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QUOTE (SoxAce @ Nov 29, 2015 -> 10:45 PM) Agreed, and I hate the Patriots. Oh.. and that Gronk injury did not look good. Hope that it isn't anything ligament. If it's bone bruise, it's slow to heal but won't usually require surgery. First Lewis, and Edelman, Amendola and now Gronk, they just couldn't' catch a break..

These refs doing their best effort to hand the W to the Broncos.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 03:32 PM) the way Alshon talked this week, he sure seems like he is playing They have had one or two, but look at this clown show https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleve...und_draft_picks 1999 1 Tim Couch * QB Kentucky 2000 1 Courtney Brown * DE Penn State 2001 3 Gerard Warren DT Florida 2002 16 William Green RB Boston College [23] 2003 21 Jeff Faine C Notre Dame 2004 6 Kellen Winslow II TE Miami (Florida) [24] 2005 3 Braylon Edwards WR Michigan 2006 13 Kamerion Wimbley LB Florida State [25] 2007 3 Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin [26] 2007 22 Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame [27] 2008 — No Pick — — [27] 2009 21 Alex Mack C California [28] 2010 7 Joe Haden CB Florida 2011 21 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 2012 3 Trent Richardson RB Alabama 2012 22 Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State 2013 6 Barkevious Mingo OLB Louisiana State 2014 8 Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State 2014 22 Johnny Manziel QB Texas A&M 2015 12 Danny Shelton DT Washington 2015 19 Cameron Erving C Florida State LOOK AT THAT LIST! 1990 6 Mark Carrier Safety Southern California 1991 22 Stan Thomas Offensive tackle Texas 1992 22 Alonzo Spellman Defensive end Ohio State 1993 7 Curtis Conway Wide Receiver Southern California 1994 11 John Thierry Defensive end Alcorn State 1995 21 Rashaan Salaam Half Back Colorado 1996 13 Walt Harris Defensive back Mississippi State 1997 — No Pick — — [t] 1998 5 Curtis Enis Half Back Penn State 1999 12 Cade McNown Quarterback UCLA 2000 9 Brian Urlacher Linebacker/Safety New Mexico 2001 8 David Terrell Wide Receiver Michigan 2002 29 Marc Colombo Offensive tackle Boston College 2003 14 Michael Haynes Defensive end Penn State [v] 2003 22 Rex Grossman Quarterback Florida [v] 2004 14 Tommie Harris Defensive tackle Oklahoma 2005 4 Cedric Benson Half Back Texas 2006 — No Pick — — [w] 2007 31 Greg Olsen Tight End Miami 2008 14 Chris Williams Offensive tackle Vanderbilt 2009 — No Pick — — [x] 2010 — No Pick — — [x] 2011 29 Gabe Carimi Offensive tackle Wisconsin 2012 19 Shea McClellin Defensive end Boise State 2013 20 Kyle Long Offensive tackle Oregon 2014 14 Kyle Fuller Cornerback Virginia Tech 2015 7 Kevin White Wide Receiver West Virginia For the sake of a fun exercise, the Bears 1st round picks post 1990 were pretty mehhh too. Outside of Urlacher, and maybe Carrier and Tommy Harris, there aren't much else to show for (David Terrell. yuck...). Ooops, forgot that Rexy did lead us to a SB, that counts for something, amIrite?

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 24, 2015 -> 09:29 PM) MLB Daily Dish ‏@mlbdailydish 4m4 minutes ago Update: The Marlins are reportedly looking at Roenis Elias and Nate Karns: http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2015/11/24/979...ns-rumors-ozuna … If that's the price....I don't know how were not involved. That's two big league starters right there, for a guy who was demoted to the minors last year. A pretty steep price if you ask me.

Might not be more than a utility guy. Looks like he has a strong arm and does play SS as well. But swing is long and a career .280 batting average in KBO isn't encouraging. Profiles as a power guy but only has one season with more than 20 HR's.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Nov 24, 2015 -> 05:17 PM) So now they can trade Sale for prospects. David Robertson to be more accurate.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 24, 2015 -> 11:15 AM) This article is about as good a response as I could muster over the idea that the sox have "plenty of outfielders". We have 1 outfielder and a lot of DH's who aren't very good with the bat either. Why the Sox were a mediocre team.

Nerlens Noel has been terrible fitting next to Jahlil Okafor thus far, they both need to be around the paint to be effective. I think a Noel for Mirotic swap could be interesting for both sides. LOVE the DPOY potential Noel brings. But of course we're talking about the Bulls FO here, so carry on.

I think I am finally getting tired of the TV camera pans out every time Steph Curry shoots a three. It's not as cool as they think it is.

And guess who's got the front row seat in the Porzingis bandwagon? Our boy Brian Windhorst! I guess he's trying to audition for the Knicks beat writer gig for ESPN New York next year.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 20, 2015 -> 10:30 AM) They're better than the 90's Bulls. The 3-pointer puts them at another level. Could you imagine if they played with a reduced line like the bulls did for a few of those years? G.A.M.E.O.V.E.R! The signature J4L flavor of the month post.

Too early to put names for AAA, they will usually bring in a couple of vets or reclamation projects. Fulmer isn't on the Rodon track (and his agent isn't Boras), I am pretty sure they will at least let him get his feet wet in AA first.

QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 15, 2015 -> 08:28 PM) WWE has a poll asking who fans want to win the tournament out of the last 8 guys. Cesaro is at 40% and leading by 20% over Ambrose. I'm sure WWE will listen.... If they wanna turn Cesaro heel and potentially join the Authority to feud with Reigns, I am all for it. With Cena, Orton, and Rollins out of the picture, it's now or never for Cesaro. Though I am sure the plan will be to have Brock feud with Reigns at some point and lead to a showdown at Mania.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 10:01 AM) http://www.wwe.com/shows/survivorseries/20...nament-28164052 So it's pretty much Reigns, Ambrose, Owens, and ADR in the final 4.

QUOTE (woods of ypres @ Oct 20, 2015 -> 09:35 PM) It sucks his tenure with the team he grew up with was so bad. I really hope he doesn't hate the Sox forever now. That's absolutely the last thing I care about.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 18, 2015 -> 02:37 PM) Wasn't there a rumor going into the draft that Theo coveted Rodon? It would be interesting to see if they would've taken Rodon if he was still there. But based on stories after the draft, Schwarber was the guy they wanted. But they might have said that so their first round pick didn't feel like a consolation prize.

With the new draft system, every team has their own strategy to take the best collective group of talent to stay within the budget they are allocated to. Gone are the days where you take a Matt Bush or a Kyle McCollough so you could limit your draft spending, as you would need to meet the spending floor. On the other hand, the new draft system doesn't always let you take the BPA because your spending is limited, so you have to look at which collective group of talent would give you the best return in the long term. To say the Cards, Cubs, and Braves always took the BPA, especially in recent years, just isn't true at all. Every pick, especially in the first 10 rounds, could be broken down into BPA, or BOA (best option available). A pick like Rodon would be considered BPA, which limit your spending in later rounds, but you are getting a surefire MLB player with a high ceiling. A pick like Schwarber was the BOA, because it satisfy their goals of selecting a bat and saving money for later rounds. I'd have no issues with Sox picking an arm over a bat next year, as long as there isn't a huge gap in talent, which was what LDF suggested in the original post. Picking an arm in that scenario would likely give them a guy they have higher chance of developing, and if it's under slot, it gives them money they could work with in later rounds.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Oct 17, 2015 -> 08:46 PM) In all fairness, Schwarber was considered the best college bat in the draft and we all know how the cubs like drafting hitters.The cubs also had Schwarber #2 on their draft board behind Aiken so to the cubs, Schwarber was the BPA. Schwarber wasn't projected to go #4 and many were surprised with the pick which not only reinforces that the cubs thought he was the BPA but allowed the cubs to sign him under alot. As for Baez, the cubs had their eye on him and were hoping Baez would fall to them so in the mind of the cubs he was the BPA @ #9 in '11. Joshua is spot on in his post. Is he really though? What he's challenging here is precisely how Schwarber end up being the #2 on the Cub's board in 2014. QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 10, 2015 -> 12:57 PM) i can see this debate in a good theory and based on good judgement with available information. with the opinion that sometimes players hopes may not become, if development fails. but when a team is picking in the 7- 10, i will always take, a pitcher, unless a hitter comes with a huge gossip of being a great prospect. some can say this is in theory BPA.... it might but at this stage, the best player for the teams needs. however the level of pitching, at this present time, only the top 2 or 3 are what i would considered excellent prospect / sp. however how can you not look acquiring an elite bat over the possibility of getting a sp. now the only defense in my defense is 2 players who were passed over.... mike trout and giancarlo stanton were never considered BPA, but had a rep for a powerful bat. The Cubs had Schwarber at #2 on their board not because they thought he was the 2nd best player in the draft, but to them he was the second best option when they factoring in the $$(which is the biggest factor), their success in developing hitters, and their plan to develop hitters through the system, then trade or sign pitchers in the FA. In other words, if Sox draft a pitcher who's ranked lower than a hitter on most boards because they have a stronger track record in pitching development, and they could save $$ for later rounds, then they are still taking the BPA from their perspective, which I am fine with as well.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Oct 10, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) Know why the Cubs, Cardinals, Giants, Astros and Dodgers got where they are? Do know how the Braves teams of the 90s became a 15 year dynasty? They took BPA always, regardless of where they picked and what their org needed. I can say that this isn't true, at least not for the Cubs. They got to where they are now through getting incredible return value from their trades. Rizzo, Russell, Arrieta, all worked out perfectly for them. McKinney will contribute at some point next year. They are also extremely aggressive in LA spending, signing Soler and shattered the budget on a years to stock their farm. On the other hand, of the 3 first round picks on their team, Schwarber was definitely not the BPA at the time, Baez was a mild reach. Only Bryant was the BPA out of the first round picks.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Oct 11, 2015 -> 09:42 PM) Hey guys, In the dark and cold days of the offseason (yes, I know some teams are still playing but the Sox aren't, so it feels like the offseason to me), I figured this would be a nice discussion to pass some time. How do you think the 2016 White Sox will fare next season? Feel free to post predictions for individual players or the team in general. Here are some of mine: Chris Sale - 15-8, 2.59 ERA, 259 K's Jose Quintana - 11-9, 3.28 ERA, 182 K's Carlos Rodon - 13-10, 3.40 ERA, 195 K's Adam Eaton - .292, 200 H, 13 HR, 52 RBI Jose Abreu - .302, 184 H, 33 HR, 105 RBI Adam LaRoche - .253, 143 H, 17 HR, 61 RBI Sox team record - 83-79 I might post some more later, but those are a few off of the top of my head. Thanks for the read. So everyone improves and you're banking on just about the best case scenario from those guys?

I think there is a solid chance that Thompson ends up being a late bloomer. His weakness has always been his ability to make contact, but yet he has lowered his K% every year except for last year. In over 100 AB's in the ML, his K% is at a very respectable 20%, while maintaining a 10% BB rate. All in all, sound improvement in plate discipline for a great athlete. Hopefully he puts it all together next year at the big league level.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Sep 29, 2015 -> 08:34 PM) Received my copy of Baseball America today with the Top 20 lists for every minor league. Somebody has already posted the lists from the Arizona and Pioneer Leagues. Sox fared poorly at the four other affiliations. SOUTH ATLANTIC (one player) Spencer Adams, RHP, ranked 16th Red Sox have 3 of the top 5 and four of the top 10 CAROLINA (two players) Trey Michalczewski, 3b, ranked 11th Adam Engel, CF, ranked 14th. Indians and Red Sox each had 2 of Top 10 SOUTHERN LEAGUE (two players) Tim Anderson, SS, ranked 8th. Frankie Montas, RHP, ranked 17th Twins had top two, three of first six and four of top 9. INTERNATIONAl LEAGUE (no players) Yankees had three of top 10. Final summary: One Top 10 prospect at top four levels of the minor leagues. Unless Micah lost his eligibility, not sure how he didn't make the list. I thought Coats would sneak in there as well. In other leagues, I thought May and Alvarez are pretty close. Guerrero and Almonte would make it for me on the pitching side.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 29, 2015 -> 05:55 PM) Rumor is Rose took a sex toy to the face. Still waiting for confirmation. I was gonna say he took a dick to the face in a devil's three way.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 29, 2015 -> 10:57 AM) http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/samsmith/ros...ong-summer-work Well Calipari is a fool if he bought into that hype. This is about the hundredth time Rose has made statements like that. And second, are they suggesting that Gar was also at the USA Basketball Camp, or that Calipari has Gar's number?

This could very well be RG3's last season in Washington. If I am the Bears I'd definitely give him a shot here. He hasn't been all that bad IMO.