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The fact that TOR got 2 MLB ready players who are recently top 5 prospects in the org for Kukuchi and Sox gotten peanuts while giving up much more shows and is getting mocked by national writers speaks to truly awful of a trade that was.

Come on man. We’re comparing Kukuchi to Fedde here. One is a rental player worth 0.2 WAR this year and the other is controlled through next year and 4.7 WAR. Fedde is much, much more valuable, not even close.

That’s one of the bright side of this. Seems they didn’t have a lot of tough negotiations and was the first to sign all their expected signings (left only $50k on the table). Hope that these guys can start seeing game action soon.

I don’t see Saucke and Antonacci being ranked above their draft positions to warrant over slot. If anything they’re ranked lower than their slot on MLB. Even if this is true, what leverage do these guys have? Do they want to go back to college and hope they can get drafted in the top 3 rounds as a senior? I have a hard time seeing that happening. IMO unless the player is ranked way above their draft position and they player has leverage of going back to college and improve their draft position in their senior year, you shouldn’t have to go over slot for 4Y college picks.

I’m not seeing NIL having much effect on college players in mid rounds thus far. Only 4 college players from rounds 3-6 went over slot and Sox has 2 of them. The Sox somehow have to overpay for college players for whatever reason, guys like Steele Walker and Gavin Sheets. A team like Reds who loaded their draft with top 100 players is able to pay their college picks at slot.

The Sox are paying Casey Saucke and Sam Antonacci just about as much as Reds are paying Mike Sirota and Peyton Stovall.

Who from day 3 that are expected to sign for overslot - Shepardson? Pierce George?

White Sox gonna be White Sox. While they landed a top 10 quality kid, the class is incredibly shallow as usual and I suspect they have money left they aren’t going to spend and trade away at some point.

Who do they got to work with besides those two? Eloy is good for 100 games a year at DH, their farm is still middle of the pack, and JR isn’t willing to open up checkbook for high end free agents. Whoever’s taking over has their work cut out for them.

Waiting for Bob to tweet that TLR will be brought in as the head of search committee to fill these roles.

Davis looks like a solid signing.

Having their reasons doesn’t make it the right move. Just like they were reasons to trade for Claypool, signing Pringle, or drafting Velus Jones. I hope we could see those reasons translate into on field results soon, I’m not sold on the Poles/Eberflus combo yet, but time will tell here.

Unless they go after one in the draft, they’d have to pay a decent amount even for the next tier tackles.

Hard to imagine Edmund fitting better than Roquan TBH. I’ve read that Eberflus wanted a playmaker and a turnover machine from this position and Edmunds is not that.

Love the Edwards signing but I would have prioritize DL/OL over Edmunds. They pretty much have to go after linemen with the first 3 picks.

They could had Roquan and Edwards for $26.5M AAV (and a high 2nd had they not wasted it on Claypool). Roquan has one more year with slightly higher guarantee. I don’t think at the end it makes material differences where you need burn bridges with a star player who’s building legacy with your franchise. Unless the coaching staff feels that Edwards could anchor the defense better than Roquan.

Roquan got $60M guaranteed. I wonder if that was the number Roquan wanted from the Bears and end up not getting.

It is not incredibly team friendly. I wouldn’t even call it team friendly. WR is one position you get good production immediately from rookie contracts. See 2022 Mooney.

They have a number of holes on the team and meeting the salary floor shouldn’t have been an issue.

I see Moore as more of a good #2. He caught 21 TDs in 5 seasons and Brown caught 23 in just 3 with Titans. Brown is definitely a bigger body guy with better measurements and a legit red zone target. Put it this way, if Bears were to trade the #1 pick and take a $20M cap hit I would expect a chance at a franchise changing defender or a #1 receiver in addition to future picks.

Most of the mock trades had teams paying 20% above the #1 pick trade value for it. This is definitely underwhelming, and Moore’s contract is going to eat into our cap space.

Moore isn’t a number 1 WR and we aren’t getting a franchise changing defender at #9. Not a fan here.

I want to give s%*# to the Sox for this move, but I find it hard to. Look at it this way, it’s hard to see this deal being in the negative value. Even if he’s averages 2 WAR during his age 28-33 seasons, this is still a fair value deal. He was a 5 WAR player back in 2018 and coming off a 3 WAR season, I could see him being an above average player if he’s healthy again and take advantage of hitting at GRF. Only reason to hate on this move is this isn’t a move that would put them over the top, but at this point no single move would. Let’s just hope we can get another bat at 2B and round out the team.

That’s a weird take. MLB is the only sport that gives prep players options to go to college or turn pro. NFL and NBA forces players to go to college. Great players in college basketball turn pro after a year if they think they’re a lottery pick anyways. In facts players have long complained about having to play in college with minimum compensation that now NBA allows prep players to play in the G League for a year and become eligible for draft.

Most of the guys you mentioned are past their prime player and did not rebound elsewhere. So yea, this is mainly a byproduct of targeting low end of the market for bargains, bad scouting and player analytics in general.