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You want to watch this atrocity for 2 more years? Mitch is what he is at this point, ever since the second half of Nagy’s first year, this team has been struggling to score with him at QB. It’s time to move on.

I disagree. This embarrassing performance leaves no doubt that Pace/Nagy/Trubisky should be gone next year.

Pathetic play calling. Playing not to lose again.

That was a perfectly thrown deep ball.

Love how Katz is using analytics to build programs for these guys. Hell bring back Rodon, maybe Katz will fix ‘em too.

She meant White Sox as JR being the old man staring from the back.

They’re not going to want to go into luxury tax right away. Sign Springer and that brings them pretty close to luxury tax.

So this would effectively take Mets out of race for Bauer and Hendricks, right?

Watching Williams play, it’s not hard to see why Bulls wanted him at 4th, good athlete with the tools to be a good shooter and defender. I think his floor is a good 3 and D player but if he gets better at creating his own shot and gets stronger and finishes better at the rim, he could be an all star and more.

He sold it after Ken Jr finally moved out of the house.

They most certainly do but I’d try to keep Kopech if we somehow can. Make that trade, sign La Stella to play 2B, sign a lower cost closer option (Colome or Rosenthal), and cheap options for LH DH and backup C to round out the roster. Castillo would make this one of the best rotations in the AL.

Would Cease, Madrigal, and one of Thompson/Dalquist be enough for Castillo?

Where does it say he’s more comfortable with Toronto? (I haven’t read all the tweets today) And he will go to whoever will give him the most money and the 4th year.

I don't buy the wife is from Canada and he's leaning toward the Blue Jays crap. If he's dead set on playing in his wife's home country, he wouldn't have met with other teams to begin and have them on a list of finalists. Just another ploy by the agent to get Sox (or other bidders) to up their offer or give a 4th year (if they are not giving it already).

And the comparison probably ends there.

Ideally I would prefer A (as much as I'm wary of a 4th year for Hendricks), but as CWS pointed out in the post above, it really depends on the price for Musgrove. If they spend $13M on Hendricks, their SP4 options are really limited, I am not even sure who is available outside of the 2 Pirates guys that are within their budget payroll and prospects wise.

I think the question now is would you rather sign Hendricks to $13M AAV and give him a 4th year, then trade prospects from the farm (hope it's prospects outside of top 5) for someone akin Musgrove, or sign someone from the likes of Colome, Yates, Rosenthal and Bradley to 1-2 year deals for $6-8M AAV and sign Q for $8-10M AAV.

Here's what I have on current payroll: If it's $135-140M, and they land Hendricks (~$13M), they pretty much have to trade for a low cost option like Musgrove and bring in a depth bat to compete at DH, and address backup catcher through NRI or MILB deal.

No. FIP is an ERA equivalent metrics. Fangraphs even have metrics that compare ERA to FIP called E-F. FIP is meant to take out the components of the ERA that are attributed to balls in play, because hitters and pitchers do not have control over that, and only measures the HR, BB, K, and HBP aspect where the pitchers do have control over, then applying a constant to bring it to the ERA scale. There is another version of this called xFIP, which substitutes the HR pitchers give up with a HR/FB% because HR% should be normalized over time.

Bold statement.

Yep, the Garrett Richards love on this board is still something I don’t get.

I am in the camp that Collins deserves a shot. But even if they they look for an external option, it shouldn’t be someone they spend more than $2M on, that’s why I said it should be at the bottom of the list.

Most teams in the league do not have luxury carrying two quality catchers. 2020 Sox was an exception. Yankees with their massive payroll ran Romine and Higa out there the last few years.

Of all the needs Sox have, backup catcher should be at the bottom of the list.

Cardinals playing all these games must have made Musgrove’s pitches spin better and move a lot more.