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QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 20, 2017 -> 10:12 AM) Weekend games have been fairly boring recently Mostly because the position players at Kanny are dropping some stinkers.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 09:44 PM) NXT Takeover's have to be the most consistent thing in wrestling history. They're incapable of having a bad one. And damn, I knew Cole was coming but that was a perfect way to debut him. Loved it. Yep, it's almost to a point where I hate to see a guy promoted to the main roster. Speaking of promotion, AOP and Glorious will almost certainly be promoted after what happened at the end of their matches.

QUOTE (Scoots @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 12:03 PM) Not gonna lie guys, I think the Sox are gonna score some runs next year. This is exciting to think about right now because the offense is hitting, but what I think is so unique about this bunch is they have a good balance of different tools they can choose from. They have the ability to hit homeruns, but they also have speed and quite a bit of contact guys. They also have a good mix of righties and lefties. Renteria can do a lot with this bunch. Check out this potential starting lineup... 1. Leury Garcia LF 2. Moncada .....2B 3. Abreu .........1B/DH 4. Avi .............RF 5. Delmonico....DH/1B (He can learn 1B) 6. Davidson......3B 7. Anderson......SS 8. Smith/Omar...C 9. Engel............CF Lots of balance in that lineup. If we can get August 2017 Tim Anderson to play for 3-4 months out of the year, and if all those players put up offensive numbers like they have been to go along with the tools they are known for, then this team will be fun to watch, even if the bullpen blows all the games. Delmonico is also still a big question mark, but I'm let's ride that horse as far as it will take us. He is hitting like a 3-5 hitter right now. Power lefty bat? Yes please!! Bench= Yolmer (I see him platooning quite often with Davidson), Smith/Omar, Outfielder (Hansen?), and Saladino. What are your thoughts? Not really. Many of these guys are overperforming, so you want that to continue and basically everyone else to hit their ceiling? That's just not going to happen. It's likely one of the worst offense in the league, which is fine.

Scherzer to DL. Gonzalez would fill in nicely for him. Maybe Robles +?

That Bham team suddenly became fun to watch.

QUOTE (kingranch @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 02:51 PM) safest as in becoming a star MLB player? safest as becoming average player? How would you rank Kopech? Safe as in a starting pitcher? Or just as a solid pitcher (relief or starter)? I would say with the adjustments he has made in the second half that he will be a pretty good pitcher. Now whether he is a starter or shut down pitcher in bullpen I am not sure Safest as in the highest floor, and I think his floor is league average RF, obviously it's a lot higher if his hitting catches up to his power. Kopech is having a great stretch no doubt, but I like to see him keep this up for a bit longer before I fully by into it. If he can sustain his improved control, his floor would be a solid mid rotation starter. And what's separating his floor and ceiling is command of his pitches.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 11:39 AM) I wouldn't put Eloy above Moncada. A corner outfielder with average speed and likely average at best defense vs. a middle infielder with 5 tools? I think Eloy will be a beast at the plate but Moncada just has the capability to provide value in so many other ways. I've been saying it for a while, I think Eloy is he safest prospect in this organization. I have a hard time seeing him not put up Nelson Cruz (the younger version) type numbers. While Moncada has a spacious ceiling and could be a Robbie Cano or Tim Raines, he's just as likely to be come a Jurrickson Profar or Byron Buxton. I would be Eloy over Moncada in my list.

Great night for Hansen, Gio and Eloy last night, and also first time in a LONG time that all teams won the organization.. Wait no sorry, that bum Petricka.

Moncada coming into today has a 35% K rate and 57% GB%. That number has only increased.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 14, 2017 -> 08:59 AM) Let me put it this way. would you rather have Tony Kemp and a million dollars, or nothing? THAT is really the choice here (assuming the PTBNL thing is right?} We get Kemp and salary relief, removal of a decent arm for tanking advantage, and also another feather in cap for Coop.

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Aug 14, 2017 -> 01:13 AM) You lied about the premise of my post in order to create a straw man argument because you just had to troll a bit. I stated that Kemp, at best, is very similar to a player we already have - Leury Garcia, who may or may not be part of the future plans of the White Sox beyond 2018. You stated that Kemp is an average or above average player? On what basis? Kemp is 25 yrs old (about a year younger than Leury and an inch shorter at 5'6") Unlike Leury, Kemp has limited major league experience posting a .211 batting average and 1 HR in 123 AB . I was actually pretty generous in comparing him to Leury. My "post and premise" was ridiculous? OK have fun trolling. Just to be clear, would you rather have Tyler Clippard, or Tony Kemp, a guy who's at best a "3.5 WAR player in a full season with good defensive versatility", and also cost controlled? And what would you have said about the best case scenario for Chris Taylor before 2017?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 08:02 PM) I'm not trying to argue, just thinking out loud. I wonder if incessant losing affects some young guys negatively, like perhaps TA or even a Moncada. Let's say you are a bulldog so to speak and really love competing and getting hits for the greater good of the ol team. The fact your at bats in theory in August and September mean nothing ... could that affect 'some' prospects negatively. In other words, s*** try to hit it out every time since really each at bat means nothing. Probably doesn't matter at all. Each hitter probably wants to get a hit just cause he wants to personally succeed, but when a team is this bad I know it'd be easy to just go take ones hacks rather than maybe work the count, etc., like u might do if the games meant something. Don't take this as a negative post. It's just a thought that occurred to me in reading your post. You were making a good point in that you can see what a player is made of during a losing season. I was just wondering if my scenario could occur as well. A hitter saying, "s*** i might get lucky and hit 3-4 homers tonight if i go up there hacking.' Rather than trying to do the little things like whack a single with a two strike count and nobody on base trying to get a rally going when down 8-0. It may, it may not. But I won't worry too much about it. Look at teams like Astros, Cubs, Diamondbacks, and Rockies. They have endured a bunch of losing seasons before enjoying winning seasons with the same core group of players. As long as the young players are getting developmental experience, and giving their best effort and competing every game, we should be satisfied. I think we all know you like to win every game, even in a meaningless season. But if losing now means we can win more later on when it matters more, I pick losing now 10/10.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Aug 13, 2017 -> 09:31 AM) Meh, let Kopech spend the '18 season in Charlotte to continue building up his innings. If all goes well I can see calling him up next September to work out of the pen and then pencil him into the rotation to start the '19 season. Why let him waste the mileage of his arm building up innings in the minors if he's proven ready for MLB. The strategy should be to promote him when he's ready, and then let him get challenged at the MLB level and make adjustments. It may be in June, July or August of next year, not necessarily waiting for a September callup to the pen. He should be ready for a 150-160 inning season next year if all goes well.

They should promote Eloy and Sebastian after today, and bring Call back up to High A.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 04:34 PM) Yeah! Something like either of those would work. Or something that gives less weight to a recently graduated prospect, so he still factors into the ranking but not as heavily as players in the minors. I just don't like the binary nature of today you are a "prospect" but after your next at bat tomorrow you are not. In the end, it's all just meaningless labels I guess. Then teams like Astros (Bregman, Correa, McCullers) and Yankees (Judge, Sanchez, Severino) would have us beat. Let's not pretend that the Sox farm system actually produce a lot of quality starters in recent years.

It could really go either way depending on who you ask. Subjectively, the Braves may have a slight edge due to most of their top guys being 20 years or younger and still have a lot of growth left. I think it's hard not to admire what they have done with their players from a developmental stand point. While we have acquired 70% of our top prospects, while the Braves have homegrown most of theirs, taking a bunch of high schoolers in early rounds of Rule 4, making splash on 16/17 year olds in the LatAM market, send them to rookie ball for a year, Low A ball for another year, then skipping High A and going straight to Double A. Yet their prospects haven't looked outmatched but rather gets better at each level. It's hard not to envy how stupid good their minor league development and scouting is.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 01:00 PM) Tell him to stay away from Ian Hamilton. LOL

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 10:29 AM) I don't think Stephens deserves to be promoted yet. The peripherals are good not great (K rate way down) and he only has 11 AA starts to his name. If anyone deserves to be promoted it's Jordan Guerrero, who has been awesome this year and has 40+ AA starts. I dont disagree that Guerrero is ready for AAA, in the perfect world we cut bait with Volstad and promote both. But for Stephens, there isn't much left to do in AA. He was a 4 year starter at Rice (lost some time due to injury) and was viewed as a quick riser because he was more polished than raw. He's not someone you have to pitch 150 innings at a level before promoting him. Speaking of peripherals he may never have great peripherals in the upper minors because he's a BOR type pitcher, not going to miss a ton of bats.

Interestingly enough Stephens and Hansen also scheduled to start tonight. I am mildly surprised neither of them are getting promoted.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 10:44 PM) I've cited Beltre in the past. Have no idea why he stayed in DSL that long. If he had any kind of power as a 3B prospect, he'd be up there. Sox have had him play some 2B too recently. Hopefully the frame fills out a bit more. I've also followed ex-DSL guys like Beltre, Feliz, and Perez for a few years now. All good bats but not haven't developed any power yet. With Beltre, if he has a good glove, he could be a Carlos Sanchez type player.

Outside of the top prospects, it's good to see Bernardo Flores settling down after a rough start at High A. With a strong finish to the year, maybe he joins Hansen and Dunning to start the year at AA next season? Trey M is quietly creeping back up to .240. Still young enough to be relevant.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 10:57 AM) Moncada is putting up quality at bats and is trending in the right direction. He is also blazing fast on the basepaths. I'd like to see them turn him loose and start racking up stolen bases. Prepare to be disappointed. SB attempts around the league are at an all time low, pitchers and catchers have better arm than ever. Homeruns are at an all time high and that's the main focus of many players, even from the traditional non-power positions. Sox as a team also do not run a lot. We have guys like Anderson, Leury, Engel, and even Saladino who stole more 40 bags in a minor league season, but really were not asked to run a lot.

That Charlotte lineup would have been a fun one in 2014. Asche, Liriano, Gillaspie, and Peterson.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 03:49 PM) Corey's Brother. My favorite so far.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 09:16 AM) I'm not sure Jimenez has a potential 70 hit tool. Power? Absolutely, but most scouts seem to think Jimenez will be an above average hitter in the 55/60 grade realm. 70 hit and 70 power = unreal I could see Jimenez being a similar player to Giancarlo Stanton at ceiling, which is a very good player. That's why I said potential, his hit tool has definitely improved since signing. If you look at his preseason scouting, some sites actually pegged him as 60 hit tool after hitting .330 last year. Someone posted on this forum after the trade that Jimenez has 70 hit tool potential (I did not bother checking the source), I don't think that's entirely unrealistic either.