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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 11:34 AM) Under normal circumstances (i.e. 2014) I would totally agree with Shys. It's no longer normal circumstances. We're now staring over an abyss, that makes more drastic responses something we need to consider. No we're not, lol. We're already IN a rebuild. Just because a bunch of guys are having s***ty years doesn't mean you blow up again. Samardzija will be traded or QO'd for a pick, Melky will bounce back to some degree, and Robertson and LaRoche (though the latter has been slumping recently) are fine. Eaton will bounce back. Should be another eventful offseason. Fortunately it looks like Rodon is here to stay, so our top three starters are affordable and locked up. Danks has another year so that is what it is. We go into the offseason searching for a #4 starter, 3B, and C. We'll still have a bunch of strong bullpen pieces in place. Danks remains the only albatross and he's only got one more year.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 12:22 PM) Pitchfork crowd....not pacified in the least. (Although we have proven one thing, that we can rehabilitate guys like Humber and Noesi, to a point...only to dump them for nothing in return but the loss of that valuable playing time and experience which SHOULD have gone to a long-term solution from the minors but couldn't since there was nobody ready in the minors.") Shudders thinking of Carroll facing the Rangers the way they're going right now, which is probably why they want to protect Rodon after his last outing. "Good luck Jamie, take one for the team, buddy!" Where's that long-term solution?

QUOTE (MEANS @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 11:19 AM) Carrol up, Noesi DFA'd Welp, that should get the wins rolling in.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 10:00 AM) Let's use LA for instance. You are at least asking for a package starting with this: Corey Seagar Julio Urias Joc Pederson Howie Kendrick His point is that LAD would never do that, so this is a pointless discussion.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 04:31 PM) FIRE SOMEONE DFA SOMEONE OTHERWISE YOUR ASS SHOULD BE ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK.

O/U Runs scored by White Sox tonight: 0.5

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 10:14 PM) In his 3 pre Steroid seasons he was 68, 94, 77. Evidence to support my claim.

Whatever

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 01:19 PM) How long does he have to be this bad before we use that term? 4 months? 6? How much money would you like to put on him being worth 4+ fWAR over his full contract, which would be a significant overpay for that production level? Melky Cabrera is not a true-talent 52 wRC+ hitter.

Re-draft has Hoffman at #2, Schwarber at #3.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 13, 2015 -> 04:51 PM) What is Harrelson saying? Quietly steaming? "You can't keep giving them gift runs if you're going to put any kind of winning streak together." "The first rule of baseball..."

Alexei is the worst player in the league this year.

WHAT THE f*** IS ALEXEI'S PROBLEM? He's f***ing terrible. f***ing god f***! He's like a little leaguer this year

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 12, 2015 -> 08:25 AM) I'm a hater of the term "Hater". Please stop. I hate hate haters! www.youtube.com/watch?v=byTNVYOVxdQ

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jun 12, 2015 -> 07:36 AM) I wanted to start the thread earlier (busy the rest of the day) to keep the streak going. I hope that's alright with everyone. Everything you do is alright when you're carrying our team through a winning streak.

The thing is, even if only Abreu gets hot, we're going to start winning a bunch more games.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 11, 2015 -> 12:41 PM) Avi somehow lost .2 fWAR last night. Sometimes I'm really not sure how the defensive metrics are working because was he expected to catch the ball in the 9th? That was a smart play keep the ball in front of you don't turn a single into a triple, even with a 2 run lead you just don't want to give away runs. QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jun 11, 2015 -> 12:43 PM) How does one defensive play have that much of an impact on his WAR? It didn't -- their defensive metrics only update every week or so, so you were seeing a change from several games that just got applied.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 11, 2015 -> 08:50 AM) Since being 8-14, they have played 4 over .500 without playing well. Rodon in the rotation helps. Sale, IMO, getting up to speed after missing spring training helps. Q is been much better lately. Get Samardjiza going, some guys starting to hit better, and who knows what happens. As great as everyone wants to make out the AL Central, each team has some major flaws. The fact that the Sox probably have a much better record than they should I find encouraging. They have to regress to the mean which would mean some guys are really going to be playing pretty well soon. There is no question in my mind Melky will be much better. Eaton will be much better. Alexei will be much better. Abreu will be much better. To me the key is Samardjiza. If he starts pitching like they thought he would when acquired, it is going to be hard to beat this team. That would be 4 top guys. It is so funny how little respect Q gets. The advanced numbers say for the past 3 1/2 seasons, he's been just as good as Jon Lester. Yet he makes more than $100 million less, and is younger. This is how I see it. There's certainly no guarantee that all the stuff the should happen actually will happen, but we are far, far from the point where the team has no chance to win. We're 58 games into a 162 game season and two under .500.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jun 10, 2015 -> 07:36 PM) Oh I completely get that. I think the Robin-bashing is wrong and I actually don't pin much if any of the current woes on him. I'm saying that I'm not seeing any of what Dick Allen is saying in this thread. If he was criticising the people celebrating it he'd have a point. He's saying "Soxtalk doesn't want him managing and now Soxtalk wants him managing!". I don't see that. QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jun 10, 2015 -> 07:47 PM) To me, this just demonstrates Robin's lack of passion for the job. I have no problem with a parent attending his daughters graduation. However, any manager who really had a strong commitment to the position (and to the team) would minimize the time away. I doubt there is another manger in the league that would miss 3 games for this occasion. Almost all would miss one. Some would miss two. Missing an entire series just shows that our manager would rather have a vacation instead of working. That's a problem. As if on cue, haha, 11 minutes later.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 11, 2015 -> 08:05 AM) You know as well as I do that it's not just the pitches . It's the location and the difference in speed between them and how well you outfox the hitter.Not only making the hitter think about which pitch he's getting but in what location. Well yeah. QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 11, 2015 -> 08:05 AM) Danks has enough pitches just not the command or the difference in speed between them. I said having three good pitches, is the key. Good probably meaning average or better. Danks has a four seamer, a cutter, a change, and a curve. Of those four, only the change plays above average when he's on. The cutter is probably a 50. The curve is a "show me" pitch and the fastball is dog-s***. So yeah, one good pitch and one average.

I'm pretty sure that Guerrero has a clause in his contract that allows him to become a free agent at the end of the year if he's traded. Makes him MUCH less valuable to whoever gets him.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 10, 2015 -> 05:33 PM) He is correct for the most part although his version of mechanics is in line with the Andrews/wilk group out of birmingham. The one aspect that still concerns me which he didn't address is the follow through. This will be the continuing problem of high pitch counts and walks. The author states that he get past some issues due to the arm strength and this may be an issue later on due to the poor deceleration phase. Price does the same type of thing, right?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 10, 2015 -> 06:19 PM) Only Soxtalk would complain the manager they complain is managing won't be managing.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 10, 2015 -> 03:04 PM) Fire Parent!

This is the device the Sox are using to make the lineups now: