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QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 09:33 PM) Some video via Kiley McDaniel: Also here: Damn, he's got a good second gear...

From Al Skorupa at a FanGraphs chat:

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 08:41 PM) Would the White Sox dare take Manaea at 55 and hope Don Cooper can sell him on the Sox? If he goes in the 2nd round, he's giving up SO much money if he could come back and prove himself healthy next year. Looks like the Royals are going to try to overslot him or Stanek.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 08:30 PM) Hawkins has 3 more months and possibly the AFL to re-establish his value. Being jumped all the way to High A one year out of high school only happens about 1-2% of the time. Don't forget he had a great year last year, too. And he's still hitting bombs -- he's 19 and struggling with the one thing everyone knew he would need to work on.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 08:28 PM) Who would be 4 and 5 now? Would be hard to choose anyone that's standing out....I would guess, Thompson? Daniel Webb? Snodgress? Sanchez still? You certainly can't argue Beck's moved up significantly....he should be near the back end of the Top 10. Gotta be Sanchez then Thompson

Hate this pick. Might not even stay at SS. Good pitchers on the board

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 06:47 PM) If he's the best college bat available this really is a weak draft class. Mayo seems to think there's a good chance he moves to RF. He led the goddamn nation in homeruns, lol.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 06:40 PM) What will be the approximate difference in Appel's bonus between this year and what he would have received last? I wonder if it was worth the risk. He will get more now, but he also is a year further away from arb and free agency if he is any good. Slot is like $7.7m for #1. It's more like $3m for #9.

I wonder if he could get more velocity from a lower arm slot. I'm sure there's a great reason not to change that now.

If you subscribe to ****ing cable, you should be able to watch the blackout games on any device. I tried to use MLB.tv to watch games when I was with my mom in the hospital for three weeks and was completely shut out. So stupid. I'm already paying for this game TWICE.

QUOTE (MnSoxFan @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 10:58 AM) OK, my intent was not to call Jeter a great defensive SS initially, I was just pointing out that a guy could make a ton of errors early on and still stay in a position for the rest of his career. I did not do a good job of saying that. And I apologize for going off track to defend Jeter, but you guys are correct that he was not an above average defensive SS. So, a SS can make 50 errors and can turn out to be a decent SS, many of those early errors are also attributed to the field conditions in lower leagues. But to me, no way a 2Bman should be making 18 errors by now. Not sure how many are throwing errors, and those are really terrible if happening already at 2B, unless on occasions of making a great play and trying to hurry a throw. Now watch me be totally wrong and the guy turns out to be a good 2Bman. But I still say just move him, and the sooner the better. Just my opinion. Errors aren't the thing. It's range that makes the biggest difference.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 12:27 PM) A torn labrum in the hip sure wouldn't stop me from picking Manaea. That isn't that big of a deal. The thing is if he's fixable, he's a near lock for top 5 next year, so there's no way he's going to sign as low as #17. Slot value there is $2.1m, slot value at #1 is $7.7m. He's going back to school.

Yeah Omogrosso is not very good, guys. There's worse out there, granted, but I will shed no tears for swapping him with Troncoso/Heath.

QUOTE (mike89128 @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 02:19 PM) This is way off topic.I've been a Sox fan since 1951.Living in Vegas I get MLB extra Innings package.But the west coast teams,except Seattle are blacked out in Vegas when the Sox play them regardless where played,the Oakland series is blacked out.I've heard MLB is going to revamp its blackout rules for next year.Does anybody have facts about the changes.Thanks If it's off-topic, my friend, you should consider starting a thread about it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 12:49 PM) It is a lot different now than it used to be with the new CBA. If you go more than 10% over your allotment, you lose your next first round pick. 15%+ and you lose two first round picks. It isn't like before when you just went over slot. It now means something. Yes, the game has changed now. You gotta do something like Correa and the Astros to get overslot later now. And there's a pretty strict limit to how far you can go.

Is this a snake or an auction?

Someone actually said "Jeter but better."

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 10:24 AM) The preview says Gonzalez's stock is rising because of the development of his slider. They use different balls in college. Thicker and higher seams. Sliders tend to flatten out a little bit when college pitchers turn pro. If his fastball has a lot of movement, that's a good thing, and there is always the possiblity his slider will still be effective with the different ball, but it is worth noting college baseballs and sliders is kind of like projecting hitters with aluminum bats. That seems very strange that they wouldn't use the same balls.

Callis' final mock has the Sox at Alex Gonzalez. I think that if he's available, he'll absolutely be the Sox pick. Personally, I'd like Renfore, Stanek, or Smith if any of those three drop.

That game was excruciating

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 5, 2013 -> 04:25 PM) He battles. He does not give up. That's good enough for me too What does that even mean? He doesn't start throwing BP pitches and losing on purpose? He's walked 5 guys and gotten 4 double plays. He's been lucky. Most of the time, those are going to be hits and runs. He isn't good, he's been passable because he's been lucky. Why do we give him credit for trying? Of course he's trying. He's battling to be a rich Major Leaguer.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 5, 2013 -> 04:15 PM) Give credit where credit is due. Axe just knows how to grind. Come on man, he's got like 30 double plays.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 5, 2013 -> 04:05 PM) They should fire Manto and hire Frank Thomas. I imagine Frank Thomas would try to teach guys how to work the count and get a good pitch to hit.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jun 5, 2013 -> 03:14 PM) This lineup has not worked all season yet they keep trotting it out there. I understand there are not many options but this is becoming the exact definition of insanity. What the f*** difference does it make if you are shutout one way or another? The big fat kid gets to bat fourth and the fast guy gets to lead off. What do you suggest as an alternative? Everyone on the 40 man roster sucks.

I can't see any possible way we win this game.