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That is pretty impressive.

And Soria to the Sox too...

Avilan is a lefty too. Can't really complain. Sox need pen help and he could be a flip candidate at the deadline.

I might have some interest in this.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 26, 2017 -> 10:08 AM) I don't really want to trade any of our prospects yet. Let's revisit this in a year if he is still with Miami. This. They're both great players, but it's a bit premature to go out and start trading away assets before you even know what you have in house. Give the kids another year and re-evaluate next offseason when the big FA's are available.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 21, 2017 -> 09:55 PM) I'm sure the debt was discussed. But did it necessarily include "we are trading Stanton" "we are trading Ozuna" Or was it more "we are going to follow the White Sox/Houston/Cubs model and trade assets for a rebuild. I don't see how they are doing anything different than other teams like the White sox. Their commodities are different due to the contracts and the fans aren't tolerating it like the sox fans. The returns are a night and day difference though. This board would have erupted and called for Hahn's head if the Sox got returns like that for Sale, Eaton, and Q. But like you said, the contracts have really left the Marlins is a tough position.

How good of friends were Castillo and Machado? Maybe that plays a part with being able to convince a player about the "Sox culture."

This is definitely interesting to say the least. Can't image the Orioles have much leverage here.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 10, 2017 -> 04:51 PM) Wasn't it Ozzie who messed this up for us? I thought it had leaked early which is what allowed the Tigers to get involved. Don't remember Ozzie being involved though.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 09:58 PM) We should go after Rondon. Live arm, big(ish) name. Definitely a turnaround candidate that could fetch something Totally agree. I wouldn't mind them taking a look at Fiers either. He had a pretty awful year last year, but maybe Coop could get him back to his 2015 form.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 22, 2017 -> 07:30 AM) Machado's agent is Dan Lozano. He's the agent that got Pujols that insane contract with LAA. Scary to think about. Pujols was 32 when he signed that deal. Machado is going to be only 25...

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 06:08 PM) I agree 100%. They likely took most money the first time. I would expect the same here. And with some teams prepping to go after Ohtani, they'd be stupid to not wait until after he has chosen a team. The losers of the Ohtani sweepstakes are going to be the winners here. I can't see the Sox having any chance, other than maybe one of the lower tiered guys.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 13, 2017 -> 03:51 PM) FutureSox‏ @FutureSox 1h1 hour ago The #WhiteSox re-signed INF Gerson Montilla to a MiLB deal, per @BaseballAmerica I'll never understand why the Sox always bring back the guy that didn't play in over a year. Even as MiLB filler, it makes no sense.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 11, 2017 -> 03:00 PM) Sounds like the cubs are going to take a shot at Ohtani. http://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/cubs/how-...ttack-offseason He really has National League written all over him. He's be a good fit there too. Makes sense, but they seem to be connected to everyone nowadays.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 5, 2017 -> 08:10 PM) That monetary value probably isn't far off though. I'd say, value wise, he's fairly comparable to Wil Myers, who just signed an extension that pays him $20 million per season after he passes his would be arbitration eligible seasons. Myers could certainly improve off that, but let that contract be a warning to those advocating an Avisail extension. I'd actually argue that Myers is more valuable to a team than Avi. While he doesn't have the high BA, he a 20/20 player and has very good plate discipline. All of Avi's value lies in his bat. If he fails to hit, he offers very little value. That high BABIP stands out to me.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Nov 3, 2017 -> 09:04 PM) Guess they’ve seen enough of Gillaspie I was thinking Danny Hayes.

Apparently he struggled all last season with a hurt finger. Probably explains the lack of power.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 2, 2017 -> 04:06 PM) Mildly surprised that Putnam is back after TJS. He underwent surgery at the end of June, so I would imagine he is going to miss a significant portion of the season. Just because they reinstated him doesn't mean he's going to stick through the offseason. I believe it's standard practice to reinstate players from the D.L. when the season officially comes to a close. I still wouldn't be surprised to see him non-tendered at some point.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Oct 26, 2017 -> 06:45 PM) Not really, if Jeter really is under a mandate to get payroll down to $90ishMM. DD certainly has the balls to pull off a trade like that. Stanton and Ozuna?? I'll take those two. It came from one of the Boston papers, by the way. Absolutely, could you imagine an OF or Stanton, Betts, and Ozuna? That's disgusting.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Oct 26, 2017 -> 06:35 PM) In that one partial year with White Sox, Erstad was one of the worst centerfielders I have ever seen. I still think Mackowiak holds that title. Why the Sox ever though he could play there is beyond me.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 24, 2017 -> 08:40 PM) Pretty bad example. People hated the Myers deal. Not because of devenski maybe, but still. Looking at it from strictly a player-performance perspective (exclude the fact Myers is a dirtbag) the Sox gave up one hell of a future relief option for a rental that did jack for them. QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 24, 2017 -> 08:18 PM) There are times you trade away prospects who are toolsheds, and 9 times out of 10 those guys flare out almost immediately. Not having Tatis sucks, but it is what it is. See "Jon Singleton."

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 17, 2017 -> 03:56 PM) If it involves trading any assets, I am going to say no. And any team would be stupid to not ask the Sox to overpay. Hahn stood firm, and GM's are going to return the favor. I'd take a hard pass on Grandal. Let Narvaez and Smith continue to split time or sign a FA and hope to catch catch lightning in a bottle for the deadline.

I have a BA subscription, but I didn't think it really offered too much of what most of us already have a good feel for. For anyone interested, the best late round pick award went to Yurchak.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 1, 2017 -> 10:33 PM) In retrospect you can say that. Floyd was somewhat of a whipping boy here on Soxtalk but maybe I am only remembering later in his career. I seem to recall some " deer in the headlights" comparisons with him. Perhaps if he was better looking .... I'll be the first to admit I was a hard on Floyd. He got a lot of undeserved criticism thrown his way.