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Fortunately, this isn’t how economics works. Granted, It IS how MLB salary arbitration works. But not free agency. It may make Lozano feel more justified at asking for a higher price, but at the end of the day, price is where supply meets demand. If anything, Harper’s deal may cause everyone who was in on both to pivot and get serious about pushing to the end game, but the price of the deal won’t affect the price teams are willing to pay. I guess it could increase the likelihood of a pillow deal.

Bill James has gone completely off the deep end at this point.

26 year old player that’s already amassed ~30WAR and can play SS, plus with how the dollar is inflated over time and the fact there is more money in the game than ever before, and you think 22nd largest contract ever should be giving teams pause? If this thing doesn’t end up in the top five, something is weird. ...and my analogy was great! You get out of town Greg Hibbard!

Right. Have you guys ever done an auction fantasy baseball league? Sometimes a good player falls through the cracks because the most of the league settled their guys at that position early, and so it looks like the team that waited is about to get a good deal. But then one or two other dudes in the league say, “I don’t need another second baseman, but if he’s going to go THAT low, I’m in.” And then what happens is the player ends up going for pretty much what the projected value was. San Diego is playing “price cop”

Seems possible/plausible to me that he reason this deal isn’t done yet is because it WON’T happen if the dodgers land realmuto instead. If the Realmuto package includes Verdugo, they suddenly kinda still need Pederson. Sounds like they felt comfortable signing Pollock once they knew they had the framework for a Joc deal done... that could be executed in the event that Realmuto didn’t get done.

Remains fine as long as the White Sox are still willing to be the highest offer. They’ve been (allegedly) saying and/or acting as if they won’t raise their offer until someone beats it. This is just the inevitable offer that beat it.

Ahh, ok. Thanks

Correct me if I’m wrong, as I might have missed something, but this “rumored” Fulmer/Bummer/Rivera return is something one of us just made up, right? Not actually “rumored” at all?

Politics has pretty much become wrestling, and that’s going super well. im sorry.

Very possible. Or they may have offered during the sales process. Either way, that’s a situation where both parties care about the same thing. The dodgers don’t care one bit about soxfest, and Machado doesn’t even care about the fact that his signing will be covered as news.

I don’t know man. Naming rights deals are the types of things where you want to take advantage of media being around. Historic free agent signings create their own fervor. In the former instance, the team wants you to call it news. In the latter, the media wants it because it is news.

I believe that the free agent timeline of Manny Machado and the event schedule of the White Sox’ fan fest are entirely, 100% independent and unrelated.

I don’t think so at all. Eloy/Joc/Harper works just fine. Robert is due up when Joc leaves. Daniel Palka is a DH. Yonder Alonso isnt blocking anyone.

Oh stop

Wtf is going on

One more Harper suitor has moved on. Good news.

We are still in the penalty box and traded all our cash. Orioles are gonna end up with Sanchez because they traded for a ton of money after all the good guys signed. Marlins blew theirs on Victor Victor. I think there might be one other team that still has a good chunk left, but orioles have the most.

I think it’s gonna be more than that. Just because there appear to be several teams involved, and you gotta beat all the bids you would feel good about to be the winner.

Is this based on you watching him regularly? Because if it is, I could buy it. But there are some sample issues with that argument if you’re just going off the numbers. His CF numbers have been much worse the past two seasons as you say, but 2017 was a partial season for him, and he only actually played 187 innings in CF last year. His numbers in LF over that same span are actually quite good. In 2018, his sample in LF is about four times larger. It sounds like you’re looking at the Inside Edge stuff for part of this. Those 50/50 plays you referred to — he only had six total chances at them last year, and only one of those came in CF. Not good that he didn’t make many of those plays, but clearly non-conclusive if you’re trying to predict future performance I don’t think there’s enough data to suggest a precipitous decline in his ability to play the OF. I think that the closest answer to the truth is probably in the Dodgers usage of him, which is increasingly as a corner guy. It really seems like he is a guy who is probably an above average corner outfielder and a below average, but acceptable center fielder.

In roughly 3800 innings, Pederson has a -2.1 UZR/150 +6.1 in LF, -3.6 in CF. This suggests he is basically an average outfielder. Probably just a touch below average in CF.

In 2019, the White Sox should be interested in giving all of their players, especially the younger ones, a chance to learn how to hit same-handed pitching.

Jokes on you guys — it’s the WHITE SOX

It doesn't matter how many fucking mystery teams are involved -- if he's going to take the highest offer, the White Sox should win easily. There's literally no reason for it. No one is in a better position to win the bidding. No one has their combination of payroll space, no incumbent player to block, and lack of incentive to rush or change direction. But in order to get the best price, they have to slow play it. I'm giving the Sox the benefit of the doubt here because this is how they SHOULD be doing it, and they've been operating in logical ways consistently since the rebuild began. If Machado signs anywhere else for anything less than $400 million though, I might have to borrow a pitchfork from one of you guys.

Lol ok

Completely unnecessary insult. Don’t do it again.