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Traded a 6th round pick for an UDFA from this years draft, now traded a 2nd round pick from two years ago for a 6th round pick. Pretty much sums up the fortunes of this Bears organization for the past 4 years.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 11:00 AM) The nearly $200 million will be the problem, not the draft pick. I don't think we have much of a shot at Heyward, but we're talking about our/other people's plan in this thread, not the most likely scenarios here. If we are going after Heyward, a 2nd round pick is least of my concern

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 08:55 AM) Cespedes is the only one that won't cost a draft pick. I think there's a slim chance the Sox will sign a QO free agent with a top 10 pick. I think there's zero chance they do it without a top 10 pick. Depends on how it plays out. If we end up losing only a 2nd round pick for Heyward, I have no problem with that.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 10:06 AM) excatly ..... but is anyone thinking the cost fact the amount of $$$ that will cost. and will the owners allow it??? In Heyward and Upton's case, no. The players shouldn't have to take less money just because teams have to forfeit a pick to sign them. Now if we're talking about players who will cost a pick and won't garner much interest, ahemm Samardjiza, then there is a small chance than they might not end up getting the $$ they're looking for because there aren't enough teams driving the $$ up, or they might remain unsigned till June.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 08:09 AM) FWIW, Dan Hayes, Tom Fornelli, and Scott Merkin conversed on Twitter last night about the Sox offseason. They speculated a signing of Zobrist, Cespedes, and they argued over whether trading Quintana could net a fair return. If we're to go after the Big 3 outfielders, I hope it's Heyward, Upton and Cespedes, in that order. I still think Heyward will hit for more power as he enters his prime, which frankly is the only weakness in his game right now. Cespedes could be a head case sometimes and we already have too many guys who couldn't draw a walk in this lineup.

Dodgers wouldn't have much interest in Micah. They already have Peraza who has similar tools but younger and without the defensive struggles.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 07:59 PM) Couldn't believe Trayce was hitting third when I saw the line-up. Never would have predicted that before this season. Why exactly are we playing Olt and Beckham? Can you just mention the whole team here? That oughta change our fortune

HOW do you throw a change up like that?

27 Balls to 31 strikes, lucky we got out that inning quick.

Bend it for Beckham lol

FWIW Rodon and Schwarber are the only two to make the top 10 from 2014 class. I think had Rodon stayed down in minors and dominated for a few months, was more ready for the majors than he was and put up better stats, then he would have been higher. In other words, this ranking is strongly tied to how they have performed thus far than what their true tools are. All of the other top guys have been hyped for years and have put up better numbers than Rodon thus far, except for Buxton, who definitely merited the ranking for his tools.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 20, 2015 -> 09:50 PM) He's 2-2. Fine with Kane coming back to feud with Rollins. Masked Kane as a face is best Kane. Pretty sure this is only his 3rd WWE match.. WM and last week on Raw, unless I missed something.

How the last two matches played out was very awkward. You would either have Rollins win both matches or lose both matches. Losing the U.S. title and retaining the WWE title doesn't really do much from a story line perspective.

I am pretty stoked that we will get to see Rollins wrestle Cena and Sting back to back, but this also seals the deal for him to lose both titles.

Will the real Viceido please stand up.

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 10:24 PM) It's really this simple to me. Sale is as good as Kershaw and Grienke in my opinion. So I would expect him to post similar numbers to those guys if he pitched in the NL. Put Sale on the Dodgers today and those are the numbers I would expect from him. Do you disagree? Yes, on the grounds that Sale isn't Kershaw. Everyone who isn't a Sox fan will tell you the same. Sale is better than Greinke historically. Greinke is having an extremely lucky season. Put Sale's number at slightly better than Zack's number last year, 2.30 -2.40 ERA, sure. That would make it half a run better than Chris's career ERA.

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 10:07 PM) Bottom line, NL = NBA Eastern Conference, AL = NBA Western Conference. I believe Sale would absolutely dominate in the NL and I have yet to see factual evidence provided in this thread that would change my mind. Sure you can call the statistics that I cited as insignificant due to sample size but what statistics do you have that would prove this small sample size should be completely disregarded? You can believe whatever you want, but you will have a hard time convincing many other people. You also haven't put out any strong arguments on why Sale would be 1 run better than he currently is. There are plenty of points listed out for you in this thread already, but you chose to ignore them, Someone already mentioned that batters will make adjustments to him as they face him more, I also mentioned that pitchers won't do that much better (maybe for a short stretch, but certainly not a fully season or across seasons) even if they switched leagues. Many times, they do slightly better or they could even do worst. See Shields and Scherzer as the latest example.

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 09:52 PM) see that's the thing it's not just the DH factor. yes, that's part of it but as a league the NL has FAR worse hitters (and pitchers) than the AL. See edit in my earlier comment.

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 09:28 PM) Out of Grienke's 7.5 seasons pitching in the AL, he only had one season in which his ERA was lower than Sale's CAREER ERA. Yet he has an ERA of 1.61 and WHIP of 0.85 pitching in the NL this season. I fail to understand how Sale with a sub-2 ERA while pitching in the NL is far fetched. Sale has a CAREER ERA of 2.85 and his highest over a full season is 3.07. How is that inconsistent? Sure he has some bad starts here and there but everyone does. I would venture to say he'd have far less of those bad starts pitching in the NL. That's comparing apples to oranges, there are so many factors that played in Greinke's season so far, 1 being this is his contract year, the other being that he's been extremely lucky. He currently has the 2nd lowest BABIP in the league at .234, for comparisons sake his career BABIP is .300. Sale is at .290 career wise FYI. If you were wondering why Greinke became so good this year, look no further. You are also conveniently leaving out the thousands of other occasions where pitchers switched leagues but didn't see his ERA dropped significantly. Two reason examples, James Shield actually had his ERA risen even though he now pitches in a pitchers heaven. Max Scherzer is putting up identical ERA and FIP as he did two years ago when he pitched in the hitter friendly Comerica. Sale will get better in the NL, but he won't shave 1 full run off his ERA. Just because he's facing a pitcher instead of a DH or that you are trying to extrapolate a 91 inning career sample size is not a convincing argument.

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 09:34 AM) Kershaw has done it in each of the prior two seasons and has a good chance of doing it again this season. In my opinion, Sale is just as good as Kershaw so I certainly can assume he'd replicate Kershaws numbers if he pitched in the NL. Sale's career statistics against the NL even if they only amount to ~half a seasons worth further support this argument. At their best, Sale and Kershaw are 1A and 1B, but Sale goes through the motion and gets hit hard every now and then. Kershaw is the perfect model for consistency and rarely gets himself a bad start. So even if Sale moves to NL, he will still run into those bad starts. He will be better than a 3.20 ERA, but won't be Kershaw good. And for that reason I will agree with LittleHurt, assuming a sub 2.00 ERA is a bit far-fetched.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 01:16 PM) Repeat of last night...................I am all for trading Q this winter, team has not won jack with him. Team is now going through the motions living for the 15th and 30th. He's fine as a number 3 starter. But if you are expecting him to be a number 2 on your team, then your rotation isn't a playoff caliber one.

Hard to believe that Leury is only 24, actually a few months younger than Micah.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 25, 2015 -> 01:04 PM) Charlotte- Johnson Birmingham- TBA Winston Salem- Dykstra Kannapolis- Martinez Great Falls- Banks AZL- TBA DSL is off today. http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?s...mp;ymd=20150825 DSL season is over. Sox didn't make playoffs. i'm guessing they're gonna keep Micah down in AZL until Sept 1st and recall him back up here.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 23, 2015 -> 08:22 PM) Rollins putting on an amazing performance. Cena no selling a f***ing frog splash are you serious Holy s*** didn't see that finish coming at all. Rollins carried that match.

Rollins' run ends tonight, Super Cena ain't losing this one.