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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 03:50 PM) Viciedo was 19 when we signed him, this guy is 25. Right, so if the numbers were similar, you'd expect Cespedes to be garbage because he'd be fully developed. I guess I hope they are way better, of course. I wonder if some metrics/skills tend to translate from Cuba to the MLB more, such as walk rate or K rate or something.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 03:40 PM) Gonna a monster market for him. I know, it's just such a scary proposition. Does anyone know how his number compare to Viciedo's?

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jan 4, 2012 -> 03:23 PM) 5/55. KW is all about Cespedes these days. Ugh, so risky

Logan Morrison @LoMoMarlins Following I really hope Ozzies on-field instructions r easier 2 understand than his tweets. I literally have no idea what this dude is talking about..

Everything I've heard says that Cespedes is going to need some time in AA/AAA, even if it's only half a season. The situation works out perfectly then, because we'll have time to see what De Aza and Rios are going to do for a few months, then decide who sits when/if Cespedes is ready.

118 games is NOT a full season, and 130 games is barely a full season

QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 3, 2012 -> 11:18 AM) I think it will be: De Aza CF Ramirez SS Konerko 1B Dunn DH Rios LF Viciedo RF Pierzynski C Morel 3B Beckham 2B L-R-R-L-R-R-L-R-R That's best case scenario with Dunn and Rios doing ok. By the way, when the Sox brought Beckham up in 2009, do you think they probably had him penciled in as a 3-hole hitter by 2012? Kinda sad he's a 9-hole hitter still. If you buy into Tango's lineup research from The Book, Dunn makes more sense in the three hole and Konerko in the four hole. High K, high HR, high walk guys are perfect in the three hole because they see more double play situations than anyone else. Also, according to linear weights, doubles and homers tend to be more valuable in the fourth hole, so your better hitter should go there. Also, that gets us LRLR for the first four hitters, which is nice too. Edit: also, stolen bases play best in the 6th spot because of the tendency for 7/8/9 hitters to be singles guys. So I like Rios in the 6 hole as opposed to Viciedo.

Possible lineup if you think Dunn bounces back: 1 De Aza 2 Ramirez 3 Dunn 4 Konerko 5 Viciedo 6 Rios 7 Pierzynski 8 Beckham 9 Morel I'm not sure which OF I like best: LF De Aza CF Rios RF Viciedo LF Viciedo CF De Aza RF Rios LF Rios CF De Aza RF Viciedo Ironically, based on skillset alone (De Aza being the rangeist, Viciedo having the best arm, and Rios having an 'okay' version of each), the third option is probably the best defensive OF of the bunch, and yet is probably the least likely to occur. The only way it doesn't make sense is if you think Rios' lack of experience in LF will make him significantly worse there.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 3, 2012 -> 10:49 AM) I just remember thinking, everything that's been written about both Danks and Quentin...that Carlos was going to end up closer to $7 million, and Danks, $7.75-8.50 million....something like that, just ballpark figures. They already gave Danks the "expected" $8 million for 2012, we'll see where Quentin ends up. Doubt SD is really serious about signing him to a long-term extension, but who knows. Yeah, maybe they just think they can dump him at the deadline for more than they gave up. If he's on one of his streaks in July, I guess they might be right.

Is it me, or does Viciedo seem exactly like Yonder Alonso?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 3, 2012 -> 10:25 AM) Except he just talked about spending money, which he never does. Yeah, he also said we're rebuilding AND contedning at the same time. He's just syaing words the appease the AM radio crowd. Come to think of it, that sort of is what he appears to be trying to do, however misguided and impossible it may be. Where did he say he's about to spend? Is there a link?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 3, 2012 -> 08:10 AM) Is he really going to be making $8 million? I thought most were projecting him between $6.25-7.75 million, probably somewhere in the middle of that range. You could be right, I saw the $8m figure in some article, but you would probably know better than some generalist writer.

This guy is tempting. But I don't know that KW dropped the payroll to $97m just to jack it back up to $108m or whatever.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 2, 2012 -> 09:55 PM) Who's "defending" KW? If you choose to ignore things like salary, market value, skill-set, other teams' needs, etc, that's on you. If anything, Padres fans are the ones that should be pissed off. Exactly. Wtf do the Padres need CQ for? He'll negate any offensive value by playing league-worst defense in one of the biggest outfields in the nation. He'll hit fewer homeruns (maybe 20, unless he plays a full season for the first time in his career) and they'll have to pay him $8m to do all of it for a third or fourth place team. And they gave up two pitching prospects for that right. I'm no CQ hater, but the Padres are probably one of the worst fits in the MLB for him.

Man, we gotta trade Quentin, no matter which 'direction' Krazy Kenny decides upon.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 30, 2011 -> 11:57 AM) You're right...they are not in the level of nester molina and phil humber in terms of powerhouse. I never made that claim.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 30, 2011 -> 11:19 AM) Every year we assume every other teams players are a fluke and that our players will play to their averages. I generally assume players that outperform their peripherals will regress negatively and players that underperform their peripherals will regress positively. EDIT: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...&position=P

Yeah, I'll believe that Detroit has a powerhouse rotation when Fister continues to pitch better than ever before for a whole season, and Scherzer/Porcello actually improve toward their ceilings.

I like the positive vibes, but you guys are WAY overrating these players.

I'm just praying this man has a plan. If we go into the season with the team we have now, so help me god...

Man, I have NO idea.

Wtf is happening?

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 19, 2011 -> 01:49 PM) Dbacks signed Jason Kubel to play LF....which makes a certain gold glove OF expendable..... You all know where I am going with this! You know, it'll never happen, BUT: It sort of would make sense for the D'Backs to put a package together for Danks, who would be an awesome upgrade for Saunders, and have a really serious pitching staff and be the big favorites in the West. In that situation, it would make sense to make Parra a big piece in the deal and to get De Aza back, who would serve the 4th OF role without sacrificing as much potential. I wouldn't mind it if we got a pitching prospect back too. Parra could really play CF too, it's just Davis is even better defensively.

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QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 16, 2011 -> 02:50 PM) Great minds...are sometimes also idiots. haha, verily.