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Never forget Matt LaPorta.

Excellent example of how we don’t know what the F*** we are talking about when we decide how the front office works from reading articles.

Good, this thread again.

Right, and 24 teams passed on Trout, etc.

Jeff Hoffman?

The last sentence of your post seems to contradict the rest of it.

Refusing to be enraged by pointless milestones is not the same thing as “pulling for losses.” We want the process to continue, we want to stay the course so that we can be good as soon as possible and for as long as possible.

What difference would one more win make? Would 99 losses really be any better than 100? Dont be fooled by arbitrary cutoff points as milestones. Whatever problems you have with the team, they wouldn’t be any different with 97 losses or 105 losses.

So much is going to change. It’s really hard to take any ranking seriously at this point — more useful just to compile names to watch. From what I’ve read regarding Langeliers, he is as defensively advanced as Rutschman and has pop, but less athletic and far less bat, making his offensive upside a full tick lower. It sounds to me like a Zunino comp.

No one's draft strategy is to end up with only relief pitchers. Both the A's and Rays tried it because all of their decent starters got hurt.

Right, because it isn’t possible to agree on a player. Everything has to be polar. Scouts versus stats! Us versus them!

Also, there are many that believe Jake Burger (and Zach Collins, to a lesser extent) was a pure Trackman exit velo pick. Considering how bad the body and the defense are, it’s hard to believe old scouts were clamoring for him.

Scioscia is a dinosaur still living off the glory of winning the WS fifteen years ago. He had a good career, and should retire.

This positional logjam stuff always - ALWAYS - works itself out. There’s no point in moving anyone for anyone when nobody is forcing anybody. It’s ridiculous to talk about anyone on the White Sox blocking anyone else at this point. When we have two dudes raking at the same position in the Majors, then the time to worry about it. Let’s try to even get there first. If that happens, and no one wants to move, then somebody gets traded for something useful. Its gonna be fine.

The rebuild is in year two.

I saw a post, in this very thread, claiming that the White Sox are LEAVING CHICAGO if Rick Hahn doesn’t bring a championship.

“The team blew when they were ‘going for it.’” Agreed. “Having the same people run the rebuild that ran that being questioned is legitimate.” Agreed. And it has been questioned to death. The answer to the question is very clearly a few years away. “If this entire rebuild is dependent on Michael Kopech, a guy who was throwing a lighter baseball 110 MPH in the offseason a year and a half ago, being healthy, it needs a new architect.” it isn’t.

This board is full of 8-year old children. Yes, the team blows. It’s because it’s full of young kids learning to get good. This is what a rebuild looks like. Be patient or NO XBOX WHEN WE GET HOME DO YOU HEAR ME

Seibu officially announced they’re posting Yusei Kikuchi. I want him really badly because I love NPB, but I honestly don’t know if its a smart buy. He’s had minor but recurring shoulder issues, and I think he’s realistically a mid-rotation guy over here.

Then it becomes 150 innings of Marco Estrada and 50 innings of a guy or two that has established himself in Charlotte. Or maybe Miguel Gonzalez or something.

I think there’s a lot of frustration around here that comes from a whole summer of frustrating baseball from the White Sox. Really, really hard to watch most of the time. But it is the nature of this beast. This is a frustrating process, but we have to let these people do it right, or the suffering we have already experienced will all be for naught. We’ll get through this together @LittleHurt05

Reinsdorf would never sign a free agent for more than he gave Albert Belle, until he did. Reinsdorf would never spend big money on unproven Latin American amateurs, until he did. Reinsdorf would never stomach a full-scale rebuild, until he did. All of that had 25 years of past precedent. The White Sox are undergoing a process theyve never undergone before. Past precedent just can’t apply in the same way it did before this rebuild. Also, your claim about my career/supporting ownership is completely ridiculous and even more baseless than anything else in this thread. It’s like saying “you work for McDonald’s, you have to support Wendy’s executives.” I’ve never met Jerry Reinsdorf. I have no opinion or knowledge of him or his personal tendencies. I’ve been frustrated a lot of times with this team’s direction over the last fifteen years or so, and I’d probably be beating the same drum as you if they’d spent the last two years doing the same half-assed Melky Cabrera bullshit as before. But they haven’t. They said they were going to bite the bullet and try something new for once, something that has recent, objective precedent for being an optimal strategy, and goddamn it they HAVE. They have actually followed through to this point, and they deserve the opportunity to finish what they’ve started. Based on what this team stated and how it’s acted over the past two seasons, I see absolutely zero evidence to suggest that ownership is impeding progress at all. If anything, these people seem more “on the same page” than at any other time I can remember off the top of my head. If this rebuild fails, they unquestionably need to clean out the front office. And if it fails because jerry refuses to provide the resources necessary for it to succeed, then I’ll be the next foot-long T-Longo-Marty43. But let’s give them an actual shot here. Their adherence to their own stated guidelines lately should absolutely buy them some benefit of the doubt, at least in terms of believing what Hahn is saying about spending money.

More bold claims with no evidence.

But again, if we're signing someone in the late winter, it's to literally fill in because we don't have enough actual prospects pushing through for innings. Marco Estrada will work just fine. He'll have an ERA of 4.85, but it'll work just the same.

Yep, precisely 1,000,000.