sox best? To me it's a non factor but maybe I'm in the minority. Thanx It's a very convenient short-hand that gives us an idea of the magnitude of impact a guy would make. So, for example: We all wanted Justin Upton on the team. We all agree that he would improve us via higher OBP, more power, and slightly better defense. But his cost is very high. Is he worth it to the White Sox? We all know he's better, but how can we tell that he would be "worth" the resources he would cost? By using WAR, we can quickly get a sense for where the biggest "black holes" are in our team, from the perspective of total value. When you look at the projections, it shows that Garcia looks like a 0 WAR guy, and Upton looks like a 4 WAR guy, so we say that making that specific upgrade could mean the difference of up to 4 wins, which is obviously huge. Compare that to Saladino, who projects as a 2 WAR guy, and Desmond, who projects (at the most optimistic) as a 3 WAR guy, and we see that the difference might only be about 1 win. So we conclude that getting a guy like Upton would have made a much larger marginal impact than getting someone like Desmond, and probably a wise use of resources (assuming the resources were there in the first place). It's essentially just for context and comparison. All of the specific performance numbers you mentioned are what make up the WAR, but it's close to impossible for us to accurately compare their relative values all at once. WAR let's math determine that so we don't just have to rely on our gut feelings. You may feel like defense is the biggest team issue, and I may feel like OBP is our biggest issue. Both of us might be right, but who knows? If you're a GM, you want an objective way to weigh the magnitudes of those factors, both in terms of your team's composition and the options available to replace them.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Feb 11, 2016 -> 03:55 PM) If we signed Desmond I'd rather try him in the outfield, platoon Avi/Adam and let Tyler stay at short. I know that's not going to happen but I'd prefer that route. ...which shows you how wrong Heyman is when he says that a SS upgrade is a better fit than another OF. Which is why we should sign a real OF instead.

This is not a solution.

I think the best system is to do away with the QO altogether. Revenue is at a record high and teams are more aware of service time/asset cost than ever. With any semblence of proper planning, practically every team can afford to extend its superstars if it really wants to, and they all know well enough to trade them otherwise. The compensation for losing the player is the monster package of prospects to acquire when you trade them, or it's the 6 best years of the player's career you got to use.

Orioles back in on Fowler. Hahn continues to dick around. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/02/orio...ter-fowler.html

QUOTE (Dunt @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 05:08 PM) Sox brass is going to get pounded if Avi is your starting RFer And they should, honestly. When the market is completely flush with options and prices are lower than they've been in years, you have to make a move that makes as much sense as this one has.