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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 11:19 AM) When the Sale happens (pun intended) attendance drops will accelerate. Fans may say that they want a rebuild, but they won't support it. Serious question: How exactly does a fanbase "support" a rebuild? By attending/watching games when the team is bad? The team is already bad, as-is. Whatever base of fans they'd lose to staging and publicly acknowledging a rebuild have already left. The White Sox have literally nothing to lose in a rebuild.

He's 22.

What about Ozzie? Has that ship sailed? Not for or against it, just asking.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Sep 1, 2016 -> 03:12 PM) way back in the olden days it was your first chance ever to see some guys you had maybe heard about. These two are just roster fodder. I don't know why they need another pitcher anyway. They never let Ynoa pitch as is. Had there not been a black hole at SS to start the season, Tim Anderson would be all the news/rage today. But as we all know, he is putting up ROY numbers for the better part of 3 months now. Aside from Anderson and Fulmer, no... there isn't a lot to be excited about on the "fun to watch" guys coming up from the minors.

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Aug 24, 2016 -> 03:48 PM) Smoothie King Center This is pretty atrocious. As someone who frequents Smoothie King, I'd prefer they sponsor the Sox stadium..... Free protein add-in for every blown save!!!

In Ventura's defense, what was he supposed to say? "f*** no." Of course he is gonna say "Yes."

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Aug 11, 2016 -> 05:00 PM) Let's actually make one. We can make a video, it would be hilarious. OK, so we need a mission statement and a bulleted list of things we would do in the first 100 days: - Fire/Trade everyone - ??? - Profit

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 11, 2016 -> 04:52 PM) Alright Soxtalk, we buying this stupid franchise or what? Let's start a gofundme page! Let's do this!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 11, 2016 -> 04:46 PM) So you don't have evidence, you have an opinion, but you want someone else to provide evidence for you? LMAO, come on man. This is like twitter-weaksauce. Didn't JR have a blowup with Bernstein on-air a few years ago? I remember JR saying "You'll never get a bite of this apple again" and then he hung up on them. Bernstein has always had a bone to pick with JR. #shrug A "rebranded" franchise? Cool. But with a new stadium downtown? Sounds dope as f*** to me.

I'm (as a fan) fine with re-signing Morneau to DH next year, if we are settling. If the goal is continued mediocrity, then have at it. Aside from that, I think the offense needs a bigger upgrade, and DH is a spot with a lot more flexibility in regards to who can fill it, than say CF or C.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 02:20 PM) They may be able to work out waiver deals for Melky and Robertson. Shields no chance - he'll sail through and it won't matter. I have much more confidence in Aranaudo pitching well next year than Shields. If Shields clears waivers, then that means he can be traded to any team, and not just the team that claimed him.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 02:52 PM) Why don't we just move Mr. Harrelson out of the box permanently. Since the Sox suck and the FO clearly doesn't want to make things better, I spent my lunch break watching the old archive footage on the MLB youtube channel. Every big Sox moment of the last 10-15 years, Hawk Harrelson ruined with his stupid act.

QUOTE (shipps @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 02:10 PM) I guess maybe I didnt clarify that collectively what has happened in the past few years has been a PR disaster with yesterday just being a small part of that PR disaster. Yesterday alone definitely is something the public would forget about soon enough but everything that has happened over time? Nah I cant forget how messy this has all been. Its not just one guy either, its the whole damn thing. My apologies for using the word "ridiculous". I didn't mean that towards you or other posters. I should have been more clear... what I meant was, the Sox FO/PR know that the average fan isn't going to stop watching because they didn't blow up the team. They'll still get their cable TV money, MLB.tv money, ticket and consession sales, merch licensing... etc. They are catering towards the 99% and not the 1% who see through their bulls*** and complacency with mediocrity. You would think that trading Chris Sale would put off A LOT of fans - but I can't speak to the vibe in Chicago as I live pretty far away. I think if the Sox were competing with a really great team, were a couple games back, gave up.... and then they blew it up (white flag trade anyone?) I think that the fanbase would then respond accordingly.

I can't see how this is a PR disaster. Something to keep in mind is that Soxtalk posters are largely the 1% of the fanbase, in regards to org knowledge (roster, minors, FO, etc). To assume Jimbo McLunchbox is upset because the Sox DIDN'T trade his favorite player for 5 guys he's never heard of... is pretty ridiculous.

MLB app just pushed an alert... JB Shuck sent down. HUGE game changer right there

QUOTE (bulokis @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:29 PM) When is Hahn speaking? He is probably hiding in his executive suite, waiting for Jerry's crack PR team to craft his words for him.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 03:19 PM) We don't know if Hahn is totally gutless, or if the ostrich owner took away his telephone privileges. :lol:

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 03:12 PM) Rick Hahn was sitting by the phone all day long just waiting for the calls that never came. Unfortunately, it wasn't until 2:59 that he noticed the phone was off the hook, but by that point it was already too late.

Its all good guys.... Your official 2016 White Sox Trade Deadline jersey - now available on chisox.com

just gonna leave this here....

15 minutes to the "Here's why we did nothing" RickyGM press conference

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:35 PM) Trying to compete with Sale and Quintana has worked exactly zero times. It's time for something else. That's not the fault of either Sale or Quintana. Gotta score some runs and close out games. Bullpen, defense and noodle bats have hurt the team.

Maybe RickyGM is applying the principle of "Maybe if I don't do anything, people will assume I'm incompetent - instead of screwing up the trades and leaving no doubt!"

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 01:31 PM) 30 minutes, but don't forget about the bonus time where nothing will happen either. Is the bonus time like in Monster Jam, where if the fans yell and scream enough, the driver gets 90 more seconds to try to destroy his truck?

He could opt out if he doesn't want to pitch for the team he is traded to... he is at that point in his career where there are more important things than his salary. He might want legacy (IE: a championship) instead.