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Looks like it hit right below the knee, maybe on the kneecap?

Also means Hamilton is starting on the IL too. Covey's stay is probably going to be short lived.

He had a great spring. Sox might have gotten a steal claiming him from the Padres.

Speculation was they are trying to move Leon.

I know he was, but how many 36 year old pitchers on 1 year deals command a haul at the deadline? I don't have any expectations with him.

Right move. Guy caught lightning in a bottle at the right time to get a cup of coffee at the big league level. Tough series of events/injuries let other push him out of the way. Such a nice guy, hopefully he gets the opportunity again, though I can't see it being with the Sox.

Realistically, Santana probably has the same trade value Miguel Gonzalez did at the 2017 deadline. Who knows though, with no waiver deadline, we really have no clue how teams will react come July 31st.

We can only hope, but remember - it only took Alex Call to land him. Don't expect much, if anything. If the Sox were in the position to compete, Alonso isn't the worst thing in the world. But for this season, I would much rather have used the DH spot to rotate guys in and out and get consistent day-to-day AB's. Alonso totally disrupts that. I'm even more worried about the vesting option. I don't want to see him on the 2020 roster.

I'm worried about that as well. Fucking Alonso....

Big year for this guy. He needs to show results this year IMO if we're going to count him towards being a key cog in the rebuild.

Exactly. I could be wrong on this explanation, but basically in order to send a player who is on the 40-man roster to the minors, you have to use one of their options. There are a limited amount of times you can do this to a player. Then they have to either make the team, or pass through waivers allowing any of the teams a chance to claim them for themselves. I fully believe Banuelos is here to stay unless he gets shelled. They traded for him, so they clearly saw something in him and he has had a solid spring thus far. I don't think he's going to be the 5th starter, but more likely a long relief option that can go multiple innings when needed; maybe a spot-start here or there (i.e. Hector Santiago). I'd be pretty surprised if we don't see Banuelos and Santana both on the Sox within a few weeks of the regular season.

Banuelos is out of options, and considering he had a solid spring, I doubt he would pass through waivers. Santana may not necessarily be ready to break camp next week and there is no need for a 5th starter immediately.

That's true. And that's where using that analogy begins to fail. MLB teams' ultimate goal does not align with a car salesmans' ultimate goal. MLB teams don't have to make moves for the sake of making moves. Salesman do. Read this hypothetical take and if you can honestly say with 100% certainty you can't see this as being a *possible* timeline of events, then we'll have to agree to disagree. Let's say the Dodgers have zero intent on moving Pederson (this is a team after all that values having depth on the roster). Let's say Hahn approaches them because maybe a new hire (Matt Lisle) who helped attribute to a better 2018 season for Joc (massive improvement to K% compared to career norms) pushed for the Sox to try to buy low on him before another positive season. Maybe the Dodgers were intrigued by the offer, and eventually came to an agreement with Hahn on what they perceived as fair value. Then the supposed deal leaks before the deal can officially agreed on. Multiple teams now approach the Dodgers because they had no idea Pederson was available. Now the Dodgers realize there is a potential market for Pederson. What if the Indians approached them and tried to build a deal around Pederson/Kluber. What if the Marlins tried to land him as part of a Realmuto package. Does Fulmer/Bummer/+ really seem that good now? Those things obviously didn't happen, but now the Dodgers realize they might be able to get more value for a guy if they wait until the trade deadline. Hence, why Hahn was angry it didn't get to the finish line.

When you try to buy a car, do you counter the salesman and say, "let me give you more than that. You're being too one-sided in my favor." ? Why wouldn't he be mad if a deal fell through that he felt ultimately made the Sox a better team? I'd be pretty pissed too if something out of my control prevented me from being able to complete something.

I never said it was a good deal for the Dodgers. Bummer + Fulmer + Laz is nothing to be excited about. It was a bad deal. But you don't think it is possible that the Dodgers might have undervalued Joc, only to come to their senses and realize that they might be acting prematurely regarding his trade value? That's a reasonable scenario if you ask me. In fact, it happened when the Sox dealt Sergio Santos to the Blue Jays. There was even a GM on record saying he had no idea Santos was even available. That was a terribly weak return.

Dodgers aren't allowed to change their mind? Maybe they felt no one met their asking price once multiple teams got involved. It isn't like they had to move him.

Certainly seemed that way. Sounded like they had a deal agreed to in principal, it leaked, then the asking price changed and other teams got involved.

Moncada having a game.

Exactly what I was thinking. Probably put Abreu at 1B, Alonso at DH.

I really wish they'd let Rondon get the majority of AB's at 2B. We already know what Leury and Yolmer provide the Sox.

Not exactly official....

I hope your right, but even so - we’ll be having this discussion again once that 5th starter is needed and someone needs to go. I really want to see Rondon get a chance. I liked what I saw last season.

I expect them to carry 13 pitchers + Eloy. You have to figure Jay and Engel are locks unless a phantom injury appears. So that leaves 2 bench spots for Palka, Garcia, and Rondon. I guess Palka could end up in Charlotte, but would the Sox really do that?

This is gross. Almost makes me think the Sox are going to try to sneak Rondon through waivers and expect to lose him.