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Really starting to like Danish, haha. Gotta love a minor leaguer who supports his parent club.

Wow. Well, there's your new LF and 2 hole hitter.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 03:43 PM) I'll make this argument: Noesi is a starter. He is not a reliever. Look at the evidence. His only other decent year was when he started most of the games. Despite a bullpen in tatters what do the Sox do immediately upon claiming this middle reliever? they put him in the rotation and keep him there. I think it was more along the lines of Cooper knowing how to make Noesi more effective than the Sox saying he needs to be starting because his stats were better.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 06:12 PM) My question is: Is Semien really that valuable? Keep seeing he could be the "center piece" to a deal and I'm sitting over here wondering if I missed something or what... Also just to clarify, Montas is the guy the Sox just got for... Dunn? Isn't he projected more as a late inning guy and not a starter? Montas came from the Red Sox in the Peavy deal. Sox got Sanburn for Dunn.

If the Sox are trading Anderson, they better be receiving Upton back too with an extension in place. Anderson is the only hitting prospect showing signs of development.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:31 AM) Don't think Sox would want another RH bat. If anything, its about CarGo, Dickerson or Blackmon in my opinion. I'd love if the Sox could get Arenado, but I realize the Rockies won't want to trade him.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:25 AM) FWIW, you guys are right. A lot going on. The next week or two will be very active. Rick and Beane have been in talks all week. Dodgers cooled off. Still heavy talks with Reds and Rockies as well. Sweet. Thanks for the update bucket.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:02 AM) I was actually thinking Semien, Hawkins and Beck. Hawkins? That just doesn't seem like the type of player Beane would be interested in. Semien would definitely get his attention though.

If there's any truth to that, I hope the Sox didn't give up too much to get him. I've never really been that big of a Shark fan. Maybe there's a 3-way with the Braves?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 10:01 AM) No one else wanted him, or he wouldn't be at Charlotte. Other teams don't want him at the cost of what the Sox are paying him. There might be other teams willing to sign him and give him a ST invite after he refuses Charlotte and they can get him for cheaper.

Shame to see Carroll go. Hope the Sox try to bring him back on a minor league deal, he's a great feel-good story and one of the more genuine athletes out there.

QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Nov 22, 2014 -> 02:45 PM) Contract, or not, I think it's silly to put Quintana on par with Sale or Trout. There are no metrics that could convince me otherwise. I think their contracts bear that out as well. There is a reason Trout makes what he makes and Quintana makes what he makes. I'm not saying anything bad about Quintana, to me, he's just not as good as those other guys. Hypothetically, I would guess if all 4 were on the FA market, the order in size of contracts offered would be Trout, Sale, Bruce, Quintana. Maybe I am missing your point. I don't think Balta is saying they are on the same level in terms of talent. Sale and Trout are among the 'elite' players. Q is among the 'very good' players. But Q's contract adds a level of financial flexibility that you would not normally be able to get with another player of his skill level. If Q hit free agency, he would make A LOT more than he is making now. That financial flexibility would allow a team to go out and use the money they would have normally had to invest in a player like Q into an additional area of need.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:45 PM) Chris is under contract for 1 less year than Quintana, but he's put up 5.1 and 5.3 fWAR the last 2 years. If you believe Sale will repeat his last year, then Quintana is more valuable than Sale, hands down, but the difference is that Sale missed 4 weeks last year. If Sale was healthy all year last year with no difference in performance, he's a >7 fWAR pitcher, but we haven't seen that from him yet. It seems more likely with him than Quintana but that's where health comes in. But really, a good rule of thumb is...if you say "God no" to any trade proposal involving sale, you should say the exact same thing about Quintana. Sale should outperform Jose but he seems a higher injury risk based on his record, so if you weigh them about the same for trade value, Sale's trade Value and Quintana's trade value should be close enough that they're exchangeable. So, would you trade Sale as the key piece in a deal involving Jay Bruce? Literally there's no deal I can put together with the Reds roster that works, not with Cueto that close to FA. I wouldn't trade Sale as the key piece for Votto, so I wouldn't trade Quintana as the key piece for Votto. Their total value to the franchise is just about that close. The only reason you'd trade either of them is to remove the injury risk, and from the perspective of this thread, if you're worried about injury risk, how confident are you about a guy who struggled with knee injuries last year? This is approaching silly. No one with a lick of sense would trade Sale for a deal with Bruce as the centerpiece, so it's equally silly to trade Quintana for a package around him, let alone Quintana+. Great post.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:41 PM) I refuse to trade for a Padres pitcher unless Petco Park comes with In all fairness, he did pretty well away from Petco last year.

Hmmm... the 40 is full before this signing. I wonder if there is another move in the works, or will the Sox just trim some more dead weight off the roster?

There is no way the Nats are going to trade Strasburg and in order to go after Scherzer. For one, the fans would form a mob. And a 1-2 punch of those two in a rotation is downright nasty. If they are going to shed salary, it's going to be Fister or Zimmermann.

Wow, I like this A LOT.

Sox could certainly do worse. He walks a ton, but he'd have to be a platoon player for sure.

Trading Q for Bruce straight up is just not smart. I like Bruce, but he shouldn't command someone like Q coming off the year he's had (and I do not think Bruce is in decline). Bruce would certainly look nice batting behind Abreu though, talk about an upgrade from the left side of the plate. I still would not give Q up for him though. There has to be more to it than that, like the Sox also receiving a SP in return. Whether that comes from the Reds or a 3rd team is what makes this interesting.

I think I'm more excited that Mitchell was kicked off the 40-Man. He honestly has no business being on it and another team would have to be nuts to claim him.

I don't think he is. I think Montas has a better chance of being the closer-of-the-future then Petricka. And first and formost, I am all for Montas trying to make it to the MLB in a starting role.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 08:08 PM) Because it's much easier to just keep Semien in that platoon role than giving up real talent for Dominguez? Just like it's probably better not to trade two starters for one in Castro unless it's abundantly clear that individual player is a HUGE upgrade at a position. Good point. I guess I don't really envision Semien being at 3B all that much.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 10:09 PM) He isn't even close to hitting breaking pitches of late. For as great of a season as he's had, it's disappointing to see his power completely disappear after the ASB He's probably tiring out and feeling the effects of a 162 game season. I think they play roughly 90 games or so in Cuba and the Sox's 96th game was July 13th.

Why not keep Gillaspie and try trading for Dominguez? He might be easier to get than Castro. That's a R/L platoon I would like to see for the Sox.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 5, 2014 -> 10:31 PM) With me being too lazy to look it up, is he a top prospect or just another guy? First or second rounder? Think he has any hope to stick next year? He's 28 years old, so he's just right-handed competition for Danks. Used to be a pretty decent prospect for Oakland back in the day.