thxfrthmmrs

On Bassitt vs Beck and Thompson - I will take the surest thing and also the one with the most potential. Bassitt easily. Let's see who the third guy is. I don't think it's a big name and I will go out on a limp and say Jordan Guerrero.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:59 AM) So it's just Bassitt + Semien? That's better than Semien, Trayce and Beck! Not really, Bassitt has more value than both Thompson and Beck

Bassitt? f***KKKKKKK

Revisiting this. Sox paid expected value for LaRoche and slightly underpaid for Robertson. Not bad.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 11:51 PM) I should hate all this money and commitcommitment but RICK HAHN JUST DROPPED HIS BALLS ON THE TABLE AND THEY ARE QUITE LARGE. Tomorrow Sox will announce the surprise signing of Jon Lester. Hahn then stood up on a table at the meeting, pulls down his pants jizzes on everyone's face. Theo and Jed gets the biggest load.

QUOTE (Real @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:07 AM) can someone post an update to our payroll now after Shark+Robertson additions Around $100 mil now.

I really like Seimen and hate to see him go. But Thompson and Beck are really 11-20 guys in the system, so I think overall this is still a good trade

$46 not $40, still not bad, just glad we filled the biggest need a need with an elite option. Payroll currently at around $92 mil (not counting $9.5 due to Shark in arb if we get him). If we get rid of Viciedo, we might still be able to get Melky for $14 AAV.

Upton is a sexy name and acquiring him would make many fans "dream again" as KW said. But I am afraid that he might walk after next year, and we are only left with 2 more years of Chris Johnson. And I would be shocked if Anderson isn't part of the deal, even with the discount that is taking on Johnson. I, too, would much prefer Kemp over Upton. If we can swap Danks for Kemp and a cost controlled bullpen arm, heck I wouldn't mind if Dodgers don't send along any money (also JR's wallet haha)

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 11:10 PM) No one ever said Johnson was worth anything, but maybe it allows the Sox to get Upton without giving up as significant pieces. On one hand he's hit close to .400 against lefties the past 2 years, on the other hand, he's pretty much useless against right handers. He's essentially the right handed version of Conor Gillaspie, but with a $23 million contract. Unless they lower Upton's price by a good amount, that's a steep price to pay for a bench player.

Packaging as in making someone take his dead weight contract. That dude provides no value at all.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 10:42 PM) http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/payroll/ It does not account for arb cases, which amounts to $10 mil, and pre arb guys, which is another $6 mil. http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CH...-salaries.shtml BR has much more in depth info.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 10:35 PM) I believe we are at 72 million. Could be wrong though QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 10:35 PM) More like 65. $59 in committed salary, $10 mil in arb cases, $5 mil owed to Kepp and Paulino buyout. ~10 or so pre-arb guys costing $600K each. Konerko also gets paid $1 mil annually from now to 2020. We do not have as much to spend as you guys think without trading Tank or Danks.

QUOTE (staxx @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 10:28 PM) Shark then go sign Melky + Robertson. /offseason We're already at $80+ million payroll. $30 mil for Melky + Robertson and ~$10 mil for Shark in arb pushes us above $120 mil. Not happening.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 09:50 PM) Anderson will be in it. Please. Sox aren't that desperate.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 09:38 PM) I'm getting more and more convinced Ravelo is in it. Can be wrong though. I've been saying that from day one. It makes too much sense. Though I'd prefer Ravelo to Hawkins as a prospect, much higher floor, power coming along, and could contribute in the ML as soon as next year.

Matt Davidson and Erik Johnson

K-Rod... Worth pointing out the guy end up with a negative fWAR last season. How does a guy with his K%, ERA, and WHIP worth negative WAR you ask? He gave up 14 HR's in just 68 innings last season, with a FIP of 4.50. He might cause a lot of heartaches in a park like the Cell. It might just be a fluke, but he might be someone we might want to steer clear of.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 12:54 PM) He has given a new definition to the word "brick". That's exaggerating a bit, Lance Born Ready owns that definition. He's very hesitant to go into the paint this days (saving himself for meetings and graduations I assume), and he's still a very mediocre shooter. Unless he plays with more confidence and attacks more, he's going to be a very ordinary player offensively. He's also been very bad at fighting through screens, and it's no surprise he had the worst +/- in that game Saturday. It could be that he's still trying to get used to playing 30 minutes a game after 2 1/2 years off, we will check back in a month from now.

Rose is having a terrible game both shooting the ball and defending the ball.

We thought they would re-negotiate Brock's contract as well but they apparently didn't. Another PPV where they wrestle for the number 1 contender. This is becoming the UFC now.

Another game where the opposing QB has almost as many TD passes as incompletions. The pass defense this year is the worst I've seen.

Look at Jimmy's Facebook page, he's such a likeable dude. This little girl knows best: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=290403...e=2&theater

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 06:15 PM) The Sox don't need to send prospects to save money. That's the same sort of absolute clowning they've been doing for 5 years. The Sox NEED their MI depth. The Sox have no 2B. they will have no SS in 2 years (if it was up to me, next year). They need those guys to fight it out and then sort them out. Semien could end up being a nice major leaguer. QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 06:28 PM) I'd do 5/100 on Shark. MUch prefer that to a Scherzer deal The Sox can afford that and don't have to shed salary to do so. Most of all, the Sox need holes plugged. Get a competent LF: 2 competent starters. Another bullpen pitcher. Sox were well below average in those spots last year, which is what dragged them down. You are contradicting yourself a little bit here. To acquire Shark, they'd need to give up Anderson+; Alexei; or Semien plus another Top 5 prospect to get it done. Yet it takes us less in terms of prospects to get rid of John Danks, and hypothetically sign Scherzer and Melky. And you believe we should hold on to our prospects. I don't think I need to go in depth that Scherzer is the superior pitcher compared to Shark, far superior if you look at his 12 WAR versus 6.7 for Shark the last 2 years. On top of that, Scherzer has been solid in his 12 postseason starts vs 0 starts for Shark. I'd trust the former in a playoff matchup over the latter, playoff experience is a bonus for a young team like this. It's worth mentioning you also said we need 2 competent starter as well, yet advocate to keep Danks. Do you also think Danks' contract is a dead weight? If you get Shark and keep Danks, you basically do not have any cap space to get the LF, starter, and bullpen arms that you talked about. I'd like to hear your plan of acquiring Shark and make all those moves without shredding salary and trading prospects.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 06:09 PM) I think Samardzija is a 5/$100 guy and I think Scherzer is probably around 8/$200. I am going with 7/$175 mil. I haven't heard 8 years rumored around yet. Essentially, you'd be paying Shark one less year than Scherzer, and the latter is the safer bet and better pitcher, IMO.