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Well every Rick Hahn appearance now is "Whoops I know I said this and we didn't do that...but now here's the goal". He's the master at spin.

Hey just incase you had any doubts that Rick wants to keep pressing home the timeline may go longer...he's mentioned 5+ Years on rebuilds quite often in this podcast so far. Love how the timeline goes from short to 5 years like everyone else to maybe 7 years.

You know for all the crap the McCaskey's have gotten over the years they have gotten one thing right. When there's a large contingency of the fanbase getting tired of losing and pissed they did everything in their power to change the culture of the team. For me it's that effort to get back in that keeps me onboard with all of that losing you can see they are tired of it. For Rick it just seems like another day at the office.

Just for those who don't know what I'm talking about.

The Hahn clip of him ranting about Twitter and then trying to act like he isn't butt hurt about Sox fans not liking their direction was embarrassing.

"In reality he should probably be playing with the White Sox no matter what right now if CBA issues didn't get in the way". Maybe try reading the whole thing next time. We all understand this and no we don't have to like it. But this is why there's probably going to be a lockout.

I think if they can't sign him to an extension or convince him to come back by that time then they have bigger problems on their hands. Stop being dramatic. I never said ruining his development. He is as developed as he's probably going to be in AAA. He's just seal clubbing right now. He's ready for the majors.

You should have should put a *maybe* next to the last part of that. The only thing that's 100 percent true is losing sucks. The rest is up to management.

I never said it is. I understand what they'll gain by leaving him down as far as service time goes. It's part of the CBA and it sucks. But it is what it is. I'm just saying for him it's doing nothing to have him rot in AAA right now. He's not getting challenged there. In reality he should probably be playing with the White Sox no matter what right now if CBA issues didn't get in the way.

I mean it may be for the best as far as financially. But not really for the players. Robert is gaining nothing by sitting in AAA for the rest of the season.

I mean after that disaster last offseason...call me skeptical.

I'm good with not doing anything personally. Especially if the price isn't good enough. Was kind of hoping potentially Hahn would be able to add a bit on some buy low guys but that doesn't seem realistic now.

I mean that much was obvious immediately after Manny signed with the Padres.

Tell Kenny thanks for the info I guess the offers aren't good enough

Why thank you. Odd place to talk about BMW tech in a trade thread but has been amusing lol.

I mean I understood it but I'm not sure what that says about me

All the time

The BMW I6s I've never had issues with. Not a fan of the 4 cylinders in the 3 series though.

If your talking about completely random threads for sure that point is well taken. Even sometimes I roll my eyes at some of the comments in the threads.

You are? Can you stop making trash V8s please?

Your assuming I believe they have no hope which makes the argument stupid. There's always hope. Just because I think our General Manager does more harm than good doesn't mean that eventually someone won't take over that won't turn this team completely around. I've been a Chicago Bears fan all my life. In a short time that team went from a laughing stock with Marc Trestman and Phil Emery to Matt Nagy and Ryan Pace. Is Jerry as quick to pull the trigger as George is for the Bears? Absolutely not. But he'll get there at some point. Until then I'll be along for the ride with the players that are getting sick of losing and are trying hard to win. Excuse me but I just absolutely hate the post police. You want to know what will change in this forum? When the team finally decides it's time to win.I guarantee you it'll do a 180. Give the "look what I'm doing and you'll be fine!" stuff a break. I don't think anyone here needs to be told how to run their life or when to talk about their favorite team.

The problem is when certain poster repeat ad nauseas that Hahn is the worst GM ever and is definitely going to fail this offseason Who has said this? I know your probably referring to me I'm just wondering if your using hyperbole and pulling something out of thin air or if you actually have evidence. If you think this is bad you need to expand your horizons to other teams with even a few years of losing and the fanbase is absolutely furious. I think up until recently this forum has been very tame with the amount of losing this franchise has been doing lately.

I'm just curious to see how much they want to move that staff around. Doesn't seem like they want to do a whole lot of shuffling.

It very well might. Have to wait and see what the reports are after the trade is complete.