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“Elmer Bible” is an 80 grade name, though

That was my reaction too, lol

Ahh, ok.

I’m asking this question legitimately, because, as we all know, the social media space has turned into an animate cloud of malignant, cancerous unreality and contradiction: When was the last time Bob Nightingale rumored something that actually occurred for the White Sox? It seems like it might be never, but I really can’t keep track.

Not a bad deal on paper, I just continue to question how the white Sox prioritize their spending every season. It isn’t a ton of money, but it IS significant, and it doesn’t address their top three needs It will make a lot more sense when/if Kimbrel is traded, of course. And if that trade is decent, I’ll like this signing.

Very interesting

For sure, and in hindsight, it’s hard to argue his choice to sacrifice his earnings for the benefit of his personal development wasn’t absolutely wise. If he didn't start adjusting to the league for another couple years, there’s virtually no shot that he would have done what he just did this season. It’s nonsense to incentivize a player to do something other than what is going to lead him to reach his ceiling. We’re all lucky as fans that Ohtani ignored the incentive.

I THINK it was two years. He would have needed to be 25 years old.

Might be part of the reason I can’t tell the difference lol

Heyman reporting he’s going to be posted tomorrow, which means his thirty day window would begin. Given that a lockout would freeze transactions, does that mean he’s going to rush and sign before dec 1?

Same thing as CVS or Walgreens. Maybe only in nyc?

I’m gonna be honest: When I go into a chain pharmacy, I don’t think I even consciously register whether it’s a CVS, Walgreens, Duane Reade, etc.

The problem with this line of thinking is that there simply aren't REMOTELY enough examples of hitters that have made the transition to be able to generalize like you are. Suzuki is way better and, more importantly, WAY different than Tsutsugoh, even when Tsutsugoh was in his prime -- simply the fact that they both hit thirty-plus homers is not enough to compare them. It would be like saying Fernando Tatis and Pete Alonso are similar because they both hit thirty-plus homers this year. There's reason to be skeptical, yes, but the only way to project is to use scouting and evaluate the players as individuals -- which maybe we can't do well from where we are, but the conclusion should be uncertainty, not pessimism. Or, put another way, the skepticism should come from our lack of ability to draw a clear conclusion, not from a sloppy conclusion we DID draw from a lack of data. Also, there are some small parks in Japan (Jingu, Tokyo Dome, Yokohama), but there are just as many cavernous, pitcher friendly stadiums (Sapporo, Chiba, Nagoya). Homerun numbers are not inflated over there at a league-level. Finally, I think it's important to point out that, contrary to what I think most people believe, the players that get posted by NPB are RARELY the best players in the league. They are invariably GOOD players relative to the league (nearly always past their primes), but NPB teams work hard to keep their superstars. The reason that Seiya is so intriguing because this is the first time since Hideki Matsui that a player is posted that is arguably the best overall hitter in the league. I think you can make a case that Masataka Yoshida and Munetaka Murakami might be better overall hitters or prospects, but it wouldn't a definitive one, and neither of those guys just had the season that Seiya did. I can tell you that, for sure, how Seiya fares will have a major affect on how I evaluate the hitters in Japan for years to come, because we simply haven't been able to see someone like him, in his prime, take a real shot at it... really since Ichiro. Even Matsui was significantly older and clearly out of his athletic prime when he made the jump (he used to play CF, if you can believe it). It's going to be interesting.

Clip of one of the Carp oeundan's Seiya songs, complete with alternating rising and sitting, lol: I remember seeing this in person when I went over there to see some games in... 2016? It's a pretty arresting effect from far away (our seats were pretty far up behind home plate).

Jim Allen updated his profile page for Seiya, very in-depth as always: https://jballallen.com/guess-whos-coming-to-dinner/profile-seiya-suzuki/

Scott Boras is a very successful, very sleazy, salesman. He will say anything to maximize his earnings, just as the owners will do for their own. There are no white knights here. There is no wisdom being expressed, only marketing.

Yeah right

I just want to say thanks for considering this perspective.

If you're going to quote a post, please don't ignore the entire conversation before it. The whole discussion has been predicated on the conditional that Rodon isn't injured.

The fact that they decided they could only have one is precisely the issue.

If they know he's hurt or broken, this decision is correct -- and time will tell. My fear is that it's more that they didn't feel like they could tie $18m up into a guy who, despite tremendous upside, isn't a slam dunk to give them 150 innings, and if that's the case, it might still be the correct move, but it's also a sign that they're probably about to cry poor again this offseason.

The only way that the Rodon QO decision wasn't the dumbest decision the White Sox FO has made in years is if Rodon needs offseason surgery.

I hated the trade, and was not shy about it at the time. But you have to remember that the winning bid on free agents is the HIGHEST bid. It's really difficult to imagine that the winning bid for Kimbrel wouldn't be a multi-year deal. 2/20, 3/36? There's value there. I think 1/8 is just way off. Though if you think 1/8 is it, then I can see why you wouldn't like it.

No it isn't, unless you're prepared to make an argument that Kimbrel projects as an asset worth significantly less than 1/$16m on the market.

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