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Nope. He’s around the same velocity he’s been his whole career, never topped 90 MPH average. Groundball pitcher isn’t a bad idea at GRF to limit homeruns. If he could be had for #3 starter money on a 3 year deal, I wouldn’t mind going for it.

Yes, but Cooper has already shot down the idea. Because while other organization are trying to gain any advantage possible through advanced statistics, this organization still wants to focus on the fundamentals, like bunting, for example

You could absolutely fault them for not signing either Harper or Machado, and I get that fans have every right to be upset for them not willing to spending reasonable amount for a big time free agent, I feel the same about this whole process. But the rest of your posts are just doom and gloom hot takes, if not overreactions. Time will tell what we have with the rest of this farm. If you do not have any hope of what we have in the farm and plus a top 3 pick coming up, then why bother even following this team or wasting time on a forum that won't change the team's outlook.

You keep harping on this point but I do not think that that’s a criteria at all for Harper. It’s all about the money.

Between boycotting games, social media criticisms, and if any fan wanna take out billboards like Bulls fans did to trash the FO, I think the message would be a lot more loud and clear and would actually impact their bottom line. The difference with the Bulls is many of their fans are Cubs fans who would buy season tickets and go to games even if the product is horrible, but Sox they do not have that type of luxury.

Unfortunately JR is one of the most out of touch owners in sports. He never reacted to recent fan ciriticisms to either of his two organizations. I wish they could or would do anything to win back the trust of the fan base, but I would highly doubt it.

It’s sad to think that 2 weeks ago it seemed like a 3 team race for Machado and Harper and by process of elimination we all thought Padres would get shut out. But when the dust is all settled it turns out it’s the Sox who are left holding their dick in their hands. That’s just the reality for Sox fans, we never get good things.

We paid Alonso, Jay, Nova and McCann almost the same money as Bryce Harper. Don’t call us cheap, call us shit brains.

Starting out this offseason if you would have told me the Sox would end up spending roughly the same money on Yonder Alonso, Jon Jay, Ivan Nova, and Jame McCann in 2019 as Bryce Harper, but end up not getting either of the two whales, I would have kicked you in the groin so hard.

We don't know the structure of the deal. It could be a front loaded deal with the last 3 years paying him like $5 mil each, which would still achieve the same luxury tax effect. Basically whatever Harper gives them from age 37-39 is gravy.

Crazy.. right?

Times have changed. Harper has a much stronger national media and social media following and is on the cover of The Show and face of numerous endorsements . He connects to the next generation more so than most players in MLB and is the type of player that puts fans, especially young fans, in seats. Your excuse is just because Sox never had a player that drew fans (I mean Moncada call up drew fans even when he is nowhere close to the star Harper is) so we should adopt a strategy that is proven to draw fans. That seems silly.

You are not factoring in the extra revenue will generate with Harper over 13 years. It’s the cost of James fucking McCann

When was the last time you saw young stars like Harper and Machado hit the open market? What did they sign for? Adjust it to 2019 money?

People keep posting this do not know the difference between NBA cap structure and MLB payroll. Regardless if the Bulls traded for OPJ then money would be spent somewhere, there are salary floors in NBA that need to be met. The floor is 90% of the cap, which the Bulls likely won't be have exceed by a huge margin.

Reality is if Harper is not getting his money MLB will be shut down in the near future.

I somehow think the overreactions will bypass and people will show up when Eloy is launch bombs out of GRF.

I think and hope so. In fact we should have traded them last week and allocate their 2019 salary to Machado.

Come to think of it, padres offer works a lot better short and long term or Manny. Sox offers comes up short on either

Would we have gotten Manny for 8/$250 with opt out after year 5? Something tells me that we ended up losing out because Lozano wasn’t going settle less than $300M or we weren’t at $250M

Over 10 years though. So we’d need to make this an annual thing. Maybe on Feb 19th of every year.

TP the Guarantee Rate tonight. Who's in?

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He covered his bases one paragraph down. Nothing to see here.

It amazes me how many posters think Moncada, Anderson, Gio, Lopez, Rodon will be the same player as last year, or the return of a healthy Abreu, addition of key bullpen pieces and Eloy, Cease amounts to only 5 wins added. Manny or not, you will see 50% of the future core this year. Natural progression alone will put us squarely into the 70+ win territory.