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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 05:28 PM) We're paying Dunn $14.5M/year, you wouldn't pay Choo $15M per? I'd do that in a heartbeat, the problem is he probably gets closer to $20M. No, not to play CF from age 32-37 or whatever it'll be. Why would use Dunn's disaster of a contract to justify signing another one?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 05:21 PM) Why? We've got a ton of money to spend just to get back to this year's payroll, let alone the new revenue from the national TV deal. It might not be the best way to spend that money, particularly if the team wants Thompson taking over CF in 2015 or something like that, but the money is there to do it if that's the way we want to go. I bet you he gets $15m a year.

BOOM Ryan Braun suspended without appeal: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/07/mlb-...-of-season.html Is Nelson Cruz next? Might they want Rios after all?

QUOTE (Lillian @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 04:32 PM) I knew that it was a mistake to mention Sizemore. Look, that just happens to be my preference for what might be an affordable solution to finding one of the two decent bats, without a long term contract. He will surely want to sign for no more than all of 2014, and hope to prove himself, so that he can sign a better long term deal. That could suit the Sox, if they are only looking for a way to compete next year. The point is; if you don't think he could help, suggest someone else. It doesn't matter who it is, as long as he can contribute, and it won't require a long term commitment. Suggest someone. That's the problem with the whole thing -- I can't suggest someone. There isn't a legitimate middle of the order left-handed bat that can handle CF other than Choo, who we won;t be able to afford.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 04:46 PM) I've always thought packaging Peavy and Crain would maximize a return, but Crain needs to return and pitch a couple times. It would be nice to see a bidding war from a few teams. I wouldn't be surprised to see Peavy and Lindstrom go to Boston instead, given that the White Sox will have leverage to demand a quick move on peavy but Boston won't want to commit to Crain until he is healthy.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 04:23 PM) I like Sardinas, but I see him as a guy whose ceiling is Alexei (the powerless version). He makes better contact and has been posting reasonable walk rates, though. He should be a substantially better OBP guy than Alexei IF he develops as he should.

Middlebrooks unquestionably has a higher ceiling because his approach is so awful that he could make huge strides by improving it. He's got legitimate pop -- but his best case with his current hackitude is "streaky" with some deep, prolonged slumps. Connor doesn't have the pop to touch that ceiling, but he's got a legit hit tool and a clue at the plate. He won't ever amount to a star, but he's much more likely to be a big league regular now that he's shown improvement on defense.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 04:20 PM) Wouldn't be shocked if it's Sardinas That would be a HELL of a package

QUOTE (GoGoSox2k2 @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 04:10 PM) Olt, CJ Edwards and a 3rd player going to the rangers per Rosenthal. Someone please link to twitter that can. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/359419381257736197

Deal is done, Rosenthal says they get Olt AND Edwards.

QUOTE (bbilek1 @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 04:05 PM) Edwards would most likely by our number 1 overall prospect. His numbers are gaudy. If EJ were to be ranked higher it would be because of him being on the cusp of the MLB. Realistically, if we trade Peavy and the centerpiece ISN'T our new number one prospect, we've probably made a bad deal.

QUOTE (beck72 @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 03:59 PM) Even With Texas off, the only guy who made sense was SS Sardinas. The sox could easily hold onto Alexei and deal Peavy for an OFer or 3b. And fill out other spots with Crain, Rios, et all. Well, I don't know about that. It's likely, for example, that Olt is in this Garza deal, and Odor would have being really useful as well. But yeah, with Garza gone, Peavy is literally the only front-end pitcher available. Should be a good position to be in now.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 03:49 PM) Haha, I applaud you for this response. Lol, I don't know why I felt like I remembered him being a low-ceilinged guy that was surprising people by being rosterable last year, I must have had him mixed up with someone else. I just took a look at his numbers in the minors and was obviously mistaken.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 03:22 PM) It might be the .350 batting average over 1300 MiLB ABs....or it could be the .450 OBP. Maybe, rather, it is the .950 OPS. The 46 doubles in AAA might be it....or maybe the love comes from the 38 SB. Why the love for Adam Eaton? No chance of any of those skills translating to the MLB from AAA ball. No way.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 03:15 PM) I jsut think that should be closer to what the Sox should seek and ultimately accept than what the packages are for Garza. You get Peavy another season and a draft pick. Garza has missed a lot of time himself recently. They wanted to trade him last season but couldn't. Yeah -- it's just so tough to compare markets at different times. The value of Garza/Peavy has so much to do with timing and availability. There's a whole different set of teams with a whole different set of season outlooks now versus in the offseason.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 02:17 PM) And people are more worried about his health than most for whatever reason. It's his mechanics. He puts lot of strain on his elbow with his whip-like, inverted W delivery, and his spine is off center, making it difficult to maintain balance as he strides. It's actually kind of amazing that he has such good control.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 02:54 PM) Shouldn't Peavy's value be closer to James Shields' rather than Matt Garza's? Maybe. The Shields deal was a universally accepted overpay though, and Peavy has 3 years and at least 3 DL stints on Big Game James as well.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 02:50 PM) I'd imagine so. I'm also a fan of his. I heard Jason Parks comment on seeing him recently -- mentioned that his defense behind the plate looked much improved. Still a small target, but he no longer questioned his ability to catch at the ML level eventually.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 02:43 PM) I just want prospects from the Pirates, Dbacks, or Cards Eaton, Davidson, and Owings for Peavy and Crain makes too much sense. I don't understand all the love for Eaton. What's his upside? We already have Tekotte if we need good defense with no bat. Owings, though. Yeah.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 02:22 PM) Nick Cafardo ‏@nickcafardo 5m We hear Red Sox prefer peavy over garza but remain active in talks on both. Much will hinge on buchholz second opinion with dr Andrews Expand Love Swihart. Wonder if he's available in a Peavy deal.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 02:08 PM) Along with the Rockies who have been reported to be on him too. For Peavy I would focus on Rangers, DBacks, Cardinals and Red Sox. Rox have some better positional pieces than SF. Both Dahl and Story are having down years and might be attainable. We could honestly really use a guy like Kyle Parker, too.

Indeed, this is where Hahn can earn some respect around these parts. He's got a couple good cards, let's see how he plays them.

I mean, technically, we could win out.

The way that whole post was laid out was legitimately funny. It reminded me of the first couple times South Park did the Loch Ness Monster/Tree-Fiddy bit. Each time, there has to be more build up -- a bunch of content that seems plausible implying a return to contention with a few simple acquisitions and then - WHAM - awwww it was that gol-durned GRADY SIZEMORE again askin to be a legitimate middle of the order threat! I'm like GET OUTTA HEAH YOU DANG GRADY SIZEMORE WE AINT GIVIN YOU NO $3.5M TO BE ON THE DL

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 10:28 AM) The Sox aren't often in a position where they are looking to trade one of the most in demand pitcher in a given market. The offers for him should be good enough to trade him. Strike while the iron is hot. Yeah, the market is very good right now for Peavy. I think we could get a top 50, considering at least three teams will be bidding after Garza moves.