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Players like him we can quickly find out his value in the winter. If he’s a real prospect he’s going to be Rule 5’d, if teams seen him as an org filler, he could stay.

I’m excited about Bush, but he’s got a lot of work to do on his swing plane. That GO/FO number looks insane.

I am just surprised Abreu is still on the team in 2019 in Ron's world.

It's actually pretty clear that Rick Hahn has been using his burner accounts to downvote and passive aggressively attacking Moncada.

This also have to do with the fact it is the same selected few posters, yourself included, who make making these negative comments. We get it, you are a glass half empty guy, no need to beat that dead horse again. But there is a good chance Moncada turns it around based on comparison to past players. You of all people keep posting like the world is ending after he goes 0 for 4 isn't going to change a thing except for lowering the quality of this forum.

No but it's pretty evident around here that you get off on whining about Moncada and tries so hard to get people so whine with you, and you put that over your fandom for the White Sox, which is questionable at this point. Your posts are negative in nature and do not carry any insight behind it other than constant whining about the same thing.

And are you starting a Madrigal thread in PHT ranting about how Madrigal is a bust and this rebuild has been a failure?

The reason I put 2015 as a possible worst draft is how many of those guys are already out of baseball. 75% of those guys haven't even been on the prospect radar, compared to the 2016 and 2017 drafts. Only guys who has potential to turn that draft around is Stephen and Zavala, and maybe Mendick, Zangari and Dopico.

On the pitching side, last good pick was Gio Gonzalez. The the positional side, you have to go back to Ryan Sweeney or Chris Young. On a side note, boy I thought the 2006 draft was awful for us, but luckily Hector Santiago was the saving grace. 2012 is hands down our worst draft since 2000, 2015 could also be on its way to being historically bad. Others in contention are the 2000 and 2009 draft.

15.4% BB rate vs 7.7% K rate, with a cool 216 wRC+. Bush's contact rate and plate discipline is insanely impressive for his age.

Cue the Eloy is now struggling because he's disappointed with not being promoted comments.

I can see Sox picking up $3-4 mil on his remaining contract and taking a low minor player in return. That essentially it's a $2-3 mil saving for a player who doesn't add value to this team.

You have it backwards. On 7/2 of any given year, they announce signings for that signing period. Meaning 7/2/2020 they will announce signings of the '20 signing period. Scouting and handshake agreements are worked out before the official signing period that's why you see a bunch of signings leaked or announced leading up to it. Now back to the Sox, Robert was signed as part of the 2016 signing period, our penalty years are 2017 and 2018 (current signing period). We just traded 2018 intl money as we are in penalty.

We're in 2018 signing period. We were also in penalty during 2017 signing period. Keep in mind Robert was signed in May of 2017, meaning it was part of 2016 period. We will be out of the penalty box come 7/2/2019

Shades of 2015. All. the. lefties.

So I guess Eloy fell on the prospects list because of injury? Oh wait... It’s also too early to worry about Dunninng or Robert due to injuries. Burger and Hansen maybe. You clearly also did not factor in the great year guys like Basabe, Rutherford, Adolfo, LuGon, Collins, and others are having. The stocks on those 5 guys have rebound quite a bit that they are either at the latter part of the Top 100 or that they just missed it; and the guys in the lower minors who put themselves on the map this year. I think they are clear top 3. Anything outside of 4 is asinine.

That along with to not suck on the road.

I noticed you left out a prospect I would like in that deal.

Or they're busy driving Soria to the airport. Gotta be one of the reasons.

I’d like to get Greg and Dick Allen’s reaction to this trade, but I’m guessing they’re too busy eating crow. #internetdoesnotforget

I agree from the Sox perspective this is a winning trade. However, you cant say the trade is lopsided in favor of the Sox (which was the original comment made) if Red Sox came away with the best or second best pitcher in AL on a cost controlled contract, who aligns exactly to their competing window.

If you trade Moncada for Mike Trout, would that be considered a win for the Angels? At some point the surplus value analysis becomes less black and white, especially when you’re analyzing the value of elite players on a reasonable contract, because you have to spend your money somewhere, you couldn’t fill a team of pre-arb players.

Sale is not just very good, he's elite... You basically are saying if all 3 hits their absolute ceiling the trade is lopsided in favor of the Sox. I mean yea sure, but that's looong shot.

Something that's not been discussed a lot is Cease's improved durability this year. Last year he had trouble getting out of 5 innings but this year he's consistently getting into 6 and 7th innings and without facing a lot of issues. Also he has eclipsed his career high of 93 IP in a season tonight and looks like he still going strong.

Law has Cease jumped from outside of 100 to 31st in his latest ranking. Just speak volume to how much improvement Cease has made this year.