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QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Apr 5, 2017 -> 02:46 PM) Wasn't there quite a bit of talk about the Sox trading for this guy several years ago? I don't remember the specifics, but I feel like his name came up often. I believe you are right. Wish I could remember for who though. Was it Dye?

It'll be really pathetic if the Sox can't make this work if true, haha.

QUOTE (Soha @ Mar 25, 2017 -> 03:58 PM) The Sox got Giolito in part because word was all around baseball that the Nats were down on Giolito. That his stock is down from it's peak was part of the trade - not a sudden tough break for the White Sox. To me Lopez is the biggest piece of the deal, but I still feel really good about Giolito and his future. It might take a few years. Maybe he won't be a #1. Heck maybe he'll end up in the pen. That doesn't mean he won't be darn good someday. Everyone also seems to forget about Dunning. The Sox were very high on him and were looking at him for the second round before the Nets took him. If Lopez turns into a #2-3, Dunning a #5, and Giolito a high-leverage reliever, I don't see how people can't call that a win.

QUOTE (Donaldo @ Mar 23, 2017 -> 08:10 PM) His injury history is a bit worrisome. After reading that article, I have zero expectations for him to stick - even as a 4th OF'er. Guy is literally made of glass. Had no idea he had that foot issue a few years ago.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Mar 23, 2017 -> 09:30 PM) By the fans he probably has been. But the Sox haven't re-assigned him yet, so they're looking at him. I wonder if he has options issues - Davidson too. Delmonico doesn't have any option issues, so I doubt that's the issue. Personally, I'd like to see Delmonico get some more work in at Charlotte. He didn't exactly light Charlotte up like he did in Birmingham. Plus there's no harm in keeping Davidson around for a month or two because of his option situation. It's nice to see some promise in his bat - too bad he doesn't have a position.

Shame this guy just can't stay healthy. Talk about tough break after tough break.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 12, 2017 -> 07:48 PM) I doubt tourists go. Way more to do in Vegas. Plus Vegas and Nevada in general are a highly transient locations. I don't know many people that abandon their childhood allegiances if they move to a different state to start rooting for a hometown team. At least I wouldn't.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 09:57 AM) Very bored at work in my cubicle. Figured it would be fun. I'll get this posted and come back and edit my roster throughout the day haha Catchers: Narvaez, Soto Infield: Abreu, Saladino, Frazier, Anderson, Sanchez (out of options), L. Garcia (also serves as OF depth) Outfield: Cabrera, Tilson (assuming healthy), A. Garcia, Bourjos, Asche (chunk of DH at bats against righties, out of options, short leash if Davidson, Hayes, or Delmonico is hitting) Vs RHP: 1. Anderson SS 2. Tilson CF 3. Abreu 1B 4. Cabrera LF 5. Frazier 3B 6. Garcia RF 7. Asche DH (short leash as explained above) 8. Saladino 2B 9. Narvaez C Vs LHP: 1. Anderson SS 2. Tilson CF 3. Abreu 1B 4. Cabrera LF 5. Frazier 3B 6. Garcia DH 7. Soto C 8. Saladino 2B 9. Bourjos RF Starting Rotation: Quintana (assuming not dealt by OD) Rodon (assuming he is healthy, otherwise Covey or Beck in rotation) Gonzalez Holland Shields Bullpen: LR Covey/Beck (depending on Rodon health) MR Soto/Luebke (second lefty) MR Petricka MR Putnam SU Jennings SU Jones CL Robertson I wanted to keep Ynoa on this staff, but I figured I would keep a long-reliever on here. Not sure if he has options or not. Covey is a Rule-5 guy so unless he starts in rotation due to someone being hurt, I have him in pen. Soto I have as a second lefty. Ynoa is out of options. Soto (RP) still has options. That might change the way that plays out.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 7, 2017 -> 01:59 PM) Scott Merkin‏Verified account @scottmerkin 9m9 minutes ago Both Holland and Kopech pitched on the Minor League back fields at Camelback Ranch with today's White Sox team off-day. Holland worked FB location in the first, FB and changeup in the second and mix of pitches in the third. Holland was up and down 4 times. Threw 50 pitches. Worked with Narvaez Kopech worked on "fastball command and feel for changeup," per Cooper Kopech was up and down three teams, throwing 45 pitches. Was paired with Alfredo Gonzalez since they likely will be paired in Minors. I guess that means the Sox are putting Kopeck at Birmingham? I thought they'd at least have him start the year with the Dash.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 02:27 PM) No. Buehrle and PK are the only recent Sox whose #'s I think are worthy of retirement. Sale was a great pitcher while here, but the club didn't win squat with him here and 7 years isn't long enough unless you are winning cy youngs while leading team to consistent post-season runs, etc. I would agree. PK and Buehrle were main cogs in a WS win and spent almost their entire careers on the Southside. Sale was one of my favorite players but no way would I retire his number.

The Nats would be stupid to try to move Severino before at least trying to move Norris. If a deal is going to happen, then the Sox have to hope that there are zero takers willing to give up another arm for Norris.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 17, 2017 -> 02:26 PM) Also, gotta factor in that they're going to lose some depth due to the WBC so there will be extra playing time out there. This. The Sox now have Matzek, Volstad, Holmberg, Giolito, Lopez, Fulmer, and Danish to fill out Charlotte. No way some of those guys are kept around to start the season.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Feb 15, 2017 -> 03:17 PM) my cousin got Rollins quotes about us: https://twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/...937792535957504 Thanks for sharing, that was interesting. It definitely seems like Duke, Sale, and Eaton were moved for more than just kick-starting a rebuild.

I'd happy to take a shot at it, I just need a vector of the SoxTalk logo.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 12, 2017 -> 08:52 PM) Sounds like an Astros trade is unlikely based on this tweet from MLB Network Radio: Never have I ever wished as hard as I am right now the Astros implode to start the year. Ridiculous...

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Feb 12, 2017 -> 04:03 PM) Also the Red Sox and White Sox situations are very different. The Red Sox called up both but not to play what had been their primary position. Because J. Bradley is elite in CF, Benintendi ended up in LF. Even if Bradley got moved last winter, Betts is considered a better CF than Benintendi so he still would have played a corner. Moncada was forced to move to 3rd. Maybe that was disruptive and contributed to his dismal performance. But if either came to the White Sox they would have been able to play their primary positiom. Certainly with talent being close, a good CF is more valuable than a 2b. I agree w many that Benintendi has a lower ceiling but Moncada still needs work offensively and defensively. Hopefully being back at 2B next week will have a positive impact on his bat and his head. Abreu will have a huge impact on Moncada as well. It'll be great to have the two of them working together in ST.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 08:20 PM) Show is on MLBTV right now. Collins #56 Kopech #32 Rey Lopez #31 giolito #25 moncada #2 Nice to see Collins getting some love.

Dioner Navarro is still available...

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 05:27 PM) I didn't say their rebuild is not legit. But it is very strange that they were able to trade their 2 "clubhouse problems" pretty quickly but were not able to move any of the other 23 players on their roster. I think a lot of fans( just look at this thread) expected more trades before spring training . But it looks like the FO may have a much longer timeline for the rebuild than the fans in order to try and keep the product on the field somewhat competitive. That is also a legit rebuild approach. Even though I don't believe that was the motive for dealing Sale and Eaton, I'll agree that it can't be ignored as possibly playing some part in it. But they also both happen to be the most valuable trade chips the Sox had. I think every needs to keep in mind that there really haven't been any trades this offseason like years past (with exception to the Mariners). It's been an extremely slow market. Perhaps the trades of Chapman, Miller, Sale, and Eaton dried it up a lot sooner than everyone was anticipating. The nice thing is that it finally seems like Hahn is steering the ship. KW would have traded Q by now for whatever he could get.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 03:42 PM) The idea is that Soto likely makes the team and will need a spot. They figured right now, as opposed to end of Spring Training after possible injuries, is a better time to sneak someone through waivers. They don't risk losing Smith to a team that needs catching depth. Kind of an odd move right before sprint training. I don't know if I buy this as trying to open a spot for Soto. Seems really foolish to guarantee Soto a position at his age and injury history before ST even begins, unless they did a handshake type of deal. I wouldn't mind Wieters at a 1 yr. deal as a sign and flip candidate, but I think the Sox really want Narvaez to prove what he's got.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 8, 2017 -> 01:47 PM) C. Trent Rosecrans @ctrent Homer Bailey had bone spurs removed from his elbow. Will miss 4-6 weeks, will likely start season on DL Sucks to see a guy get hurt, but I'm not gonna lie... a little part of me really wished he was on the Astros...

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 06:57 PM) From BA on the '17 Astros top 10. Huge jump for Stubbs #10 and Perez moved up do #4. Anyone know when pipeline is going to update the top 100? 1. Francis Martes, rhp 2. Kyle Tucker, of 3. David Paulino, rhp 4. Franklin Perez, rhp 5. A.J. Reed, 1b 6. Forrest Whitley, rhp 7. Teoscar Hernandez, of 8. Yulieski Gurriel, 3b/1b 9. Derek Fisher, of 10. Garrett Stubbs, c baseballamerica.com Astros have 4 guys in the MLB Top 100 Pipeline rankings: 20. Martes 35. Tucker 54. Paulino 84. Whitley After looking at that, I don't think the Sox can expect to get Musgrove + 2 top prospects, but Martes + Tucker would be a good starting point.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 09:45 AM) If you want to learn a little more about the rebuild, you can hear it directly from the horses' mouths. Here are exclusive interviews from SoxFest with both of them. Some of it was high level philosophy, but there are also some deeper detailed questions answered here. Nice! It will be interesting to see if they truly do change their philosophy and stopping rushing guys through the majors.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 2, 2017 -> 04:44 PM) Yeah, I think that supports the choices of Ynoa and Liriano, but not sure what to do with Davidson. Leury Garcia is just not a major league ballplayer in my view and I think he goes to Charlotte or gets traded/claimed. I agreed with the choice of Liriano. I think the Sox give him a shot unless he blows this spring. I still have a gut feeling Davidson sticks as the 25th guy though over Sanchez and Garcia. Obviously there are a plethora of guys that could make the team, especially on the pitching side of things.