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**World Soxtalk Championship Wrestling IV Thread**
thxfrthmmrs replied to Brian's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
It's hard to cut a face promo when your gimmick is "th boss". Agreed that she should turn heel. I also do not like that the Women's title has changed hand 4 times in the last 4 months. EDIT: the rivalry was better when Becky was involved. Becky is good as face, Charlotte is a good heel, Sasha to me is a tweener. -
QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 19, 2016 -> 05:50 PM) Taking pictures with jurors and the judge afterwards. Love our justice system Maybe they're Knicks fans?
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QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 02:21 PM) Apparently Bauer wanted to burn his finger to stop the bleeding. That guy is crazy! He'd be wiser to burn his drones instead.
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QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 08:48 AM) Tomlin and Bauer aren't any worse than any of the Royals SP from last year. Based on what? I'd debate that. Kluber is one of the best in the game right now, but there is a huge drop off after him. Kluber, Bauer and Tomlin is the worst trio out of all PO teams this year, and it's not that close. The latter two were also horrific post ASB and suddenly caught second wind in the postseason.
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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 10:59 PM) Pretty sure the Indians are the actual team of destiny here. Probably destined to get smacked by the Cubs. They reek of a team who comes up short on the final test, highly overachieving right now and winning too many close games. They've been more lucky than good if you ask me. I have not been following them closely, but on surface Tomlin and Bauer are absolutely not #2 and #3 PO starters. Even if Salazar comes back, he was horrific in the post ASB. Their OF and catcher position players are probably the worst in recent postseason memory. Bullpen is a question mark outside of Miller and Allen. That said, Miller is a real life video game player right now, easily cutting the game from 9 to 7 innings. Their defense plus timely offense has been incredible (only 3 players hitting above .230 in the postseason), let's see how long this could hold up (I'd like it to hold up for another 5 games).
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With Kershaw only throwing 84 pitches tonight, you gotta think he's out there again for game 5 again.
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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Oct 8, 2016 -> 12:16 AM) Rodon was the #3 pick in the draft and easily the most developed and dominant college pitcher in the draft. As it is, he has a ERA of 4 and a WHIP of 1.4 Is that development? What about the inability to develop anyone beyond Nate Jones in the pen? Or a #4 or #5 starter? What about not letting Junior Guerra pitch and then cutting him? Gonzales is 32 - he was not developed by Cooper. He stabilized Gonzalez into a solid #5. Throw a parade. The staff as a whole has been a little better than average at best, but mostly mediocre, for years. Cooper is a solid coach, but there is something to be said for some fresh thinking. I'm laughing at this... how does one develop a #4 or 5 starter? I think Q had the ceiling of a 4 or 5 in many's eyes but turned out better than that. In short, there aren't many pitchers who are long term #4 or 5 starters, you either improve or get replaced. Putting that blame on Cooper is asinine.
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QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Oct 4, 2016 -> 02:26 PM) Urias was on the table for Sale at the deadline. What do you think has changed since then? Urias had a 1.99 ERA in 40 innings in the second half, versus 4.95 ERA in the first half. He went from someone who may need more seasoning in the minors to someone who has earned a spot in the big league rotation. I think Dodger will still offer Urias for Sale, but not so much for Q, let alone a package featuring other top prospects, as suggested by OP.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 3, 2016 -> 02:29 PM) The Dodgers get today. They don't have to wait a year or two, or maybe never to see if Urias hits on his talent. If they were pressured with winning today, they would have traded Urias for someone like Q back in July. Now Urias had a few months to prove himself, and Dodgers are growing comfort with him in the rotation. Also, there are other arms they can now sign that weren't available in July.
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QUOTE (balfanman @ Oct 3, 2016 -> 12:04 PM) Potential to be what Quintana already is does not mean he is worth more. They both have friendly contracts. You simply have to ask yourself if you would trade one for the other straight up. I would not trade Quintana for Urias straight up, the Dodgers would have to add something. Maybe not a lot of something, but something. Q is simply more proven. No, Urias is under control for 6 years I believe, a lot more team friendly situation even compared to Q. If I'm being honest with myself, I'd ask what is my biggest need right now if I'm the Dodgers. They probably need a 2 or a 3 right now, which they have the cash to go sign without losing a top prospect. They just need Urias to fill in as the 4th and 5th starter next season and soon enough he'll grow into that 2/3 they're missing. And if I'm rebuilding the Sox, I'd definitely take Urias for Q straight up.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 3, 2016 -> 12:06 PM) There is no doubt that Urias would be a starting point for a Q or Sale deal. There would have to be more. A lot more. There is no GM in MLB who will give you Urias for Q, let alone "a lot more". Despite what fWAR suggests, other teams do not see Q as a true ace, and that is what Urias would have to go for. QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Oct 3, 2016 -> 01:16 PM) As someone who follows the Dodgers, you have to realize certain ships have sailed. I know many people were advocating keeping Sale and Q thru this past season instead of trading them last offseason, but you have to realize, the prospects who you want have values that rise and fall. That's why if there's someone out there you want, you have to pounce. From the Dodgers, you are not getting Urias in a trade that doesn't equal Sale. They simply won't do it. He's under team control for a long time and is major league ready and already has showed success. De Leon, who I actually like better than Urias, can be had. For Q, you'd hope for a De Leon/Verdugo or De Leon/Puig swap. Again, for Q, you are not getting Urias. It simply will not happen. Exactly. You would not trade a top prospect who has already shown moderate success in the majors with a helium ceciling for another pitcher just because you "want" a more proven pitcher. I just don't know how much the dodgers are gaining from this. The ship for dealing Urias is gone, unless Dodgers are trying to pry a superstar away from another team.
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QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Oct 3, 2016 -> 10:01 AM) Urias hasn't proven much of anything at the MLB level. He is certainly not worth more than an established, young ace with team control in Quintana. Urias is ready to contribute and is entrenched in the Dodgers rotation, with team control for the next 6 years, that's where his value comes from. You can no longer say Quintana has the edge in team friendly contract. I wouldn't say a 1.40 ERA in the hitter friendly PCL league as a 19 year old, then pitching 80 innings in the big leagues earning a 2 WAR season, a fastball touching 95MPH, K/9 inning touching 10, again as 19 year old not proving anything. Is he an ace now? no. Is he better than Q next year, probably not. But there is no reason to think he isn't as soon as 2018. So why exactly would Dodgers pay a package featuring a stud along with other top prospects for Q? Also consider the fact that Q is tremendously under appreciated outside of the Sox org. No GM in history would ever do that deal.
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Boston and LA aren't giving up that much for Sale and Quintana. If I'm a playoff team, I'd be concern with Sale since he has inevitably faded in the second half each of the past 4 years, and that's without throwing a single pitch in the playoffs. Urias has a chance to be something special, no reason to think he couldn't throw 160 innings next year. He's definitely MLB ready, so he's worth more than Quintana alone. There's only realistically 3-4 guys Dodgers would trade him for, and none of which are pitchers.
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**World Soxtalk Championship Wrestling IV Thread**
thxfrthmmrs replied to Brian's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
I smell the tag titles changing hands tonight. 400 is a nice round number for the New Day. -
**World Soxtalk Championship Wrestling IV Thread**
thxfrthmmrs replied to Brian's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
I am close to 100% sure the Trips will end up screwing Rollins again tonight. Rollins is set for a face turn, not sure how I like him as the top face on Raw at the moment though. -
QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Sep 16, 2016 -> 09:25 PM) Semien doesn't even get on base 30% of the time. That's what we need! Saladino's OPS was .674 until he had this good 18 game stretch. It's a fluke, just like he had at the beginning of his career. So that means he's been very valuable the last 18 games, and having a decent season for middle infielder standard, what's your gripe? You have a personal vendetta against him, get over it.
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From a fWAR perspective, if we want to be a playoff team, we need at least 36 WAR's (~18 offense, 14 starting pitching and 4 bullpen, according to 2015 and 2016 numbers), . Here's how the potential returning players for 2017 could fare: Offense: C - Navaez/whoever the starter is 0.5 WAR 1B - TBD 2B - Saladino - 1.5 WAR 3B - Frazier - 2.5 WAR (if BABIP theory is true) SS - Anderson - 3 WAR (projecting growth in year 2) LF - Melky - 1.2 WAR CF - TBD RF - Eaton - 4.5 WAR DH - Abreu - 2.5 WAR (time to move him DH) Bench - 0.3 WAR Total minus TBD - 16 WAR Ideally we'd move Abreu to DH to hide his shortcomings defensively, however, I do not think the Sox would end up doing that, so whoever they bring in as DH and Abreu would combine to total of 2.5 WAR. We'd need a 2 WAR CF (Ideally 3-4 WAR, if the other players do not meet their projections) to make the lineup at least playoff caliber. So someone like Blackmon, Cespedes, or Inciarte (would make the OF defense much better) would be ideal. Starting Pitchers 1. Sale - 5 WAR (easily 6+) 2. Quintana - 5 WAR 3. Rodon - 3.5 WAR (is 2017 his breakout year?) 4. Shields 0 WAR (could be much worse, please release him) 5. Gonzalez - 1.5 WAR Total 14 WAR Our 1-2 is top notch. Rodon is teasing us in second half again and could put it together next year. Gonzalez is better than expected and should hold his own as number 5. Shields killed us this year, we must release him (though I don't see it happening). If we could get a reliable #4 (~2-3 WAR), this is comfortably a playoff quality rotation. But I'm doubtful we could do anything to improve, and I do not think Fulmer/Burdi will be the answer in 2017. Bullpen 2016 =3.2 WAR, could finish ~3.5. Need more pieces in 2017 But WAR does not factor in how many blown opportunities we had as a team. In a perfect world, we need a more consistent closer (however I think Robertson sticks around, and I do not want to see Jones closing). We definitely need another quality lefty, and another solid contributor. Pencilling in at the moment as Robertson, Jones, LHP FA signing, Jennings, Ynoa, FA Signing or Juan Minaya (I think he has potential) In summary, we have the pieces, should be close to a 30 WAR team, but would need the following to be a contender in 2017: - Another core player, preferably a high end CF - A quality DH - A quality lefty out of the pen - Shields to not wet the bed every time he starts . If Hanh/KW wants to go all in, we need to move Abreu to DH, both the eye test and advance stats tell us he hurts on the field more than he helps. We also need to move Robertson off the closer role and get ourselves a more consistent and reliable closer. To me these two are long shot but are must moves, otherwise we will hang around the WC for much of the year and end up missing by a few games.
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Looking at next year, both Kanny and WS will have some decent to good OF prospects to be excited about. I'm hoping WS opens with Fisher - Call - Rodriguez and Kanny opens with Schnurbusch - Booker - Adolfo.
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What happened to Eddy Alvarez's speed? Dude went from 53 SB last year to only 10 this year. Perhaps an injury or something?
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Interview with Alex Call, 3rd round pick
thxfrthmmrs replied to NorthSideSox72's topic in FutureSox Board
I tend to prefer prospects with higher floors, I'd rank Call up there as the best Sox prospect for 2017. -
**World Soxtalk Championship Wrestling IV Thread**
thxfrthmmrs replied to Brian's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
Foxsports has no clue what is legit and what is worked in WWE apparently. http://www.foxsports.com/wwe/story/wwe-fin...on-blood-082316 -
White Sox v. Philadelphia Phillies 7:10 August 23rd
thxfrthmmrs replied to bmags's topic in 2016 Season in Review
QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 23, 2016 -> 05:50 PM) Narvaez has been good so far.Great eye at the plate. Avi was starting to get hot before he got hurt and got 4 hits in his 2 games at Charlotte. Sanchez will get an xtra base hit tonight. Avi has always hit well in Triple A, career .367 hitter (270 PA). Classic AAAA player. -
**World Soxtalk Championship Wrestling IV Thread**
thxfrthmmrs replied to Brian's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
There were plenty of matches in the past where guys were busted open and match continued. The fact that Randy was busted open and Brock just kept pounding on him till the match was called made it seem scripted to me. The way Randy was protecting himself makes it easier for him to cut himself with a small blade then Brock doing major damage on him. Either way I hope they continue to build on this cross brandy storyline/rivalry. Neither guys had been involved in good storylines in a while. -
**World Soxtalk Championship Wrestling IV Thread**
thxfrthmmrs replied to Brian's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 21, 2016 -> 10:09 PM) That was awesome. I'm legit questioning whether that was supposed to happen or if Brock is just that brutal. That's exactly how he should be booked. Definitely scripted, Shane O'Mac coming out and getting F5'd gave it away. -
Just scrolling through the box scores and the guy who blew the lead for Hansen was Aaron... wait for it... Bummer. What a fitting name for a middle reliever.